Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 19

May 19
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 19, 2020.

Satyanathayati
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 26%23Satyanathayati

Melinda Salisbury
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 03:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Melinda Salisbury → The Sin Eater's Daughter (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melinda_Salisbury&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Salisbury is the author The Sin Eater's Daughter. There are just two articles that link to Melinda Salisbury, and both ALSO link to the book, in the same sentence. Redirection, in a case like this, is a disservice to readers. They should be left as redlinks. Creating a redirection is maddening to readers, who will ask themselves, ''"didn't I just read this? This wikipedia is a pile of crap because it repeats itself." '' It is also a disservice to the contributors who add new intellectual content, or keep our intellectual content up to date. Creating a redirect masks that there is a missing article. The redirection should be deleted, and left as a redlink, until someone writes the article on Salisbury. Geo Swan (talk) 22:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)''
 * Delete to encourage article creation per nom, I don't see why it would make sense to redirect the creator of a work to the work itself rather than the other way around, as per the rationale for this failed AFC/R proposal from February 2015. Regards, SONIC  678  00:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Pick Me Up Off the Floor (Norah Jones album)
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 03:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Pick Me Up Off the Floor (Norah Jones album) → Norah Jones (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pick_Me_Up_Off_the_Floor_(Norah_Jones_album)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redirect from doubly-disambiguated title for uniquely-titled forthcoming album Pam  D  22:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree it is indeed unnecessary (for the moment), but when album article are created, usually multiple redirects exist for the album. As an example, Manic (Halsey album) redirects to Manic (album). If the album name is unique (like this one) usually there'll be two redirects that lead to it. I created it (perhaps in haste), so that when an album article is created, this page could be retargeted there. I would start the article myself, but I'm still relatively inexperienced when it comes to creating album articles. Sean Stephens (talk) 01:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * (Just for the record, I'm sure you're aware of the processes regarding album articles, I thought I should probably explain why I created it.) Sean Stephens (talk) 01:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:CHEAP and tag as R from unnecessary disambiguation. Narky Blert (talk) 07:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

1990 Polish local elections
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 03:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * 1990 Polish local elections → Elections in Poland (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1990_Polish_local_elections&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 1994 Polish local elections → Elections in Poland (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1994_Polish_local_elections&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 1998 Polish local elections → Elections in Poland (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1998_Polish_local_elections&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The 1990 one should be a separate article, and the 1994 and 1998 ones are not mentioned in target Andrei (talk) 14:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Nugrape Twins
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Nugrape Twins → NuGrape (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nugrape_Twins&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I Got Your Ice Cold Nugrape → NuGrape (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I_Got_Your_Ice_Cold_Nugrape&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently this is a very old band with a very old song about some drink. Neither are mentioned at the article, so these redirects are unhelpful. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 01:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a lyrics database. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: it's not an artistic musical ensemble, it's a commercial for the beverage, its songs being ads. "I Got Your Ice Cold Nugrape" is the title of one of these ads, not just a line in a song. Hyacinth (talk) 18:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete for lack of information at target. Unlikely search terms for NuGrape. In passing, I also note that the NuGrape article itself has a sourcing problem. --Bejnar (talk) 04:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete; old ads that aren't mentioned in the target. Given the brand name is actually in both titles, it doesn't seem likely that a reader will search these after wondering "I wonder what brand the NuGrape Twins advertised..." ~ mazca  talk 15:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Molderland
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 29%23Molderland

Conque
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Conque → Conch (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conque&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RLOTE, no particular relationship between French and conch shells signed,Rosguill talk 21:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate (drafted) for conch (instrument) (which mentions "conque" as an alternative name in its lede) and the two people with the surname, with Conques in "See also". 59.149.124.29 (talk) 00:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Tobagonian parliament
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 26%23Tobagonian parliament

Brubach
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Justification provided, withdrawing discussion signed,Rosguill talk 21:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Brubach → Braubach (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brubach&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't find any evidence that this spelling is in common use, and note that this is the given German spelling for the town of Bruebach, a separate subject. It's also a surname, although the closest thing we have to an article about a notable person by that name is Murder of Tristan Brübach. I would suggest redirecting to Bruebach or possibly deletion if a justification for the current target can't be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That is the older spelling of the target, from which the surname itself is derived. Gotitbro (talk) 21:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not mentioned at the deWiki article for Braubach, but I do see a mention of a Burg Brubach very close to Braubach in the German article for Marksburg. With this in mind, I guess the above is a reasonable inference. signed,Rosguill talk 21:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Prime Minister of Tobago
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 26%23Prime Minister of Tobago

Edit pane
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 26%23Edit pane

User talk:Old unused account 101001
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Blanked.  WP:CSD would normally apply, as this is just misc. detritus from a "vanishing" of a never-used role account, and there's no significant history, but if someone ever tries to figure out what happened to the old User:Bureaucrats account, leaving this history makes it marginally clearer. No need to discuss this to death. If another admin feels a G7 deletion is somehow better, I won't argue with them, but surely no one could possibly think it needs to remain, and surely no one feels a long discussion is warranted. Floquenbeam (talk) 19:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)}}


 * User talk:Old unused account 101001 → Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Old_unused_account_101001&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why this redirects 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This used to be a "Bureaucrats" role account. Some context: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=848959703 28bytes (talk) 18:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This is one of those cases where a new editor should have simply asked the question at BN rather than just send it to RfD like a busybody. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Clearly implausible * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Wilde Stein Alliance for Sexual Diversity
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Wilde Stein Alliance for Sexual Diversity → University of Maine (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wilde_Stein_Alliance_for_Sexual_Diversity&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in article 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

HRSSFC
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * HRSSFC → Helena Romanes School and Sixth Form Centre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HRSSFC&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fails WP:DABACRO (but for an article) i.e. it is not defined in the target article, nor in the two refs, nor in a quick Google. Reccd delete Widefox ; talk 14:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Covid
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Coronavirus disease 2019. signed,Rosguill talk 21:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Covid → Coronavirus disease 2019 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Covid&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * COVID → Coronavirus disease (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COVID&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * CoViD → Coronavirus disease (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CoViD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * CoviD → Coronavirus disease (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CoviD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Here we have a case of multiple capitalizations of the same acronym targeting two different pages. All were originally created to target Coronavirus disease, but Covid was retargeted without a discussion on May 13. The default decision would be to revert the undiscussed retarget, and keep the targets as they were ("COVID" is, after all, more generic than "COVID-19"). The coronavirus disease article also has a hatnote directing readers to COVID-19 for easy reference. However, editors may wish to consider Bugsbunny100's rationale for their retarget: People looking for "COVID" are probably looking for COVID-19 in particular. In common speech today, "COVID" nearly universally refers to COVID-19 specifically. (See also: editors made strong arguments to WP:IAR in an earlier discussion on the similar Coronavirus outbreak redirect.) Options are to: 2) revert the undiscussed retarget, or 2) target all four redirects to Coronavirus disease 2019 at least temporarily due to current exceptional circumstances. I have not made up my mind on this one, so please consider this a neutral nomination; in any event, a speedy decision would be favourable due to ongoing high traffic at the listed redirects. Sharper {talk}
 * Retarget all to coronavirus disease per the unknown nom. A hatnote on the coronavirus disease would be useful. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Coronavirus disease 2019. With an emphasis on search results before December 2019, I see no indications that "Covid" (or any case variation thereof) refers to any other type of coronavirus disease. It thus appears that the current disease is the primary topic, and the term wasn't similarly used before, so there would be no ambiguity in such a retarget. ComplexRational (talk) 15:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Coronavirus disease 2019 as that's where the readers will want to go. I have enabled the redirects to point to their target before this RfD as otherwise heaps of readers are annoyed at a maintenance template. Feel free to revert me, but give justification. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 23:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Good call, thanks. Sharper {talk} 16:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Are You a Wikipediholic Test
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per G7. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Are You a Wikipediholic Test → Wikipedia:Wikipediholism test (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Are_You_a_Wikipediholic_Test&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XNR. It was previously deleted in 2006, but RfD was a much different place back then. -- Tavix ( talk ) 11:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XNR. Hog Farm (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per HogFarm and Tavix. Not sure why I created this. --Stay safe, ◊ <b style="color:#095">PRAHLAD</b> <sup style="color:#707">balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Mega Man (2017 TV series)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mega Man (2017 TV series)">Mega Man (2017 TV series) → Mega Man: Fully Charged (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mega_Man_(2017_TV_series)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The series came out on August 5, 2018, so this is not really a valid search result and an even worse link usage. Gonnym (talk) 11:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The series was originally slated for 2017 so there is evidence for the keeping the 2017 redirect. Captain Galaxy (talk) 15:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Captain Galaxy and (pageviews). — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 23:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Jack Powell (ruby player born 1882)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . There's consensus that this is a title sufficiently mangled by multiple mistakes that it's not likely to be helpful. ~  mazca  talk 15:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC) ~  mazca  talk 15:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jack Powell (ruby player born 1882)">Jack Powell (ruby player born 1882) → Jack Powell (rugby union) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jack_Powell_(ruby_player_born_1882)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Back in 2009, this page was moved to the correctly spelled Jack Powell (rugby player born 1882) (which is worth keeping because it shows the guy's birth year) because of the typo, which could potentially cause confusion with rubies, and possibly why this thing now only seems to get around 6-9 pageviews per year since July 2015. Regards, SONIC  678  04:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, useless to nominate or delete and occasionally helpful. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 05:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Triply-malformed qualifier. (1) Spelling mistake. (2) Missing comma. (3) "Rugby player" is ambiguous unless the subject played both codes, which Powell didn't. Narky Blert (talk) 07:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Narky Blert. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Steamed Hams
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 26%23Steamed Hams

Mossberry
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Thanks, Plantdrew! --BDD (talk) 19:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Mossberry → Cranberry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mossberry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I've been researching around on third-party sites for sometime now, and I am unable to find any exclusive connection between this term and its target. In fact, at the present time, this redirect is not mentioned in the target article. From what I have seen, this redirect's title could also refer to the subject in Empetrum nigrum or Vaccinium oxycoccos, which are not the direct subject of the target article. It seems like the term might be defined, but it seems like it has no exclusive target anywhere on Wikipedia. For this reason, unless an exclusive target is found, I recommend deletion, probably per WP:REDLINK. Steel1943 (talk) 18:36, 29 April 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Disambiguate. Place the DAB page in Category:Plant common name disambiguation pages, and mention this common name in both Cranberry and Empetrum nigrum. A RS source for both articles: "mossberry (noun) Any of various small berries growing on marshy ground or in mossy areas; specifically (a) a species of cranberry, Vaccinium oxycoccos, or its fruit; (b) North American regional (Alaska and Canadian) the crowberry, Empetrum nigrum, or its fruit." From Lexico (i.e. OUP). V. oxycoccus is the European cranberry. The OUP doesn't mention V. macrocarpon, the North American species; I don't know if that species also is called mossberry. Narky Blert (talk) 19:37, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I forgot to put the link to Vaccinium oxycoccos in my opening statement, and didn't get around to it until this edit. (RL got in the way.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * RL has an annoying habit of doing that. Narky Blert (talk) 22:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Elaine Nowick's "Historical Common Names of Great Plains Plants" is an excellent resource for plant common names (in spite of the title, it covers North American plants pretty broadly, not just those from the Great Plains). Nowick lists mossberry as a name for Moneses uniflora, Vaccinium macrocarpon and Vaccinium oxycoccus. The book can be downloaded here, indexed by scientific name and here, indexed by common name. Plantdrew (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Does anyone want to draft a dab? That might help form a consensus.
 * Disambiguate per the excellent research above. --Bsherr (talk) 21:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Apparently there was a revision of the article saying that Another name used in northeastern Canada is mossberry, which can be found in the Sensagent website. I don't know when that revision was though, and the statement wasn't cited. Pandakekok9 (talk) 10:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:19, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice against disambiguating should the name be mentioned in multiple articles. It seems to be an attested common name for multiple plants, but I'm not able to make heads and tails of how to make a disambiguation work while satisfying WP:DABMENTION. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, thanks Plantdrew! -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment draft created at Mossberry Plantdrew (talk) 01:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Eng Muhammad Ali Mirza
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was no consensus , perhaps keep, though the outcome is the same. --BDD (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Eng Muhammad Ali Mirza → Muhammad Ali Mirza (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eng_Muhammad_Ali_Mirza&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I do not understand the use of Eng in title? Engineer could have been fine because it is used with the name of Muhammad Ali Mirza. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 02:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete unnecessary.—  Hammad     (Talk!)   03:16, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PANDORA. --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 13:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per due to weirdly high views presumably from old links. — &thinsp; J 947  [cont] 01:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep those are some high view statistics. signed,Rosguill talk 04:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per pageviews, though I agree the "Eng" in the title is slightly confusing. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:49, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep In Afghanistan, and possibly other nations with low levels of literacy, "Engineer" is an honorific, like "Mullah", or the Christian "Reverend". In largely illiterate Afghanistan even totally illiterate individuals, like Mullah Omar, are honored by being called "Mullah", which means "learned man".  Being called "Engineer" doesn't guarantee that the individual is an actual engineer.  In general honorifics like Reverend, Mullah, or Engineer are not supposed to part of a BLP article title.  But redirections including honorifics are not uncommon.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There exists already a redirect Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza — Eng Mohammad Ali Mirza, who shall use Eng? Eng is not used for Engineer, rather for English. This'll remain out of use. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 17:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Obama Gates
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Obama Gates → Henry Louis Gates arrest controversy (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_Gates&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term; nobody mentioned in the article is named "Obama Gates". Page views suggest many have confused this with Obamagate ― Hebsen (talk) 23:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Useless and confusing. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:51, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.