Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 1

November 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 1, 2020.

Torching
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 10%23Torching

Kansas House of Representatives elections, 2010
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Kansas House of Representatives elections, 2010 → 2010 United States House of Representatives elections in Kansas (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kansas_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2010&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This would refer to elections to the Kansas House of Representatives rather than the US House. DemonDays64 (talk) 19:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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Shut Up (Ariana Grande song)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 09:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Shut Up (Ariana Grande song) → Positions (album) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shut_Up_(Ariana_Grande_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:R there's no purpose to this redirect. It is not standard practise for all songs on an album to have a redirect regardless of whether they have potential to be created or not. Its speculative and leads to the creation of non-notable articles later down the line. People are more likely to search for the album and its single not individual songs. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 19:24, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep – valid search term per WP:R. A reader might be looking for the song title on Wikipedia, this redirect would assist them in finding the album article instead for more information. Hayman30 (talk) 19:38, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as a valid and useful R from song. Such redirects aid searching and enable population of categories. If any get expanded into articles about WP:NN songs, then WP:PROD and WP:AFD await; and the almost inevitable result will be that they are turned back into redirects. Narky Blert (talk) 20:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't follow the nominator's rationale. Perfectly fine redirect. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as R from song. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with the above reasons. CountyCountry (talk) 08:46, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Joel Henry
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:21, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Joel Henry → Joël Henry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Henry&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirected to a disambig page where the only relevant entry was a recursive link. No valid article could be identified  Velella  Velella Talk 17:48, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, this seems like a textbook r from diacritic - it's extremely reasonable that anyone looking for a Joël Henry on an English keyboard is going to type Joel Henry. Even if one of the no-diacritic Joel Henrys around did warrant an article in future, I still think we'd be needing to seriously consider these articles together for disambiguation purposes, as in for example Pele (disambiguation). ~ mazca  talk 19:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as R to diacritic R ambig. Absolutely standard stuff, I've seen literally dozens of good redirects like this. I've added those tags myself. Narky Blert (talk) 20:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. The username of the editor who turned that longstanding redirect (created 2006) into a junk article which was recently blanked rings a bell; I've seen an editor with a very similar name do something very similar before. Narky Blert (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mazca and Narky. This longstanding redirect had redirected to its target for 14 years before converted it to an article about a questionably notable basketball player. For that reason, it should be taken back to its target as per the precedent for the non-umlaut titles redirecting to the entries on the target. Regards,  SONIC  678  20:46, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as r from diacritic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep as a plausible term of that target, so there is no evidence of why this redirect should be deleted. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 15:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Aleisha Allen
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Aleisha Allen → School of Rock (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aleisha_Allen&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Poorly used BLP redirect.This person is not just notbale for acting in school of rock. This former child actress has appeared in over 28 credits in tv show and movie appearances and is not mostly known for being in School of Rock. If this redirect is deleted I plan on making an actual article for this actress. ֆօʍɛɮօɖʏǟռʏɮօɖʏ05 (talk) 17:26, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation, and because Search gives better results. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, either to encourage article creation or to avoid giving the impression that we have useful coverage on something we don't. On a brief look I'm not completely sure there's enough good coverage about her to write an article that demonstrates notability, but that possibility should certainly be encouraged. It is definitely not helpful in this case to redirect an actress with lots of roles (even if minor) to one specific one. ~ mazca  talk 16:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Uknown God
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Uknown God → Unknown God (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uknown_God&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An implausible misspelling, with only 12 views in the last year. Delete. Narky Blert (talk) 15:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. A misspelling that is no more likely than missing out any other letter. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I'd also nominate Uknown, the only other redirect with this misspelling, which had 60 pageviews last year. Apart from those, there are exactly 18 other results on Wikipedia. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:05, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw, but IMO it needs its own nomination, separate from this one. I fixed the obvious typos you found; 2 remain in that search as possibly genuine. If you nominate (I would suggest per WP:REDLINK), I may well step in and !vote. Narky Blert (talk) 21:10, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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A.net
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:59, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * A.net → ArenaNet (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A.net&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This domain does no longer seem to be active; is there any benefit from retaining it as a redirect? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and remove hatnote. Not mentioned in article. There is no suitable entry at Anet (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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Springfield Lake Colchester
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Springfield Lake Colchester → List of lakes of Nova Scotia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Springfield_Lake_Colchester&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Springfield Lake (Colchester)">Springfield Lake (Colchester) → Springfield Lake (Annapolis) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Springfield_Lake_(Colchester)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I moved the article, it looks like "Colchester" was only there because it had been in the wrong section of List of lakes of Nova Scotia. Peter James (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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Smallest room
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) &#124; Americans, unite 02:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Smallest room → Toilet (room) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Smallest_room&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too ambiguous, could also refer to a pantry or a small closet. I would suggest either deletion or dabifying. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 20:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this is a euphemism for the target, not a simple description as a simple WP:BEFORE would have showed. Thryduulf (talk) 21:17, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 23:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this common euphemism. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:40, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to wikt:smallest room. Given the enormous number of euphemisms for toilets, the idea of listing them all at the target is a non-starter &mdash; and if this term is not going to be mentioned there then we should sent the reader to some place where it is. See also the similar RFD on Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 5. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 15:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:22, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - common euphemism. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I for one will start referring to my toilet in that way because it sounds like a crappier version of the Oldest House.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Commonplace British English, and the only meaning, Narky Blert (talk) 15:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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Right to organize
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Freedom of association. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) &#124; Americans, unite 02:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Right to organize → Freedom of Association and Protection of the Right to Organise Convention (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Right_to_organize&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Right to organize" can exist under national law (or sub-national law, or perhaps other international conventions), so this is not an appropriate redirect. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * How about Collective bargaining? I'm looking at the "International bargaining" section, which echoes language at the current target. I do understand your concerns, but wonder how likely we are to ever have a separate "right to organize" article. --BDD (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Freedom of association, which is about the general concept.  Hut 8.5  19:11, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Freedom of association as suggested by Hut seems sensible, and certtainly better than the current target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Freedom of association per Hut --Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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Orichalcos redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Orichalcos Doom → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orichalcos_Doom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Doom Orichalcos → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doom_Orichalcos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Orichalcos Duels → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orichalcos_Duels&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Seal Of Oricalcos → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Seal_Of_Oricalcos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * The Seal of Orichalcos → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Seal_of_Orichalcos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * The seal of Orichalcos → Yu-Gi-Oh! (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_seal_of_Orichalcos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Seal of Orichalcos → Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seal_of_Orichalcos&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Orichalcos Deuteros → Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orichalcos_Deuteros&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, likely a minor plot element. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 23:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure about the other ones but the The Seal Of Oricalcos is mentioned several times in the Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters (season 4) article.--70.50.207.171 (talk) 23:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Send them all to the Shadow Realm They are all unlikely search targets with barely any pageviews whatsoever. Trivial fancruft that should be removed. The Seal of Orichalcos and The seal of Orichalcos should also be deleted as well.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:55, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Commment Added two "Orichalcos" redirects that point to a different target. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 13:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * delete minor anime season plot point. The real card itself isn't notable in the TCG either. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * delete per Lenticel --Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 16:29, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
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Owning someone
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ownership. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 16:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Owning someone → Owned (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Owning_someone&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could refer either to slavery or owned (slang). I don't think it would make a good dab. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:35, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ownership which covers slavery and has a link to the slang. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:35, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fire Emblem Switch
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Fire Emblem video games. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) &#124; Americans, unite 02:12, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Fire Emblem Switch → Fire Emblem: Three Houses (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fire_Emblem_Switch&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are multiple possible targets, Three Houses and Warriors. In lieu of any obvious target, it should probably be deleted so the search function can be utilized. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:28, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Fire Emblem video games (1st choice) per the precedent for Mario Wii directing readers to the list of video games featuring him, or weak disambiguate (2nd choice) per that of Pokémon Wii and Pokémon Wii U. I'm not sure about the second, since so far there don't seem to be very many Fire Emblem games for the Switch... Regards, SONIC  678  02:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Fire Emblem video games, like Sonic678's suggestion. When I created the redirect, I linked it to the main Fire Emblem article as a Switch version was announced, but not yet 100% finalized. The fact that there are two Switch games in the Fire Emblem series, the list makes much more sense.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 02:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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