Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 20

July 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 20, 2020.

The Twelve (Bible)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 28%23The Twelve (Bible)

Military history of the Confederate States
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:39, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Military history of the Confederate States → American Civil War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_history_of_the_Confederate_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wouldn't this refer to Confederate States Army or Confederate States of America as more specific targets? Not sure which one is best target. Hog Farm Bacon 19:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There was a Confederate States Navy and Confederate States Marine Corps so I would oppose retargetting to the army's article. There is a Category:Military history of the Confederate States of America which has Military forces of the Confederate States as the apparent top-level article, but that's primarily about the structure and organisation rather than a history so I'm not sure it's best. Given that the Confederacy existed only during the civil war, the civil war is its entire military history, so I'm leaning keep but I'll ping the MilHist project for input. Thryduulf (talk) 19:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep there is no better target until Military history of the Confederate States is written. A worthy undertaking. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as PM says, the military history of the Confederate States is the Civil War-- though this article could probably be written. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:44, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Conservative Rebellion
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:39, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Conservative Rebellion → American Civil War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conservative_Rebellion&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I've never heard this name used for the topic, and a Google search mostly brings up a 2015 political theory book and content about Barry Goldwater in the 1960s. Hog Farm Bacon 19:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete too vague to be useful redirect or dab. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. My first thought was a back-bench rebellion of Conservative MPs in the House of Commons, but there's nothing in that that I think would be suitable for a dab page entry - and obviously there have been many of them over the years, and I presume that similar has happened in other countries too in addition to other meanings. Thryduulf (talk) 20:41, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and consensus for all these "what caused the civil war" and "how the civil war started" redirects back in 2015. Which conservative (itself dependent on the culture) rebellion? Also, we don't have Liberal Rebellion or Libertarian Rebellion or even Moderate Rebellion. Regards, SONIC  678  23:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. This and similar terms are routinely used in mainstream UK newspapers in relation to the Conservative Party (UK). See e.g. the opening paragraph of this article in The Guardian from March 2020. Narky Blert (talk) 07:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect is ambiguous and may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:RW
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Bon viveur
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 03:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Bon viveur → Johnnie Cradock (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bon_viveur&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to bon vivant. Soft redirect to Wiktionary. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 08:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The nomination has no rationale and seems undecided about what it wants to do. Johnnie Cradock is a famous personality in the UK who wrote for many years in the Daily Telegraph, which is a famous newspaper.  This was their nom-de-plume, as the article says, and so it's a valid redirect. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget The column was written jointly by Johnnie Craddock and Fanny Craddock so WP:XY is in play. It's also used as a descriptive term for a great many people. List of pseudo-French words adapted to English is the most helpful target I've found on Wikipedia and a link could easily be added there to the Craddocks. Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft retarget per nom. See e.g. this definition in Collins Dictionary, this one in Macmillan Dictionary, this one in Merriam-Webster, and this one in Lexico. The fact that Johnnie Cradock used it as a non-de-plume doesn't give him exclusive rights over a commonplace French expression; anymore than the noms-de-plume "corno di bassetto" and "Cassandra" gave George Bernard Shaw and William Connor rights over those names.
 * Johnnie may be best known in UK for his closing words in one of his wife's live TV cookery programmes, "And I hope all your doughnuts turn out like Fanny's". This may be even funnier in British English than in American. Narky Blert (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

This redirect is currently broken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindler%27s_Ark as a description of Oskar Schindler. UK celebrities aside, I think we're missing the bigger picture here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:A080:C500:D8F6:A316:EA2:5C4E (talk) 06:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion at Articles for deletion/Bon vivant may have some bearing on this one, and vice-versa. Cnilep (talk) 06:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not a common term in English. Wiktionary does not seem like a good target. --BDD (talk) 19:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
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🍜
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to 🍜. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:03, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * 🍜 → Bowl (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=🍜&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-07-03&end=2016-08-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=🍜 stats])     [ Closure:  ]

According to emojipedia, this emoji is "A bowl of steaming-hot food. Depicted as Japanese ramen (noodles in broth) with chopsticks on most platforms, though it can represent a warm meal more generally." So, I do not know what should be the apprropriate redirect for this emoji. Neel.arunabh (talk) 17:56, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You left a link to the wrong entry. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:03, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Redirect to ramen This seems like the more likely meaning of this. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:03, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to ramen. This seems like a more appropriate target. Captain Galaxy (talk) 20:05, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't retarget to Ramen This character is "U+1F35C STEAMING BOWL" so "bowl" is a bit broader than the meaning but "Ramen" is very significantly narrower and so will be misleading or incorrect in at least some cases - depictions vary between systems, can be ambiguous and can change over time so we should not pay much attention to that. If we have nothing that more closely matches "Steaming bowl (of food)" than "bowl" then keeping it as is is the best course of action. Thryduulf (talk) 22:45, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs, the article on the Unicode block, which at least tells the user the name of this character if they mouse-over it in the table. Most likely the reader is not trying to find information on steam or bowls or whatnot; they are trying to find what the character itself is. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a good suggestion and not unlikely the best. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem with redirecting to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs is that in that article, clicking on each character will take you to the redirected page. So, redirecting to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs will result in a self-redirect in that page. Neel.arunabh (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Characters that are unlikely to get a useful encyclopedic description in any other article really shouldn't be linked like that from articles in the first place; they should either be unlinked, or linked to Wiktionary as is done at e.g. CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B. (wikt:🍜 is a lot more informative than any coverage we're ever going to have in Wikipedia). 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirects which take you back to the page you started from should be removed per WP:SELFRED unless they're tagged R with possibilities. Narky Blert (talk) 15:51, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!</b> 02:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: relist to give the soft redirect suggestion a wider hearing
 * Soft redirect to wikt:🍜. I had no idea that Wiktionary had entries for emojis, but this seems like the most informative target; it tells the reader much more than Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs does. The emoji seems too ambiguous to be a useful redirect to either ramen or bowl. Spicy (talk) 07:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd also be fine with this. Far better than pointing to some vaguely related article about one of the things pictured in the emoji. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:44, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to wikt:🍜 per Spicy. In the odd scenario where a user searches for this, finding it in that massive page will be frustrating to the searcher.  It started hurting my eyes trying to find it in there. -2pou (talk) 19:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to 🍜. The Wiktionary entry provides more information about the symbol than the other proposed targets. Not a very active user (talk) 05:46, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to 🍜 per above. the ultraUsurper 10:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Conservative Hinduism
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 26%23Conservative Hinduism

Third Party Transfer Program
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . The redirect is now appropriate per Gleeanon's changes signed,Rosguill talk 01:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Third Party Transfer Program → New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Third_Party_Transfer_Program&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Third-Party Transfer → New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Third-Party_Transfer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. An internet search would suggest that it may be independently notable. Delete to promote article creation, unless a justification can be provided for the current redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 18:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. Target article is woefully underdeveloped but I suppose we could wedge in some content to justify it. It’s clearly where it should be housed until it gets its own article.✅Gleeanon409 (talk) 20:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Beau Walker (Celebrity)
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Battle of Jamrod
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn  . (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 17:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Battle of Jamrod → Battle of Jamrud (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Jamrod&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Considering Jamrod doesn't exist and third party search engines seem to not have any items regarding this misspelling, I'd say delete as an unlikely misspelling to reduce searchbar clutter and improve its usefulness. Steel1943 (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: A Google search shows a fair number of sources using "Battle of Jamrod". Jamrod seems to be an alternate transliteration of the Urdu جمرود. Jamrūd is also common. I image the vowel does not have an exact Latin equivalent. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Would you consider that enough rationale to create Jamrod as a redirect towards Jamrud? If so, go ahead and create it, and I'll withdraw this as an apparently failed attempt at a thorough WP:BEFORE search before nominating this. Steel1943  (talk) 16:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I did that. But I note that there is a link to Jamrod in user:The Anome/Villages in Maruf District, Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. Maruf District (معروف; also:Ma'ruf, Maroof) is far away from this Jamrud / Jamrod. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:09, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The link is in a user subpage, so I wouldn't put too much weight into the link's existence. Either way, I'll get this nomination withdrawn. Steel1943  (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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American sivil war
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * American sivil war → American Civil War (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_sivil_war&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling, considering that Sivil war and Sivil War don't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Sivil is a misspelling --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We do not konvert every single "c" to "k" or "s". --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 18:17, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. This redirect is just cilly. Narky Blert (talk) 18:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 18
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per G3 by . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 18 → Template:Stockholm Green Line T18 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Stockholm_Tunnel_Rail_Line_18&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Sock puppet wrongly named "Template:Stockholm Tunnel Rail Line 18" <b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:28, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Thanks for helping to clear up the debris left by that sock puppet. Knuthove (talk) 22:09, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment :Hi Knuthove it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, so I have requested speedy deletion. This should be the last "Tunnel Rail" to be deleted. Regards --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  09:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
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Dhamer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dhamer → Jeffrey Dahmer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhamer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As well as being a possible misspelling of "Dahmer" (Jeffrey Dahmer and Dahmer (disambiguation), it is also a possible misspelling of any of the entries at Dhamar. This redirect is therefore ambiguous and may cause confusion: Delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There's also possible confusion with Dhameri, and there are mentions of John Dhamer in Jaden (wrestler) and of Dhamer Gaan in Thakurgaon District. Let the search tool do its job. Narky Blert (talk) 14:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Jeffrey Windham
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Jeffrey Windham → Kanchō (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeffrey_Windham&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This person is not mentioned in the target article. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 14:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b>  @  15:34, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Portrait mode
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 27%23Portrait mode

Dragonship Endeavour
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Crew Dragon Endeavour. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dragonship Endeavour → SpaceX Dragon 2 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dragonship_Endeavour&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Crew Dragon Endeavour. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 11:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget Looks good to me. I have seen this slang all over the Internet. Grey Wanderer (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 20:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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SpaceX In-Flight Abort Test
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Dragon One
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 27%23Dragon One

SpaceX Cargo Dragon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Cargo Dragon. signed,Rosguill talk 01:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * SpaceX Cargo Dragon → SpaceX Dragon (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SpaceX_Cargo_Dragon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous. Could also mean the cargo variant of. Retarget to Cargo Dragon. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 11:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab page per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Dragon 1
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History of Venus
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Spelling flame
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Troll Dad
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Troll Dad → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Troll_Dad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target page contains no information about "Troll dads". Not a very active user (talk) 09:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. There are no uses of "Troll Dad" in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Coolface
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Coolface → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coolface&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Coolface" is mentioned nowhere in Wikipedia. Not a very active user (talk) 09:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is the sole mention of Coolface in WP. Narky Blert (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:43, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no use of this exact phrase in enwiki 😎. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:54, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Trolling Trolls Trolling
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Trolling Trolls Trolling → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trolling_Trolls_Trolling&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term. I can't see why anybody would type this to the search bar, when the much shorter "Trolling" already takes the reader to the Internet troll article. Not a very active user (talk) 09:05, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as not used neologism phrase. Not like "whack-a-troll" AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned in this or an uncapitalised form. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:56, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Driveby Trolling
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:35, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Driveby Trolling → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Driveby_Trolling&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Driveby trolling is mentioned nowhere in Wikipedia. Not a very active user (talk) 08:37, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:43, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned in this or an uncapitalised form. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:57, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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DFTT
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect to wiktionary  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:34, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * DFTT → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DFTT&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The current target of this redirect provides no information about what "DFTT" means. "DFTT" is mentioned at New Zealand Air Training Corps, where it says that "DFTT" stands for "Dry Firing Training Test", and in Wiktionary at DFTT, which claims that it is an initialism of "don't feed the troll". So should this redirect be retargetted to New Zealand Air Training Corps or soft redirected to DFTT? Not a very active user (talk) 08:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Given we have WP:DFTT with almost a thousand links, I think it's useful to be able to look up what DFTT means and have a reasonable/easy way to find that meaning. Soft-redirect to wikt sounds reasonable. DMacks (talk) 09:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redreict per DMacks. A self-referential hatnote can be added to WP:DFTT on the soft the redirect page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect' and we should also implement Thryduulf's suggestion. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:22, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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THOMAS BYRNE EDSALL
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 27%23THOMAS BYRNE EDSALL

YHBTYHLHAND
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * YHBTYHLHAND → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=YHBTYHLHAND&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * YHBT YHL HAND → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=YHBT_YHL_HAND&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"YHBT YHL HAND" stands for "You have been trolled. You have lost. Have a nice day." While "YHBT YHL HAND" is mentioned at YHBT, the phrase appears nowhere in Wikipedia. Not a very active user (talk) 05:57, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, noting that YHBT is a redirect to Flaming (Internet). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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AOLamer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * AOLamer → Internet troll (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AOLamer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term "AOLamer" is not mentioned at the target, or anywhere in Wikipedia. Not a very active user (talk) 05:40, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - No mention in target article. It is a real term, but not notable enough to have a redirect or an article. Kori das 📣 05:59, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to wiktionary, a definition could be built out of this just the way it is, with just a few headers, and removing the word "redirect" -- 70.51.44.93 (talk) 02:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable enough for inclusion in enwiki. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
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Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs → Calvin and Hobbes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolate_Frosted_Sugar_Bombs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, or anywhere else. It's a fictional brand of cereal that doesn't need to be mentioned anywhere. Hog Farm Bacon 03:51, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:44, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Safari Al
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Safari Al → Calvin and Hobbes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Safari_Al&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't seem to be mentioned in the target article. I've read this comic strip, and I honestly have no memory whatsoever of what this is supposed to be. The only mention of this on enwiki is at Milo (musician) in the sentence "In June 2014, Ferreira moved with his friends Nedarb Nagrom and Safari Al to Los Angeles to be with his label and collective Hellfyre club". Delete, as no good target. Hog Farm Bacon 03:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It was one of Calvin's imagined characters, but only used in one strip. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 20:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Zqfmgb
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Zqfmgb → Calvin and Hobbes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zqfmgb&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, or anywhere else on enwiki. It's a word one of the characters tries to play in a Scrabble game in one panel of one strip, this is far beyond the scope of Wikipedia to mention. Hog Farm Bacon 03:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Though I'm listed as the creator, there's some deleted history. This redirect dates back to July 2008, originally as a redirect to Scrabble, and was retargeted to Calvin and Hobbes in December 2009; though that is an especially hilarious strip (I think it's technically in 2 panels from that day, but I digress), neither article has ever contained it. In January 2018 it was improperly deleted per R3, but when I recreated it I didn't bother undeleting since 2 of the 5 deleted revisions were low-level vandalism. I have no opinion on whether or not to keep it. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 04:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Without a mention someone looking up this will just be left confused. Thryduulf (talk) 11:03, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Zok death sloop
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Zok death sloop → Calvin and Hobbes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zok_death_sloop&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor element mentioned a handful of times in a comic strip. Given that there is no content about Zok death sloops on enwiki, this should be deleted. Hog Farm Bacon 03:44, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Duane Barry(The X-Files)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 01:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Duane Barry(The X-Files)">Duane Barry(The X-Files) → Duane Barry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duane_Barry(The_X-Files)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB (missing space). Steel1943 (talk) 02:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, the correctly formatted Duane Barry (The X-Files) exists. Given that, this one looks like search bar clutter. Regards, SONIC  678  04:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Unnecessary clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 11:37, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. While is a it seems that the original page at its new location was deleted to make way for the move of the article (which has since been moved again) so there isn't any need to keep this for attribution purposes. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone. No need to keep it. The moves are still in the real article history. -2pou (talk) 14:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, --<b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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