Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 31

March 31
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 31, 2020.

National Geographic (Africa)
     Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%23National Geographic (Africa)

Melted chocolate
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Melted chocolate → Ganache (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melted_chocolate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't believe that all melted chocolate is considered "ganache", and I don't know how likely of a search term "melted chocolate" is for somebody searching for this topic. I view retargeting to be a valid option here too, but I'm not sure where it would go besides chocolate. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: There are several things they could be looking for: ganache, hot fudge, chocolate fondue, or just chocolate in general. I don't think every possible term needs to be covered.— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 03:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could also be searched for by someone seeking advice on how to remove melted chocolate from clothes or the carpet. Narky Blert (talk) 11:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - The inherent vagueness means that deletion is the right call. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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Crystal Lake (DJs)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Crystal Lake (DJs) → Armada Music (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crystal_Lake_(DJs)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. Jalen Folf  (talk)  21:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Bas Van Essen
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Bas Van Essen → Armada Music (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bas_Van_Essen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. Jalen Folf  (talk)  21:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. A search turned up no reason to add him to the target. Narky Blert (talk) 11:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - This individual appears to exist (at least, well, I think that it's a single person and not the moniker of a group). Other than that... there's just about nothing out there. I agree. Non-notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The music is pretty alright, all things considered. Just saying. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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2020 coronavirus pandemic in Burundi
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . It is now an article. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 10:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Burundi → 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Africa (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Burundi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This may be a bit of "ignoring all rules", but I feel like this redirect should be deleted so that this is remains as a red link to encourage article creation. At the page 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Africa, every country has an individual page except for Burundi, which has a redirect to the list, even though the "main article" notice is present. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've been curating a few of these, and I believe that they are useful for readers when there isn't enough material for a standalone article yet. Anyone can be bold and turn a redirect into an article, no reason to make it red and inconvenience readers. ComplexRational (talk) 21:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, refine it to a R to section per J947, that's of course better than just leaving it as is. ComplexRational (talk) 22:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I do see what you mean, I really do. However, a redirect is no more helpful than a red link in terms of information available, given that there is not currently much dedicated information at the target. The draw about leaving this as a red link is that it encourages passersby to create an article at that page, rather than see a blue link and ignore it. A blue-link gives the false impression that we have more information about this topic outside of the list, when we really do not, and blue links are less likely to attract bold editors for that reason. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair point, though also remember that passersby who are IPs or newly registered (now we can expect plenty of such editors) can expand redirects but not create new articles. ComplexRational (talk) 22:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally think that the information at the target is quite helpful; it's a fair amount of information IMO. Also, please adhere to MOS:LISTGAP. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 22:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * keep (as creator).....Starzoner (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Africa (well duh) and remove main article link—per ComplexRational. Our main goal with redirects is always to direct the readers, and that's why this redirect is important. The rcats should be R with possibilities, R to section, R from subltopic, R unprintworthy,, , , and . —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 21:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, refine and tag per everybody above. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 2020 coronavirus outbreak in Burundi must be renamed to 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Burundi. Kanghuitari (talk) 10:51, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment With two cases identified in Burundi on March 31st, the whole situation has changed. We should rename the existing article to this title.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment; it's an article now. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 19:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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2020 NCAA tournament
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%232020 NCAA tournament

China republic
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%23China republic

Charles Globe
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Charles Globe → List of The Ren & Stimpy Show characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Globe&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Sergeant Bigbutt → List of The Ren & Stimpy Show characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sergeant_Bigbutt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Louis Lungbubble → List of The Ren & Stimpy Show characters (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Lungbubble&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A bundle of non notable characters from The Ren and Stimpy Show that are not discussed at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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ANOTR
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * ANOTR → Armada Music (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ANOTR&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target; cannot find another suitable target. Jalen Folf  (talk)  20:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. ANOTR is mentioned once in the target, but in a way which gives no useful information.
 * A Google search turns up several pages about a Dutch DJ duo ANOTR who have no article in Dutch WP; and nothing else. So far as I can tell, they never have had a Dutch article. For background, here is their Discogs entry. I would have trouble getting them through WP:GNG; but if any editor wants to try, a blank page would be a better start than a redirect. Narky Blert (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Lakarian City
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Lakarian City → Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lakarian_City&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fictional city only mentioned in two episodes. One was in reference to a amusement center located there, the other was in reference to its destruction by Dominion forces. TheAwesome Hwyh  17:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like it was also in some novels, but I still don't think that's enough to justify a redirect. TheAwesome  Hwyh  18:01, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep. If it is actually mentioned in these episodes (I don't know), is the correct spelling, and is not in conflict with a term needed for another article, this is exactly the type of redirect we want to see, reliably redirecting a reader, who runs into this somewhere, to the relevant bit of info. Also, if, over time, there are links to this term, the existance of such redirects aids reverse lookup of (other) information. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 10:51, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete. The target page doesn't mention Lakarian City, so a reader won't find any relevant bits of info by using this redirect. Not a very active user (talk) 14:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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C：\WINDOWS
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="C：\WINDOWS">C：\WINDOWS → Environment variable (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C%EF%BC%9A%5CWINDOWS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No need for U+FF1A FULLWIDTH COLON instead of a normal colon. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The argument raised by Ketil Trout appears to be swaying new participants, but editors who already voted delete have not weighed in, and numerically the camps are roughly even right now.
 * Delete: While the most common location/setting for the SystemRoot Microsoft Windows environment variable SystemRoot can be place elsewhere. Djm-leighpark (talk) 12:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Still, “C:\WINDOWS” (normal colon) is a term a reader could plausibly search for. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I remain strongly with delete as this redirect to environment variable yields too much of a WP:SURPRISE rather than what might be a reasonable result. Simply typing in "windows" gets the person where the're likely to want to go and if they know about environment variables already its hardly a search term they'd likely used.  Technically I was incorrect about as C:\Windows is a concatentation of %SysemDrive%SystemRoot%.  So remaining strongly with delete.  Peoples may also care to look up WP:TSC & WP:NC-COLON ... but I still remain deleete.Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I found the reason now. If a normal colon was used, the redirect would point to the nonexistent Commons page “\Windows”. The problem is that a reader who searches for “C:\WINDOWS” still comes out on Commons, and they hardly would decide to use a fullwidth colon in their searches. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Very few users are going to know 1. That the regular colon won't get them to the right target 2. That the fullwidth colon will and 3. How to insert a fullwidth colon character. This combination makes it implausible. Hog Farm (talk) 21:04, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, typing in “C:\WIN” already shows the variant with the fullwidth colon in the quick results. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are |a number of redirects starting with "C：" to get around the technical restriction that C: is used as a namespace prefix for Commons. That they show up in the search results to point you where you want to be when you type "C:..." is a good thing. See Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_27.—Ketil Trout (&lt;&gt;&lt;!) 05:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep; this has fair views because of the search results thing. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 01:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ketil Trout and J947. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Ketil Trout. This is a hack, but one that demonstrably helps our readers and so should be kept. Thryduulf (talk) 21:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per those above. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 23:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. A useful hack which gets round a technical limitation and helps searching. Narky Blert (talk) 11:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Military preparedness
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Combat readiness. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Military preparedness → Military science (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_preparedness&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is not clear why "military preparedness" should redirect to "military science": it doesn't appear as a phrase in the article and doesn't seem to be covered by the definition in the lead. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Military, perhaps, as does? Narky Blert (talk) 13:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment - Does anybody else believe that this topic deserves a broad concept article? Neither keeping it as is nor simply deleting it feels right. In an ideal world, we'd have a long and detailed page discussing, say, how the lack of preparedness of democratic nations before the advent of WWII caused massive and unnecessary loss of life when the conflict began. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Combat readiness, which I think is closer to how the term is actually used. I suspect it might be possible to write an article at this title though.  Hut 8.5  20:14, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Combat readiness per Hut 8.5 Eddie891 Talk Work 22:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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3102000153
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * 3102000153 → Harvey Weinstein (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3102000153&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is Weinstein's inmate number, but absent any mention of "inmate" or the like, it's just a number and not a plausible search term. I would suggest deletion signed,Rosguill talk 20:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete per WP:R3. No one is going to search up Harvey Weinstein by typing a 10 digit number. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 20:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, agreed with Ocelot. This is a very obscure fact, and having this redirect available doesn't benefit anybody. – numbermaniac  02:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete this is just a random 10 digit number, it has no meaning, the number is neither notable nor well known. Literally implausible. SSSB (talk) 08:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is also a phone number in Gardena, California, a control number for a candidate for employment by the Railway Recruitment Board, Gorakhpur, India, the business license number for a short-term accommodation company in Huế, Vietnam, and likely many other things. Thryduulf (talk) 10:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 'Delete - I agree. This simply isn't useful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, it does seem to be the primary topic for this number but in the end it's more harm than it's worth. The search results convey slightly more information. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 02:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Related redirects: and . —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 02:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Only $1.00
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%23Only $1.00

Hot Fries
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hot Fries → Andy Capp's (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hot_Fries&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Without the "Andy Capp's" prefix in the redirect, as seen in Andy Capp's Hot Fries, this redirect is misleading and ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete highly ambiguous per Chester's Hot Fries -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 00:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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2020 coronavirus pandemic in the Canadian provinces
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  by  and  per WP:CSD. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 20:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the Nova Scotia → 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Canada (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Nova_Scotia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the New Brunswick → 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Canada (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_New_Brunswick&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the Quebec → 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Canada (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Quebec&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the Prince Edward Island → 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Canada (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Prince_Edward_Island&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no "the" in the name of any Canadian province; the correct titles are already articles or appropriate redirects to sections of the target. I find no evidence of even occasional (incorrect) inclusion of "the", and the simple redirects don't exist (and shouldn't exist, e.g. the Quebec). I suggest deletion. ComplexRational (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I've tagged them for deletion. Starzoner (talk) 20:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Australia's Canada
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Australia's Canada → New Zealand (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australia%27s_Canada&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a WP:SURPRISE and a confusing redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as joke.— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:13, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: This seems to be a name used in America (The Book), as mentioned in a Wikipedia article years ago, but is now removed. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete It only works from the perspective of someone from the USA, so it's pure US-centrism, something we need a lot less of in Wikipedia. HiLo48 (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly a joke redirect - it's akin when John Oliver of Last Week Tonight referred to New Zealand as "Australia's Australia". Not appropriate for a serious encyclopedia. – numbermaniac  03:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. For obvious reasons, we don't have an entry for the Tasmanian meaning of North Island either. Narky Blert (talk) 09:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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(film) (films) and more
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Italian Job (2003 film) (film)">The Italian Job (2003 film) (film) → The Italian Job (2003 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Italian_Job_(2003_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mighty Joe Young (1998 film) (film)">Mighty Joe Young (1998 film) (film) → Mighty Joe Young (1998 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mighty_Joe_Young_(1998_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Devil's Advocate (1997 film) (film)">The Devil's Advocate (1997 film) (film) → The Devil's Advocate (1997 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Devil%27s_Advocate_(1997_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Scarecrow (1973 film) (film)">Scarecrow (1973 film) (film) → Scarecrow (1973 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarecrow_(1973_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Sweet November (2001 film) (film)">Sweet November (2001 film) (film) → Sweet November (2001 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sweet_November_(2001_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="365 Days (Telugu film film)">365 Days (Telugu film film) → 365 Days (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=365_Days_(Telugu_film_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Satisfaction (film) (film)">Satisfaction (film) (film) → Satisfaction (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Satisfaction_(film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Billy Bathgate (film) (film)">Billy Bathgate (film) (film) → Billy Bathgate (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Billy_Bathgate_(film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Good Mother (1988 film) (film)">The Good Mother (1988 film) (film) → The Good Mother (1988 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Good_Mother_(1988_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Cider House Rules (film) (film)">The Cider House Rules (film) (film) → The Cider House Rules (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Cider_House_Rules_(film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ghajini (2007 film) (2007 film)">Ghajini (2007 film) (2007 film) → Ghajini (2008 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghajini_(2007_film)_(2007_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cactus Film (film)">Cactus Film (film) → Cactus Flower (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cactus_Film_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Seven (1995 film) (film)">Seven (1995 film) (film) → Seven (1995 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_(1995_film)_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't see why "film" should be mentioned twice in the disambiguator here (and for the "Cactus Film" one, it could refer to multiple movies with the title Cactus). Leaning delete unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC  678  19:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nominator. Most were created by User:JoeSperrazza— Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all absurdities. Ribbet32 (talk) 20:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all this junk. Narky Blert (talk) 21:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all I don't see how these redirects would be of benefit to anybody. – numbermaniac  03:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all - There's no reason I can see to keep these. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. To be fair, the "Cactus Film" one results from a page move, because the article about Cactus Flower was originally created at the wrong title, but that's not a reason why we would actually need to retain a redirect with no obvious benefit. The others are just pure silliness, mostly created intentionally, as immediate redirects to articles that were already at their correct titles, for no obviously useful reason. Bearcat (talk) 16:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. - Poydoo is good at talking and editing 16:46, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Behaviour of gases
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gas kinetics. signed,Rosguill talk 00:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Behaviour of gases → Ideal gas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Behaviour_of_gases&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not all gases are ideal, so this redirect could be misleading Utopes (talk / cont) 19:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gas kinetics, that seems to be the best broad-scope article describing behavior of gases (not exclusively ideal gases), at least as far as the physics involved. Possible alternatives would be Gas or Gas, but those don't describe behavior per se as well, and one has a hatnote for gas kinetics. ComplexRational (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per CR. Gas kinetics looks as good a starting point as any. Narky Blert (talk) 11:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Tzar Alexander (disambaguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete WP:SNOW (the only objection below appears to have misread the reason) -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Tzar Alexander (disambaguation)">Tzar Alexander (disambaguation) → Tsar Alexander (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tzar_Alexander_(disambaguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another misspelling in the generic disambig qualifier. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as usual.
 * This looks like a good opportunity to advertise Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion on this page and to invite comments there. Narky Blert (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep @User:1234qwer1234qwer4 and User:Narky Blert did you check a dictionary before making your statementa? See for example oxfordlearnersdictionaries Tzar or the OED:
 * tsar | czar], n.
 * Pronunciation: Brit. /zɑː/, /tsɑː/,  U.S. /zɑr/, /tsɑr/
 * Forms: Also 16 zarr, czaar, czarr, ksar, 17– tzar.
 * Etymology: Romanized spellings of Russian tsari, in Bulgarian tsar... (Show More)
 * a. Historical. The title of the autocrat or emperor of Russia; historically, borne also by Serbian rulers of the 14th cent., as the Tsar Stephen Dushan.
 * Also see ngarm tsar, tsar. For contempory works during the Napolonic wars "Tzar" was far more common that "Tsar"
 * So have either of you changed you mind on this redirect now that you have see that it is not a misspelling but an alternative?-- PBS (talk) 10:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see any of the linked sources stating that “disambaguation” is not a misspelling. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "Tzar" is a perfectly good English word. "disambaguation" is not. Narky Blert (talk) 11:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "Tzar" is a perfectly good English word. "disambaguation" is not. Narky Blert (talk) 11:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as a recently created implausible typo and specifically per WP:RDAB. Certes (talk) 12:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. We already have pointing to the same target. A redirect with the same spelling of the main term, plus a misspelled parenthetical disambiguator, adds zero value. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 15:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Jauch (disambituation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete WP:SNOW -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jauch (disambituation)">Jauch (disambituation) → Jauch (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jauch_(disambituation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another misspelling in the generic disambig qualifier. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I created a page with this title some time on Nov 27, 2015. A few minutes later a bot seems to have moved it to "Jauch", and converted "Jauch (disambituation)" to a redirect. I later noticed that I'd mis-typed the title and moved the page to "Jauch (Disambiguation)" to fix the problem, without noticing that it had been converted to a redirect. I now see that another bot responded by "removing the double redirect", and somehow in the process restored the misspelled title. At least that's my best reconstruction from the edit logs. Anyway, there's certainly no reason for this page to exist! Eleuther (talk) 20:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for the usual reasons. Narky Blert (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Redirects to Chromatica
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Babylon (Lady Gaga song)">Babylon (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Babylon_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Castles & Mountains">Castles & Mountains → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_%26_Mountains&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Castles & Mountains (song)">Castles & Mountains (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_%26_Mountains_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Castles & Mountains (Lady Gaga song)">Castles & Mountains (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_%26_Mountains_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Castles and Mountains → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_and_Mountains&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Castles and Mountains (song)">Castles and Mountains (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_and_Mountains_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Castles and Mountains (Lady Gaga song)">Castles and Mountains (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castles_and_Mountains_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Equal Lover → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Lover&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Equal Lover (song)">Equal Lover (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Lover_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Equal Lover (Lady Gaga song)">Equal Lover (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Lover_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Glitter Kill → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glitter_Kill&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Glitter Kill (song)">Glitter Kill (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glitter_Kill_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Glitter Kill (Lady Gaga song)">Glitter Kill (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glitter_Kill_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Kindness Punk → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kindness_Punk&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Kindness Punk (song)">Kindness Punk (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kindness_Punk_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Kindness Punk (Lady Gaga song)">Kindness Punk (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kindness_Punk_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * People of Chromatica → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People_of_Chromatica&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="People of Chromatica (song)">People of Chromatica (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People_of_Chromatica_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="People of Chromatica (Lady Gaga song)">People of Chromatica (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People_of_Chromatica_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Purple Track → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purple_Track&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Purple Track (song)">Purple Track (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purple_Track_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Purple Track (Lady Gaga song)">Purple Track (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purple_Track_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Reveal Yourself → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reveal_Yourself&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Reveal Yourself (song)">Reveal Yourself (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reveal_Yourself_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Reveal Yourself (Lady Gaga song)">Reveal Yourself (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reveal_Yourself_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Six Feet Underground → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Six_Feet_Underground&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Six Feet Underground (song)">Six Feet Underground (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Six_Feet_Underground_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Six Feet Underground (Lady Gaga song)">Six Feet Underground (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Six_Feet_Underground_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Tea (Lady Gaga song)">Tea (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tea_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * The Greatest Fight → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Greatest_Fight&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="The Greatest Fight (song)">The Greatest Fight (song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Greatest_Fight_(song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="The Greatest Fight (Lady Gaga song)">The Greatest Fight (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Greatest_Fight_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Waves (Lady Gaga song)">Waves (Lady Gaga song) → Chromatica (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waves_(Lady_Gaga_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete all for being fanmade titles and not mentioned at the target. There is not even a confirmed release date for the album (as it has been delayed due to the coronavirus pandemic), let alone a confirmed track list—there are about five fanmade ones I've seen out there. This is pure speculation and an attempt to claim pages however speculative they may be—30 redirects based on something that looks to have been entirely invented by one editor is ridiculous.  Ss  112   18:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ss112, I've asked you to be stop mischaracterizing my edits. I created these redirects when a previous version of the album article displayed a track listing, which is something you do all the time, not "an attempt to claim pages". If you want to nominate pages for whatever reason, fine, but give your own reasons and please stop describing my intentions. I wish you would have just waited a month before nominating all these pages for deletion because the track listing will likely be confirmed soon. I assume some of these could be retargeted to other album or disambiguation pages, but I don't have time this very moment to scour Wikipedia for retargets. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if the article previously displayed these titles. Editors insert fake song and album titles on Wikipedia all the time—what a place this would be if we believed everything any random editor inserted on an article was real. I really doubt the track listing is going to be "confirmed soon" considering Lady Gaga basically just delayed the album to an unspecified release date, so you're guessing that based on absolutely nothing. Why would an artist release a track list for an album they've just put off? Besides, it doesn't matter—these titles are not based on anything tangible as there's no reliable source for them, so it's safe to assume they are entirely made up and not going to be any of the titles Gaga reveals, whenever she does end up doing that. I'm not looking for a back-and-forth argument with you here. In future, it would be wise to check to make sure titles are confirmed by the artist or a reputable news source before creating redirects based on them. That's what an experienced editor should be doing, and I see no reason why anybody would disagree.  Ss  112   20:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't say the redirects should be kept because I created them based on the previously posted track listing. I asked you to stop mischaracterizing my edits. There's a difference. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And I didn't say anything about you wanting to "keep" articles. I said you shouldn't be making redirects based on nothing but some random person's whims.  Ss  112   21:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The Greatest Fight could potentially be redirected to Muhammad Ali's Greatest Fight. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Six Feet Underground appears in Lord of the Lost and Nightmare in A-Minor, so that and Six Feet Underground (song) can be retargeted. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow, two or three out of 33 could be retargeted! It almost excuses you creating 30 more redirects based on nothing but a random account making up song titles.  Ss  112   21:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No need for sarcasm. All I was doing was trying to find possible retarget options. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget "The Greatest Fight", "Six Feet Underground", and "Six Feet Underground (song)", delete everything else when any song titles aside from "Stupid Love" are purely speculation at this point. If any of them are later confirmed to be part of the track list, though, then no prejudice against recreating those once we know that for sure. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 21:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:CRYSTAL/WP:MADEUP. I've seen redirects from non-existent songs before. R from songs need to be supported by properly sourced info in the target. Narky Blert (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Redirects for every track on every album is not necessary. Redirects from unsubstantiated titles on future albums is . Stop wasting time, guys. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all, given the possibility of two targets for the Six Feet Underground that don't really merit a dab page between them, and the imperfect fit for The Greatest Fight Muhammad Ali's Greatest Fight, I don't think that they're worth keeping. signed,Rosguill talk 23:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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West Suffolk Independent
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * West Suffolk Independent → Independent politician (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=West_Suffolk_Independent&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not discussed anywhere on the target page Utopes (talk / cont) 18:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment an article at this title was deleted at Articles for deletion/West Suffolk Independent (2nd nomination) in 2017. The redirect was created in early March this year, apparently independently of the previous article. Thryduulf (talk) 10:39, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned in the target, and a Google search turned up nothing I consider worth adding to the target. They are, if they still are anything at all, a handful of local politicians in West Suffolk who chose a group name in the run-up to the 2015 United Kingdom local elections. ("Independent" in English local politics is loosely equivalent to "unaffiliated Conservative".) Narky Blert (talk) 11:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not the same, and coverage is probably enough for a new article to be created. Peter James (talk) 11:54, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Cuprates
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Cuprate. signed,Rosguill talk 00:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Cuprates → Cuprate superconductor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cuprates&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to cuprate as the plural form. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, clearcut. Narky Blert (talk) 18:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 10:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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List of Big Brother 4 HouseGuests (Canada)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and refine to List of Big Brother 4 HouseGuests (Canada). --BDD (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of Big Brother 4 HouseGuests (Canada)">List of Big Brother 4 HouseGuests (Canada) → Big Brother Canada (season 4) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Big_Brother_4_HouseGuests_(Canada)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

All other similar articles are up for deletion in this AfD, if they are deleted then logically all redirects should be as well. Ajf773 (talk) 19:45, 22 March 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I don't follow the rationale of this nomination. Whether or not we think that we should have standalone articles listing HouseGuests for each seasons has no bearing on whether we should have a redirect by that title. From looking at the current target, there is indeed a list of HouseGuests included in that article, so it seems appropriate enough to me. signed,Rosguill talk 20:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 17:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. While the target exists this is a useful search term for it. If the target is deleted, then this redirect can be speedily deleted under WP:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 10:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Refine to Big Brother Canada (season 4). —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 03:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Fmaily Guy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Fmaily Guy → Family Guy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fmaily_Guy&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This spelling's plausibility is questionable, although I can see someone mixing up the and  keys, which are pretty far apart on a keyboard. Regards, SONIC  678  17:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible typo since the a and m keys are 7 spaces apart. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. This is more likly a typo from typing too quickly and accidently hitting  before  rather than mixing up the  and  keys. SSSB (talk) 09:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Heitai (disamguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  WP:SNOW. There is a current discussion Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heitai (disamguation)">Heitai (disamguation) → Heitai (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heitai_(disamguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Typo in the disambiguator. By the way, are these sorts of misspellings eligible for speedy deletion? TheAwesome Hwyh  17:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think this is eligible for WP:G6. Let me check the rules first. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. For the past 3.5 years, the redirect has had virtually no page history. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete by analogy with WP:RDAB.In my experience, G6 is inadequate to dispose of redirects like this. The deleting admin is often conscious of the "unambiguously" requirement. Narky Blert (talk) 21:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read MOS:LISTGAP for future reference. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 22:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per DPL bot's inability, but I do think that making the bot less stringently (disambiguation)-only is the way to deal with this, rather than deleting plenty of otherwise harmless redirects. —&thinsp; J 947  (user &#124; cont &#124; ess), at 22:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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The SImpsons
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Explicit sex
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Greatest common denominator
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Greatest common denominator → Greatest common divisor (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greatest_common_denominator&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Non existent concept D.Lazard (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete − Greatest common denominator is nonexistent as far as I know. Perhaps someone confused it with lowest common denominator.  In any case it is not the same as greatest common divisor.—Anita5192 (talk) 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. A quick search on google books seems to indicate that you are wrong. "Greatest common denominator" and "Greatest common divisor" are used interchangeably. "The greatest common factor (GCF), also known as the greatest common denominator or greatest common divisor, is the largest number..." Here are a couple more sources: Rreagan007 (talk) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - It exists and is the same thing. I was actually taught this concept growing up. Hog Farm (talk) 15:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. Some authors use effectively this term (3120 hits in Scholar Google, against 57,500 for "greatest common divisor", and 179,000 for "gcd). So, although the term is nonsensical, it must be referred to in WP. Thus I have added a footnote with an anchor to Greatest common divisor, and edited the redirect for redirecting to this note.
 * Therefore, as the nominator, I suggest to speedy close this RfD as keep. D.Lazard (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not eligable for a speedy keep as Anita5192 has recommended deleting this. There are also too few opinions expressed for it to be snowing. Thryduulf (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a problem with your solution of redirecting to that footnote. Unless you can provide a reliable source that says using the term "greatest common denominator" is "confusing and should be avoided", it constitutes WP:Original Research on your part and thus goes against Wikipedia policy. The proper thing to do here according to Wikipedia policy is simply to have this redirect direct to the article itself and include "greatest common denominator" in the lead in bold as an alternative term. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I would not be opposed to remove "should be avoided" and to replace "confusing" by "self-contradictory", but I strongly oppose to redirecting to the article itself, per WP:DUE: a minor and erroneous terminology must not have the same weight as the standard terminology. In any case, this is not the right place for this discussion. This shoud be resolved by a discussion on the talk page of the article after the closure of the RfD. D.Lazard (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that the footnote is OR. "Greatest common denominator" absolutely should not be included in the lead under any circumstances: we also have redirects from spelling errors, but those don't get included in the lead in bold for obvious reasons, and this is the same situation. --JBL (talk) 13:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This isn't a spelling error. It is an alternate term that is used in published sources and is more common than at least one of the other alternate terms that are currently bolded in the lead. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes obviously, it is using the wrong word rather than spelling a word incorrectly. The appearance of four bolded alternate names in the lead is really dumb since they just differ by trivial substitutions, I will try to fix it.  N-grams don't answer the important question here. --JBL (talk) 22:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I strongly suggest a separate names section as recommended by Wikipedia policy that I cite below. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per Hog Farms and Rreagan007. This is a widely used term. Thryduulf (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Meh and absolutely do not include the term in bold in the lead of GCD. The people who think this is widely used are just confused: it's just an error (mixing up "greatest common divisor" and "lowest common denominator") that gets repeated sometimes because it's easy to make, not a valid alternate term.  The people who say they learned this either are making the error themselves, or (less likely) had a teacher who made the error; but it is absolutely not an accepted term in any reliable sources (indeed, its inclusion would be a sign of unreliability). --JBL (talk) 13:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added Template:R from incorrect name to the redirect; hopefully this will resolve the issue. --JBL (talk) 14:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have any sources that say this is an incorrect name? If not, then it is merely your opinion. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have any sources that say it is a correct name? Because in fact you are wrong.  (And please note that I'm at least the third PhD mathematician to communicate this!) --JBL (talk) 15:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Here you go: . Now where are your sources? Wikipedia policy is very clear that information in articles is based on what can be verified by reliable, published sources. It's nice you have a PhD, but your argument from authority is a logical fallacy and completely irrelevant to this discussion. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The first source does not appear to contain the term, the second is obviously not a reliable source for terminology in mathematics (based on my googling, it seems that this error is most common among people writing about basic algorithms), and the third appears to include the term either as a typo or as a courtesy to people like you who get confused (it's a bit hard to tell). I am skeptical that any good source exists to say that this isn't a real thing because ... it's not a real thing; likewise no source exists to say that GCD does not mean "greatest cohomology derivative".  There is absolutely no possibility that the beginning of the GCD article will ever endorse the nonsensical and erroneous term "greatest common denominator" as an acceptable alternative, because it's not.  You might as well be putting the pronunciation "yoo-ler" into the lead of Leonhard Euler: an understandable mistake, and one made by plenty of people, but nevertheless a mistake.  --JBL (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, obviously, argument from authority can be fallacious in some applications but it need not be and is not in this case: when everyone with relevant expertise is saying the same thing, that is in fact a good sign that that thing is correct. --JBL (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, and it is for this reason that I have retargeted the redirect to a footnote. D.Lazard (talk) 14:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That footnote is filled with original research and your personal opinion unless you can back up the information there with a source. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that the footnote doesn't belong unless it can be sourced. --JBL (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well at least we agree on something. Since there are so many alternative names for this topic, perhaps a separate alternate terms section would be more appropriate than having so many alternate titles in the lead anyway. Per WP:Article Titles: "If there are three or more alternative names...a separate name section is recommended." And within that section, "greatest common denominator" could be mentioned along with a brief discussion on the differences/distinctions between "divisor", denominator", and "factor". Rreagan007 (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the sources and authorities, the term "greatest common denominator" isn't even well-defined and hence makes no mathematical sense.—Anita5192 (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree. It's pretty clear that the term "denominator" is just being used as a substitute for the word "divisor". And it isn't that hard to figure out why. A fraction can be thought of as a division problem, with the denominator acting as the divisor. From Wikipedia's article on fractions: "In terms of division, the numerator corresponds to the dividend, and the denominator corresponds to the divisor." Rreagan007 (talk) 22:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course the word "denominator" is being used as a substitute for the word "divisor". And of course the confusion is related to what you say (combined with the fact that, when adding fractions, one finds the least common denominator).  But that doesn't make the phrase a valid alternate name, it makes it a very understandable (and so apparently somewhat common) mistake.  --JBL (talk) 22:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it's a "mistake" is a matter of opinion. Regardless, just because you don't think the term makes sense doesn't mean that it's not a term that is used in published sources and taught in math classes, and thus should be included in the article. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it's a "mistake" is a matter of opinion. No, it isnot: mathematics is the rare place where one can say unambiguously whether a thing is correct or not, and this is not correct. It is not taught in math classes except possibly by mistake, and it is not used in published sources that are reliable for questions of mathematical nomenclature. --JBL (talk) 23:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It was the term taught to me throughout my grade school math classes, not by mistake, but because that is the term my grade school math textbooks used. And as I explain above, denominator and divisor can be viewed as interchangeable terms. This is not a math problem where there is a right answer and a wrong answer. These are language terms with arbitrary definitions, not prime numbers or the ratio of the radius of a circle to its circumference. As far as I am aware, there is no central mathematics language authority that determines what a mathematical concept will be called in English. All of the various terms for this same topic have arisen organically over time. This is an English language issue, not a mathematical issue. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:35, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No, this is not an English language issue, it is a mathematics language issue. There are many words that have a completely different meaning in mathematics and in English (for example field, ring, free module). A problem arise often when the mathematical meaning and the English meaning are close although different, or when there are two different mathematical meanings. This is the case here; see divisor (disambiguation): a divisor may be the second operator of a division; in this case, it can also be called a denominator if the division is represented by a fraction. On the other hand, a divisor may mean "an integer that divides evenly another integer". For this meaning, denominator is never used; using it in this sense would make mathematical texts as confusing as a text that would use "cat" instead of "dog". There is no source asserting that a dog must not be called a cat, and such a source is not needed in Wikipedia. In "greatest common divisor", the word divisor refers to the second meaning, and not at all to the first meaning. So, using denominator in this case, is definitevely an error. If this has been taught to you, this means that your teacher was a crank, or at least that he did not master the subject of his course. D.Lazard (talk) 14:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I meant English language in the sense that these are the English language terms we're dealing with here, not mathematical problems that have a right and wrong answer. And you again say that "denominator" is never used in this context is clearly wrong, as there are multiple sources that use it in this sense. All you have do is a simple Google search for "greatest common denominator" and you will find multiple mathematics-oriented websites that use this term. Wikipedia is meant to reflect the reality of how secondary sources use terms, not reflect your own personal opinions about which terms are the "correct" ones to be used and which ones don't make sense to you. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The comparison with prime numbers is instructive. The definition of the adjective "prime" has changed over time: someone who went to elementary school 20 centuries ago or so would have learned that 1 is prime.  The accepted modern definition of "prime" excludes 1; consequently our article about prime numbers excludes 1 as prime.  Similarly, the word "denominator" has a fixed meaning; that meaning is socially contingent (like the definition of "prime"), but at least at this moment it is completely standard among mathematicians.  The fact that you think you learned it can be used to mean something else carries no more weight than if you thought you had learned that 1 is prime (and it would not surprise me if the occasional elementary school teacher made this error).  The fact that some non-specialist sources likewise make the same error is good evidence of the uselessness of such sources for matters of mathematical nomenclature; it does not mean that our article should contain false statements.  (Of course, the primality of 1 is different in that there is a lot of literature discussing the change in definition, so one can write good encyclopedic content about the question.) --JBL (talk) 22:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep as a commonly used alternate name, even if it isn't technically correct. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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GM Specialty Vehicles
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Holden Special Vehicles. I believe this is an accurate read of consensus since that's where the sourced statement is, though as always, contact me with questions. --BDD (talk) 20:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * GM Specialty Vehicles → Walkinshaw Performance (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GM_Specialty_Vehicles&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided signed,Rosguill talk 21:37, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Is now Fecotank (talk) 10:22, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Holden Special Vehicles. The closest thing to the redirect title was that, and GM vehicles were mentioned continuously in that article. OcelotCreeper (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 17:21, 19 March 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The targeted article was updated with a sourced statement making the redirect more appropriate, but has not attracted any further comment since that change. Relisting one more time to determine if there's any consensus as to which of the two suggested targets are more appropriate.

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 * No objection to closing as keep now that there's a sourced mention. signed,Rosguill talk 00:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Meincraft
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Meincraft → Minecraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meincraft&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect seems like an unlikely misspelling, or possibly a very odd combination of German and English. (Maybe it's a Mein Kampf joke?) Anyway, it has approximately three page views per month, indicating that it's not really used. Not a very active user (talk) 10:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. As the ageing German sexologist said, "Mein Kraft ist Ebbing". Narky Blert (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also, as a minecraft fan (me being a fan is why my wiki name is what it is), it feels insulting in a way. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 16:37, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Minecraftland
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Minecraftland → Minecraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minecraftland&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Minecraftland" is not mentioned at the target, and there is no evidence that it is a commonly used term. Not a very active user (talk) 09:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, this redirect serves no purpose, likely created by a fan.  10:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not mentioned in target article, and shouldn't be. Only Google results I got were advertisements for minecraft servers. Hog Farm (talk) 15:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sounds more like a multiplayer server than a different name for minecraft. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 16:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Minecraftia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Minecraftia → Minecraft (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minecraftia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This, according to the redirect's history, is a fan nickname for Minecraft's world. The term doesn't, however, appear at the target page, and doesn't seem to be very commonly used. Not a very active user (talk) 09:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, Minecraftia seems like the name of someone's Minecraft world. We are an encyclopedia, and not here to document people's Minecraft worlds.  11:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably WP:MADEUP. Hog Farm (talk) 15:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. By being a redirect, it barely avoided an A7 or A11 since this sounds like the name of a multiplayer server. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 16:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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List of characters in the Halloween film series
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Halloween (franchise) characters. --BDD (talk) 20:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * List of characters in the Halloween film series → Halloween (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_characters_in_the_Halloween_film_series&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It's strange why this redirects here rather than anywhere about the Halloween franchise, the main page for which doesn't have a list of characters. Not sure where it should redirect, as I'm leaning towards finding a better target, but I'm tilting a bit towards delete if a better target can't be found. Regards, SONIC  678  06:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Halloween (franchise) characters. signed,Rosguill talk 20:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Bad Brexit
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Bad Brexit → Aftermath of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Brexit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This survived Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 16 in May 2019. As a connoisseur of Brexit-related invective (I've added two well-sourced entries to Glossary of Brexit terms), I propose deleting this one. I've only ever seen it used as descriptive adjective + noun; it has no special persistence or resonance; examples The Guardian, 2018, Jordan Times, 2019 and Financial News, 2020. It has been more often used as part of the self-explanatory "bad Brexit deal" (examples New European, 2020, The Guardian, 2020 and The Independent, 2019), which IMO is also not a significant enough term to deserve special mention in WP. Narky Blert (talk) 05:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unless you find reliable sources that refer to Brexit as Bad Brexit, and then put Bad Brexit into the Glossary of Brexit terms. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I may be wrong but I believe G8 only apples if the article itself is deleted and not just a section of an article being removed.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 18:20, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct, G8 does not apply where the target page exits even if the section does not. See my comment at . Thryduulf (talk) 21:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - There's no specific criterion for what constitutes a "good Brexit" versus a "bad Brexit" or a "mediocre Brexit", and there's also really no limit as to what we can have in terms of "[Descriptive Term] Brexit". If reliable sources had some kind of special meaning, well, that'd be one thing, but currently I'm in favor of deletion as well. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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Th4w
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Th4w → Ice Age (franchise) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Th4w&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was created back in 2009, when Ice Age: Continental Drift was still just a rumored sequel (with Th4w as the rumored title, which isn't mentioned anymore in the target or the pages about the third (where it was redirected about six months later to the section about the rumored sequel) or fourth movies). Plus, the sections it used to redirect readers to no longer exist, further invalidating its purpose. I'm leaning delete here, unless a justification can be provided or a better target can be found. Regards, SONIC  678  05:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, a quick google suggests that there is enough coverage of this to warrant a mention of this title either at the franchise article or at the Continental Drift article. If added this would be a perfectly good redirect to that mention, however, if that is not mentioned then its not helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 13:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete per WP:G8. It is dependant on a section of an article that no longer exists. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 16:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I may be wrong but I think G8 only applies to deleted articles not removed subsections of articles.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 18:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct. if the page a redirect targets exists it is not eligible for G8, even if the section does not. Sections get added, removed, split, merged and renamed all the time breaking redirects that target the section so it requires human judgement to determine whether the redirect is still valuable, so it is completely inappropriate for CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 20:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok then just delete, unless Th4w is mentioned as the original title in Ice Age: Continental Drift which in that case retarget. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 23:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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2021 Summer Olympics
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . WP:SNOW. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 2021 Summer Olympics → 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2021_Summer_Olympics&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

My move proposal had the result. So, is it very true that Tokyo 2020 will be held on summer next year? Why the hell is it? According to IOC, the 2020 Olympics will be held in 2021. It's official! St3095  (?)  05:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. These Olympics will still be marketed as the 2020 Olympics despite the postponement. Regards, SONIC  678  05:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong keep per Sonic678. --Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 06:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, pending developments. If the Olympics in 2021 does become known principally as "2021..." then the pages can be swapped. I suggest a note to this effect is put on the Talk page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong keep per the above. SSSB (talk) 10:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The "2021 Summer Olympics" redirect is fine because people are highly likely to search on that title given that the event is now taking place in 2021. The article title remains "2020 Summer Olympics" so that it matches the official moniker which remains Tokyo 2020. The IOC have stated that this is for "marketing and branding purposes". Presumably it would cost loads to change all the existing marketing materials, merchandise, etc. to say Tokyo 2021. Rodney Baggins (talk) 10:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keeep, people will be looking for the summmer olympics that happened in 2021, and therefore look for 2021 Summer Olympics. There should be a redirect there.  10:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Per all above. I'll also note that it sounds from nom's comments like they want the article to be moved to that title over the redirect, in which case this is the wrong forum and it should be speedily closed. Smartyllama (talk) 12:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep nom already tried requesting a move and it didn't work. As long as the article title is 2020, we need a 2021 redirect. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 12:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Africa is not a country
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Africa is not a country → Stereotypes of Africans (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Africa_is_not_a_country&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While I am well aware of the stereotypes about Africa being one country, I cannot imagine that this phrase is a likely search term for people searching for the topic. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - It seems to make more sense to simply let people search. Generally, we don't have redirects for statements against popular prejudices and widely-held misconceptions. There aren't 'Bisexuals are not promiscuous', 'Transgender people are not just trend seekers', 'Eldery individuals do not make for bad leaders', and so on. In the more mundane sense, historically, we don't have 'Hitler should not have invaded Russia' or 'America should not have elected Nixon' or whatnot. Hell, I could make the argument that 'Inflammable is not unflammable' actually might be justified, as a Simpsons reference, but it's not here. Deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I could add to but not improve on CWM's examples. Narky Blert (talk) 06:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see how this redirect could ever be used in the text of a page. Agree with comments above, not all the examples—I share just parts. —Foghe (talk) 15:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. We should also consider its sibling (which was accepted at AfC), Africa (country). (This is slightly more plausible, but I think CwM's logic holds for it as well.) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: I figured that I would weigh my opinion on the redirect you mentioned, because I approved that redirect yet listed this one after I discovered its existence. While none of the titles that CoffeeWithMarkets would be appropriate redirect titles, Africa (country) is not a statement, but is a topic with a qualifier, and one that has a suitable target being the section about the stereotype. So I would argue that these are completely different circumstances. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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East west cali
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * East west cali → Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=East_west_cali&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seemingly nonsensical; it looks like this was the previous title of the target article, but I'm not quite sure. TheAwesome Hwyh  03:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. Yes this was the original title, the page was moved in 2006
 * Delete. Chechen Republic of Ichkeria was deleted to make way for the move, and the article never mentioned the redirect, even when it was titled east west cali. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 03:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree this makes no sense (and the redirect has no useful history). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This makes no sense. Hog Farm (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, looks like it was vandalism combining unrelated pages, that was history merged when it should have been deleted. Peter James (talk) 09:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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Progressive Conservative Parrty
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%23Progressive Conservative Parrty

Republican Corea
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 8%23Republican Corea

Pupppies Puppies
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator  . (non-admin closure) Regards,  SONIC  678  03:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Pupppies Puppies → Puppies Puppies (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pupppies_Puppies&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

One too many, again. I supppose we should delete this one as well, eh? (Unless someone can provide a justification, that is) Regards, SONIC  678  03:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It hasn't been 6 months yet, so if you want to, you can tag it for R3 if you think it is implausible. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 03:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I can see this as a plausible typo. Puppppies Puppies would be where I would say delete. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 03:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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Brexshit
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Glossary of Brexit terms (withdrawn by nominator)  . (non-admin closure)  Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Not mentioned at target article. Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Brexshit → Aftermath of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brexshitn&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete - There are quite a bit of odd terms associated with 'Brexit', and most of them don't have any particular notability, being flash-in-the-pan bits of political jargon that go nowhere. I'm positive that things in the U.K. have caused lots of people to utter this, but in Wikipedia terms there appears to be no reason to keep it. Deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:38, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The fact that this term was used by the Columbia Journalism Review is a surprise. I'm now inclined to say that I'm neutral on the matter. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:43, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. I also want to mention that this was listed almost a year ago here []. They said to keep Brexshit since they would hear that word in reliable sources, however no mention of hearing the word used in Wikipedia in an article. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 02:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Glossary of Brexit terms, to which I've just added it with three solidly WP:RS citations from UK, USA and Continental Europe dating from 2016 to 2019. Narky Blert (talk) 05:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Narky Blert. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 12:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Narky Blert. Thryduulf (talk) 14:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Retarget per Narky, now that there actually is an article that explains the word Brexshit with reliable sources. Thanks. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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