Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 23

June 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 23, 2020.

Net TV
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy disambiguate  . Already turned into a DAB page. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Net TV → Streaming television (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_TV&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate. This has been a redirect since 2006, when the target was at "Internet television", but there are very obvious other targets, some of which don't have articles here: Net TV (Argentina), NET (Indonesian TV network), NET (Maltese TV channel), Net TV (Iraq/Kurdistan), Net TV Nepal, New Evangelization Television (to which NET TV in all caps redirects), and es:Net TV (España). This page title has a number of incoming links that are for the Indonesian, Maltese and Iraqi channels. Raymie (t • c) 20:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate this per nom, with these TV channels and the current target at the page, if that doesn't work retarget wherever appropriate. I don't know if there's a clear primary topic, regardless, people could be looking for any one of these channels plus many more NET TV channels out there. Regards, SONIC  678  21:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom, and you forgot National Educational Television (which NET stands for). Purplneon486 (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This RfD already led me to write Sociedad Gestora de Televisión Net TV, which should also be linked from here. (It's related to but distinct from the Net TV (Spanish TV network) article we need.) Raymie (t • c) 21:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate per nom. {&#123;3125A &#124; talk &#125;} 13:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I have provided a draft. I have also pre-emptively retargeted NET TV and Network TV there, so a snow close would be a good idea. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Pretty Good
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:34, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Pretty Good → Larry David (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pretty_Good&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect makes no sense. 'Pretty good' is a pretty common phrase in general English, not just a single-use phrase attributed to an actor. Serhatserhatserhat (talk) 20:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete can't see a sensible article to retarget it to. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:19, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Only mention on the page is in the title of a book in recommended reading. Is this a quote from the Seinfeld show? Regardless, delete as it doesn't make sense to be redirecting specifically generic English phrases to people who used them, even if those usages are potentially notable. BlackholeWA (talk) 10:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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Arjun Singh ( politician)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Arjun Singh ( politician)">Arjun Singh ( politician) → Arjun Singh (politician, born 1962) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arjun_Singh_(_politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="John Maxwell ( politician)">John Maxwell ( politician) → John Maxwell (politician) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Maxwell_(_politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Roger Williams ( politician)">Roger Williams ( politician) → Roger Williams (American politician) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Williams_(_politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Richard Hudson ( politician)">Richard Hudson ( politician) → Richard Hudson (American politician) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Hudson_(_politician)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These four were part of a mass nomination by just over two weeks ago. Malformed parentheses aside, they're kinda ambiguous as to which politician they refer to, aside from the John Maxwell one. In the case of the other three, the correctly formatted titles (two of which I created just over a week prior) redirect to the appropriate sections on their respective disambiguation pages. Maybe it's time to 1) delete these, or 2) if they're worth keeping, retarget them to the same places as the correctly formatted titles? Regards, SONIC  678  19:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as malformed. No need to keep these lying around if the correctly formatted ones exist. ComplexRational (talk) 02:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete the clutter as per my previous nomination. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:55, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unnecessary clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 18:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all - None have any history that appears worth saving. Also, three out of four would need to be DABified, which is not worth doing IMHO. -- N Y  Kevin   04:12, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Collapse forcing
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 30%23Collapse forcing

Base-building
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Mz7 (talk) 21:52, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Base-building → Real-time strategy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Base-building&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Basebuilding → Progressive Labor Party (United States) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Basebuilding&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term can refer to either a feature of many strategy video games, a political strategy primarily associated with communist groups, or the literal construction of a foundation for an architectural project. I think that there's a good chance that the latter two subjects may be notable in their own right, but these concepts don't appear to be explained anywhere on Wikipedia. Thus, I would lean toward deletion to encourage article creation given the lack of a suitable alternative target or viable candidates for disambiguation. signed,Rosguill talk 18:45, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, with all whose observations I agree. Narky Blert (talk) 19:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't seem viable for disambiguation. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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Tune of the Week
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Mz7 (talk) 21:53, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Tune of the Week → Annie Mac (radio show) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tune_of_the_Week&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fairly generic segment name, not mentioned at the target. Searching online returned a load of results that had nothing to do with Annie Mac. I would thus suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 18:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * From what I gained in my Google search, it looks like multiple BBC Radio 1 DJs can have Tune of the Week, not just Annie Mac. Surely redirect to Radio 1? HeyitsBen talk 18:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I do see the BBC1 results, but I also see results unaffiliated with the BBC, such as, , . signed,Rosguill talk 18:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete far too ambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 20:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete many programmes will have a Tune of the Week, as demonstrated in sources above. So redirect as ambiguous. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 11:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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North Kilt Town
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


 * North Kilt Town → Lard of the Dance (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_Kilt_Town&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor plot detail, not mentioned at the target article. I would suggest deletion unless someone thinks that it would be due to add a mention. signed,Rosguill talk 18:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not worth a mention in the article. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 08:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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Harvard BS
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Harvard BS → Harvard Business School (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harvard_BS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can find HBS for short but not Harvard BS. I almost shrugged this off per WP:RCHEAP, but BS is short for bullshit so this could be somewhat harmful. This is also from User:Composemi, who made Saint Floyd, Corona baby, Coronacaust, and COVIDemic. Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 19:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep; seems to be unambiguous and used but this isn't too helpful. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 19:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep It makes sense and should stay but it can be seen as inappropriate. Captain Galaxy (talk) 16:21, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This is someone jealous of Harvard Business School just trying to throw shade with an inappropriate term. --Xannir (talk) 13:25, 18 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing — a Harvard BS is a bachelor of science degree from Harvard. Nyttend (talk) 12:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete per Nyttend. It could also mean bullshittery from Harvard (something I haven't heard of yet, but it's a plausible for someone to search for) as the nominator says. I think it would be better if we let the search tool do its job instead. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:38, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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Sachin 10dulkar
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Sachin 10dulkar → Sachin Tendulkar (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sachin_10dulkar&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another silly redirect created by the user who create useless neologisms like Condemic, COVIDemic, Covidemic, etc. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 18:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. WP:MADEUP nonsense. Narky Blert (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep; this one actually isn't WP:MADEUP and has been used by reliable sources – always a strong indication of a neologism's worth to readers. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 19:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - it seems to have been used as a hashtag in comments in reliable sources or in the odd tweet, but not, as far as I can make out, by the reliable sources themselves. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per User:Narky Blert --Xannir (talk) 13:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep; most of the links are not reliable sources, but says "His name and jersey number have been branded many times as ’10dulkar’."  So regardless of whether it's common in reliable sources, it would be a likely search term for this individual.  Nyttend (talk) 12:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per nom. StickyWicket (talk) 19:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep 10dulkar appears to be nickname or stylisation widely used and not something made up -, therefore a valid search term. Hzh (talk) 18:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above sources, does actually seem to be used. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 08:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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FEU Hymn
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * FEU Hymn → Far Eastern University (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FEU_Hymn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of any hymns at the target, delete unless an appropriately sourced mention can be added. signed,Rosguill talk 18:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking this up on Google there is an actual hymn, which is also mention | here. Plus this page does get occasional visits. It seems harmless to keep it. Captain Galaxy (talk) 20:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So, add it to the target. Its lack of sourced mention there is the only reason it is at RFD. So long as it isn't mentioned in the target, this redirect is useless, because any reader following it will find zero information, useful or otherwise. Narky Blert (talk) 18:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It has now been added to the history section. It might need a bit more to it since I'm not well versed in the subject matter. Captain Galaxy (talk) 14:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep without prejudice against near-future renomination. The hymn was reverted from the target, but might be added again in the near future per WP:BRD. If the disputed content is not restored, then it might make sense to renominate. -- N Y  Kevin   04:15, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Just worth mentioning that even without the hymn was in the article this was not useless, as it makes it clear what the acronym refers to.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough  18:17, 28 June 2020 (UTC).


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Corona crisis
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to COVID-19 pandemic. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Corona crisis → Coronavirus recession (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corona_crisis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was originally a redirect to 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic but it was boldly retargetted on 1 May. In a discussion about the similar Covid crisis redirect (link) Chiswick Chap said "the crisis is medical, social, and political as well as purely economic", which I completely agree with. As such I propose to retarget this back to the general 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic article. Thryduulf (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic is renamed to COVID-19 pandemic on May 2020. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget (restore old target) as proposed. See my quoted comment above that applies here too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf and Chiswick Chap. Also, both articles are crosslinked, so the reader will find what s/he is looking for. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to COVID-19 pandemic (as proposed), which is clearly the primary topic. -- N Y  Kevin   04:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Buckwitz
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy disambiguate  . Already converted into a surname page. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Buckwitz → Harry Buckwitz (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buckwitz&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous, as more than one person with the surname (Harry Buckwitz, Lisa Buckwitz). Surname DAB would be a better option <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 09:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Why don't you just do it? I guess he might still be the primary topic, so Buckwitz (disambiguation). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Convert to surname page. I've added a draft, and a link to the equivalent German WP Page; they should be InterWiki linked.
 * If there's only one person with a particular surname, a redirect from the surname to that article should be created and tagged R from surname (possibly with a relevant surname-language category). If there are two or more, then a surname page (pace, not a DAB page) is correct; except in the extremely rare cases where there is a WP:PTOPIC for the name (e.g. Churchill, Einstein and Goethe). Narky Blert (talk) 13:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Convert to a surname page per Narky Blert. If the surname is also a common noun and there is only a small number of both types of use then a single dab page can perform both functions, e.g. Dym (disambiguation), but that isn't relevant here. Thryduulf (talk) 15:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Convert into a surname page per the above. There's other people with this surname as well as Harry, and it might not be worth people's time to get them lost in finding their targets. Regards, SONIC  678  19:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Dr. A
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  per WP:SNOW. Clearly not ambiguous. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Dr. A → Isaac Asimov (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dr._A&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ambiguous with what? All the best: Rich Farmbrough  10:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC).


 * The nomination doesn't make sense. Richard75 (talk) 11:28, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep "ambiguous" The redirect makes sense to me. {&#123;3125A | talk &#125;} 12:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep this was the pen name he used for The Sensuous Dirty Old Man (1971). I've not found any other notable uses. Thryduulf (talk) 13:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Me too. Quite widely known.  scope_creep Talk  19:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Isaak Yudovich Ozimov
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  per SNOW. (non-admin closure)  — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Isaak Yudovich Ozimov → Isaac Asimov (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isaak_Yudovich_Ozimov&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect created from an unreliable source. See the talk page of Isaac Asimov. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep redirects do not rely on reliable sourcing. This name is widely attributed to him, e.g cover blurb here and in published books such as this.  Therefore if someone enters this name they should be sent to the Good Doctor's page.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough  10:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC).


 * Keep per WP:CHEAP. It's a name that used, if it's incorrect then tag it as such (Template:R from incorrect name). <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 11:03, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is a search term someone might use, and they won't know its wrong until they find their way to the Isaac Asimov page. Richard75 (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Thryduulf (talk) 13:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. I've added a hidden note with a sortkey and a better categorisation tag - it isn't R from long name if the two words in common are spelled differently. Narky Blert (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. {&#123;3125A | talk &#125;} 14:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Covid crisis
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 * The result of the discussion was keep without retargeting  . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Covid crisis → COVID-19 pandemic (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Covid_crisis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget this and similar redirects to coronavirus recession. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose, the crisis is medical, social, and political as well as purely economic, which is what retargeting to the recession would imply. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:06, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * With your argument, the corona crisis (redirected to coronavirus recession) should be retargeted back to COVID-19 pandemic. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 11:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That seems like an obviously more appropriate target to me. --JBL (talk) 13:52, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Chiswick Chap. --JBL (talk) 13:51, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above, also yes, retarget coronavirus recession to COVID-19 pandemic. {&#123;3125A | talk &#125;} 14:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merging Coronavirus recession (which I like to call it "2020 recession" for some unknown reasons. Once those reasons are identified, I will RM the article) with COVID-19 pandemic will make the article big like a hippopotomonstrosesquipedalio (hippopotamusly big word). --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Chiswick Chap. I'll start a separate discussion for Corona crisis. Thryduulf (talk) 15:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Now done, see . Thryduulf (talk) 15:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Pravduh.com
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . I have created the redirect. Therefore, tagging the redirect for speedy. (non-admin closure) Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Pravduh.com → Elon Musk (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pravduh.com&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer mentioned on the article. I suggest deletion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 06:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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The village with the long name
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 30%23The village with the long name

Liam Dutton
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 30%23Liam Dutton

Flo and Joan
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close - no longer a redirect.  Thryduulf (talk) 15:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Flo and Joan → Live at the Apollo (TV series) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flo_and_Joan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Live at the Apollo is not Flo and Joan's greatest fame. We don't have an article on what they're best known for, so I propose deleting to encourage article creation per WP:REDLINK. <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 00:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom to encourage article creation. Narky Blert (talk) 13:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That was quick - article has now been created, by . Is there a WP:SPEEDYCLOSE clause for this?-- <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 19:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep (changing !vote), article now exists. Narky Blert (talk) 13:05, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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2020 United States pandelection
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * 2020 United States pandelection → 2020 United States presidential election (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_United_States_pandelection&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_25, almost identical to a redirect deleted back in May. Hog Farm (talk) 00:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:R3 and also per the reasoning of that previous TfD which I just glanced at. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous Rfd for similar page (per nom). Mdewman6 (talk) 02:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete – This redirect is WP:MADEUP from pandemic and election. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am now seeing a few uses of "pandelection" but other than this redirect and exactly 1 tweet (which is ambiguous out of context) 100% relate to Karabakh not the United States. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, also per WP:R3. {&#123;3125A | talk &#125;} 16:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Mornan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Mornan → Gondor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mornan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fictional mountain not mentioned at target article. I can't find any usage of this in a Middle-earth context on enwiki. Mornan blanc is a grape variety at List of grape varieties, and Mornans is a French commune. I'd say either delete or redirect to Mornans as a plausible error. Hog Farm (talk) 00:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: It's the Blackroot Vale where the Paths of the Dead led. I think we can do without it for now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Starkhorn
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Starkhorn → Gondor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Starkhorn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

If I recall correctly, this is one of the White Mountains of Middle-earth. The White Mountains were merged into Gondor, and Starkhorn is not mentioned anywhere. Starkhorn is gonna be out of scope to mention anywhere. No mergers apparent in page history. Hog Farm (talk) 00:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's the mountain above Dunharrow and Edoras but not important in the tale. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N. {&#123;3125A | talk &#125;} 01:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete not needed, if someone knows enough to know this name, they'll know it's in Gondor. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 08:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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