Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 19

June 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 19, 2020.

English royal family
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 29%23English royal family

Reparations Agreement
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Reparation. signed,Rosguill talk 20:00, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Reparations Agreement → War reparations (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reparations_Agreement&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:PRIMARY topic of this is the article currently located at "Reparations Agreement between Israel and the Federal Republic of Germany", as you can tell by searching Google Books. buidhe 12:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as-is . Just about every war-ending treaty contains a reparations agreement. There is no reason to think that if a reader types those two words with a capital 'A' they are looking for any specific one. See also Reparations Agreement Between Japan and the Republic of the Philippines (1956) and Reparations Agreement Between Japan and the Republic of Vietnam (1959) in List of treaties. Narky Blert (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep . Reparations Agreement is a broader subject area than the one case among others of the agreement between Israel and Germany. Redirecting it to this specific agreement erroneously implies it is the only reparations agreement ever -- clearly not the case, and as per Narky Blert's examples above. --Chefallen (talk) 15:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment If it's not the primary topic why are the first 10+ results on Google search dealing with the specific reparations agreement? buidhe 15:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * A large number of results in a search for the term “Reparations Agreement” in reference to the agreement between Israel and Germany does not negate the existence of other reparations agreements from which it needs to be distinguished.
 * Furthermore, and of course, it not possible to check every instance, but it is reasonable to assume that the shorthand “Reparations Agreement” is used in articles and books multiple times once the context is established that this refers to the Reparations Agreement between Israel and Germany. --Chefallen (talk) 17:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:PTOPICs are not decided on the basis of top Google hits. If they were, the PTOPIC for apple would be Apple, Inc.. Narky Blert (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Correction, they are not solely decided on the basis of Google hits, but prominence in search engine results is one factor that is considered when determining the primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 21:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep at its current target per Narky Blert, it's a general term with no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and could refer to just about any repatriations agreement. Regards, SONIC  678  21:26, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Unsure. My first thought when I saw this was that this likely refers to slavery reparations. I also did a search within Wikipedia and found Armenian Genocide reparations. Almost all reparations involve some sort of formal agreement. Maybe we should redirect it to the disambiguation page Reparation?&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 17:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Reparation per Mr. Guye. That dab contains a link to the Israel-West Germany agreement, as well as the war reparations article. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 04:12, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:59, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to disambiguation page as suggested above. --Micky (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget → Reparation. This is an ambiguous term that could target most of the entries on the dab page.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 11:21, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB page Reparation (changing !vote). Narky Blert (talk) 05:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Reparation per Paine Ellsworth et al. (!vote change) --Chefallen (talk) 23:19, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Reparation (changing my !vote) per above, which seems like a more suitable target than the current one. Regards, SONIC  678  14:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Health care desert
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 1%23Health care desert

Patriarch of Rome
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 26%23Patriarch of Rome

DJ Camper
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * DJ Camper → Record producer (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DJ_Camper&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not aware of artists being redirected to topic pages like this. The redirect serves no purpose. ≫ Lil- Unique1 -{  Talk  }- 15:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Is the first part of this nomination a piece from a different nomination? Anyway, for this one, I vote delete because the artist is not mentioned at the target. --Micky (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * DJ Camper refers to Darhyl Camper Jr.; American record producer, songwriter and musician according to | Genius. He might be notable enough for his own article, so I'll say delete per WP:REDLINK policies. Captain Galaxy (talk) 21:05, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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Alan Lindquest
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 26%23Alan Lindquest

Continuous linear functional
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 26%23Continuous linear functional

Separation policy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 26%23Separation policy

Jim A. Costa
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Jim A. Costa → Jim Acosta (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_A._Costa&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect created by a blocked user called Composemi. Also, Jim Acosta's full name is Abilio James Acosta. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:22, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ridiculous. Narky Blert (talk) 11:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Nobody's making a typo like this... --Xannir (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Micky (talk) 22:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delte. Ridiculous. Hog Farm (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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DJTJ
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . Thank you anti-deletionist J947. (non-admin closure) Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 07:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * DJTJ → Donald Trump Jr. (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DJTJ&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect created by a blocked user called Composemi. Also, implausible initialism. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. At least check whether it's been used (which it has, unambiguously so). — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 05:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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NK (Korea)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="NK (Korea)">NK (Korea) → North Korea (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NK_(Korea)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect created by a blocked user called Composemi. Also, unnecessary disambiguation, and we do not have SK (Korea). <U>I predict that the inclusionist J947 will !vote to keep the redirect and encourage to create the South Korea counterpart.</U> Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unnecessary as disambiguation and unlikely as a search term. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:23, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Unlikely search term as well as redundant, it literally means 'North Korea (Korea)'. What's the point? Captain Galaxy (talk) 09:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I would have considered supporting keep if this redirect was created from a pagemove, is very old, or has a significant number of pageviews (like 30) from creation. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 10:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Why was this redirect even made? --Micky (talk) 22:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Suny flagship
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 15:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Suny flagship → University at Buffalo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suny_flagship&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as a controversial claim at best (the SUNY system doesn't have an official flagship institution; the four "university centers" all vie for this status and external organizations and individuals make this claim for one university or another). ElKevbo (talk) 03:51, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - SUNY has no official flagship. Some give the honor to Buffalo, but that's far from universally accepted. Hog Farm (talk) 03:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete; if there's no flagship, this causes confusion by indicating that there is one. Nyttend (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this is a confusing redirect. --Micky (talk) 22:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree this is confusing, shouldn't have added it. --Yankees999 (talk) 23:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete implausible search term. Creator endorses deletion.–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 18:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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Bulls football
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) Pandakekok9 (talk) 08:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Bulls football → Buffalo Bulls football (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulls_football&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous with South Florida Bulls football. Could also be a reasonable mistake for the Buffalo Bills. "Bulls" are too common of a mascot to point this to a single team. Hog Farm (talk) 03:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. ElKevbo (talk) 03:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I've added a draft. It's a surprisingly uncommon mascot - I only found two other teams, one not mentioned in its article. Narky Blert (talk) 12:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambig per Narky Blert. Thryduulf (talk) 14:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as above. --Micky (talk) 22:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Between USF and UB --Yankees999 (talk) 23:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguateper Narky-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 11:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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RedirectName
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural keep  . Malformed nom, closing. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm (talk) 03:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * RedirectName → TargetArticle (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RedirectName&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action. ElKevbo (talk) 03:35, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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SUNY football
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 26%23SUNY football

New York football
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Sports in New York (state). (non-admin closure) Captain Galaxy (talk) 09:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * New York football → Buffalo Bulls football (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_football&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * New york football → Buffalo Bulls football (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_york_football&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as both an unlikely search term for readers and a very unlikely target ElKevbo (talk) 03:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could refer to football at any high school in New York, or any college in New York (go Syracuse Orange!), to the Jets, Giants, Bills (NFL), or to topics in association football, not American football.  Hopelessly ambiguous. Hog Farm (talk) 03:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Hog Farm. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  04:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Football in the United States. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sports in New York (state) (where Sports in New York redirects). Despite the name this does cover New York City and is appropriate whether the searcher means football, soccer or any other sport called "football". That article does cover New York City as well, but I'm about to add a hatnote to the more specific article too. Thryduulf (talk) 14:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget Thryduulf's suggestion makes the most sense. --Micky (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * RetargetAgree with Thryduulf. --Yankees999 (talk) 23:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to Sports in New York (state) per Thryduulf, this term is kinda ambiguous. Regards, SONIC  678  14:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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Government transparency
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  the first and last, retarget the middle one to Open government. --BDD (talk) 14:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Government transparency → Open government (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Government_transparency&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Government Transparency → Transparency (behavior) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Government_Transparency&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Goverment Transparency → Open government (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goverment_Transparency&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should point to the same target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget <tt>Government transparency</tt> & <tt>Government Transparency</tt>to <tt>Open government</tt>, as this article has broader coverage of the topic. However...
 * Delete <tt>Goverment Transparency</tt> – No reason to retain a typographical error. (And please do not rebut with "redirects are cheap".) You'll see in the edit history that the page creator knew about spelling error and that he recognized the mistake.<span style="font-family:Futura,serif;border-bottom:2px solid #09DB67;">Senator2029 “Talk”  05:49, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So you are advocating annoying readers – those readers are making an extremely common misspelling – for absolutely no gain whatsoever? That's just plain stupid. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 06:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Why keep a redirect which was created in error but which the creator didn't know how to delete? Also - the last sentence of your comment looks to me like a WP:PA, and you might like to consider withdrawing it. Narky Blert (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * J947 didn't call Senator2029 stupid. He called his argument for deletion stupid. That's not a personal attack. Pandakekok9 (talk) 03:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget all three to Open government, and tag the (highly plausible, regardless of its individual history) typo with R from typo as usual. -- N Y  Kevin   15:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * – Certainly I don't want to annoy readers, but none would be by deleting this obvious typo. This is because the new and improved search function now utilized by Wikipedia. Type in goverment and if the browser doesn't autocorrect the spelling, and the reader clicks enter, the resulting page will say Did you mean government? Anyone who has ever used a search engine before will be familiar with this, so it won't be an anoyance.  This, coupled with the evidence the creator of the redirect would have requested deletion (and it would have been granted), is my rationale for deletion. We have the opportunity now to clean up a mistake, let's do it.  There is not a reason to retain errors. <span style="font-family:Futura,serif;font-size:88%;border-bottom:2px solid #09DB67;text-decoration:none;">Senator2029 “Talk”  23:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * tell me – what is a positive result of the deletion of an unambiguous redirect? Remember that using the Wikipedia search bar is merely one way to find a redirect; the reader can get to a redirect from the URL bar or links as well. Why annoy readers to make them do more clicks when it can so eaisly be circumvented? Whether a redirect was accidentally created has no bearing on the current and future merits of it, given that redirects serve to help readers. The mere fact that it was created by accident showcases the plausibility of this redirect. Why delete? — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 02:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on what new targets these redirects should point to, but don't delete any of these redirects, especially Goverment Transparency. Though it only got 2 pageviews from 17 March to 10 June 2020, this is a plausible typo, and I agree with J947 that there's no benefit to be gained from deleting this redirect. Pandakekok9 (talk) 03:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Do we not have a responsibility as editors to prune away cruft and clutter? Should we systematically create "goverment" redirects for every article that has "government" its name? What about "trensparency" redirects to "transparency"?  Let's think of all the possible ways to misspell words, and create thousands of redirects?  Shall we agree that is not in the best interest of our encyclopedia?  This one (which should/would have been deleted initially, see above) has been presented for our consideration.  I have made the case for deletion. <span style="font-family:Futura,serif;font-size:88%;border-bottom:2px solid #09DB67;text-decoration:none;">Senator2029 “Talk”  21:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You say this is cruft and clutter, but that does not address the point. Discussions to delete these redirects (which are evidently helpful) is much more cruft than the redirects themselves. What is the benefit to deleting helpful clutter (bear in mind WP:DWAP). — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 22:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Target all to Open government. Reasonable error in Transparent Goverment, especially since at least in some American English dialects, the n in government is silent.  At least one college has even made this mistake, see . Hog Farm (talk) 03:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Target all to Open government J947 and Hog Farm make reasonable, valid points. --Micky (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Bag of holding
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 * The result of the discussion was Restore Bag of holding, delete the rest  . Given that there's some ambiguity between calls to restore content about Bag of Holding at the target vs. restoring it as an article, I think the easiest path forward is to restore the article without prejudice toward future merging if people find that to be more appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 19:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Bag of holding → Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bag_of_holding&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Girdle of femininity/masculinity">Girdle of femininity/masculinity → Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girdle_of_femininity/masculinity&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Spear of Vix → Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spear_of_Vix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Spear of vix → Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spear_of_vix&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ring of regeneration → Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ring_of_regeneration&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of these are mentioned at the target page. Not a very active user (talk) 12:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Bag of holding, delete the rest. The bag of holding is one of the first results when searching 'bag' on Google meaning it is recognisable and is the only item in the list to have a lot of visits daily. The other items aren't as notable. Captain Galaxy (talk) 13:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all none of them are covered in Wikipedia. I do see some leftover visits, usually connected to non-encyclopedic articles that used to exist. But we should remove Wikipedia from the search terms, so people can go to fan wikis and game guides. Jontesta (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Not mentioned in WP, therefore any reader following these links will find nothing useful. Notes. (1) The F/M Girdle is an item in Baldur's Gate, but isn't mentioned there; nor should it be, it's a very minor game feature. (2) The Ring of Gaxx, mentioned in the target, has regeneration as one of its powers, but is not the same as a vanilla Ring of Regeneration. (3) The Bag of Holding is a generic item, and I think may be present in some non-D&D games; it should not be confused with Michael Holding's 14/149 at the Oval in 1976. Narky Blert (talk) 09:26, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Bag of holding (and restore the missing content), delete the rest--agree with Captain Galaxy. A simple WP:BEFORE goes a long way. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 21:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep Bag of holding (and restore the missing content per AugusteBlanqui, possibly adding some appropriate stuff from the last version of the redirect when it was an article before a proposed merge) per high pageviews (556 in the last 20 days alone!); but delete the rest per above, it might be better to let the D&D wikis do the job of directing people to their articles about these items. Regards, SONIC  678  15:34, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all None of these strike me as particularly useful. --Micky (talk) 22:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore Bag of holding article and delete the rest. Consensus is clear enough here, but as a potential closer, I was having difficulty figuring out the "restore content" step for the bag of holding. The most recent version of the magic item article mentioned it in a couple of places in passing, but the article structure has since shifted. But the old bag of holding article was actually decent; it just had the misfortune of being merged to Magic satchel, which was deleted last month. Specifically, I propose restoring the bag of holding article as it stood last December before that merge. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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L2 norm
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural keep  .  It's not clear what the nominator wants, and there's no consensus between participants.  Feel free to open a new nomination at any point.  Nyttend (talk) 12:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * L2 norm → Norm (mathematics) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=L2_norm&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A reader might also look for the norm on the function space. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you be more explicit in what you are proposing? Do you propose deletion, another redirect target, or yet another action? If you are referring to Lp spaces, do you have evidence the term "L2 norm " is used in that context? Or do you mean something else by referring to "the norm on the function space"? --Lambiam 12:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Lp space or to a section in this article. The case of Euclidean norm, is a special case of a L2 norm, but, when a mathematician see this phrase, he does not generally think of the Euclidean case, but most probably to the infinite dimensional case arising in functional analysis. So this redirect must be retargeted to Lp space, which is already the target of Lp norm, L1 space, etc. The other redirects with similar names must also be retargeted similarly. D.Lazard (talk) 12:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. While I won't oppose retargeting to Lp space, I wish to point out an issue. There is no suitable section to retarget to, but the lead does not even mention the term "Lp norm", so this will contravene WP:R. This is made worse by the fact that where norms are discussed, they are called p-norms; the nomenclature of "Lp norm" is present but in a somewhat buried form. --Lambiam 19:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Procedural keep Malformed nom, I don't understand. --Micky (talk) 22:57, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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