Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 24

November 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 24, 2020.

LOL JK
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 3%23LOL JK

Tkp.me
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus.  --BDD (talk) 16:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Tkp.me → Tokopedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tkp.me&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned on target page.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. It's a domain hack. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
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Temple of Victoria
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Temple of Victory  . (non-admin closure)  Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Temple of Victoria → Forum Holitorium (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Temple_of_Victoria&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Victoria" is not mentioned at the target, and it is not clear why this redirect points there. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom, or possibly retarget to Temple of Victory which seems to be known by this name some of the time.  Hut 8.5  18:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Temple of Victory (although that article could also be moved to this title). Deletion would be confusing to readers, who would expect to find an article about a corresponding temple using this title.  P Aculeius (talk) 14:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Temple of Victory has a hatnote to Forum Holitorium, which presumably refers to the "Temple of Juno Sospita [...] vowed by Gaius Cornelius Cethegus in 197 BC for his victory over the Insubrian Gauls". I assume many temples were constructed in honor of military victories, so in absence of a source, I don't think we need to worry about this usage. --BDD (talk) 16:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:53, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Temple of Victory. It is sometimes called the Temple of Victoria 1.
 * Temple of Victory seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME for the one on the Palatine [1 again] 2 3 4.
 * There are some modern, probably NN, edifices called Temple of Victory (Audley End, Harrogate, Kew, Knaresborough). Narky Blert (talk) 12:10, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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The Rhythmettes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  (pinging DiamondRemley39). Just to be clear, there's no prejudice against you starting a Draft:The Rhythmettes, but since this redirect has no edit history, there's really nothing to draftify here. If there had ever been an article here, so much as a single sentence, I would've been happy to send that draft space for you, but there hasn't been. --BDD (talk) 16:00, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The Rhythmettes → Optimistic Voices (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Rhythmettes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recommend deleting the redirect; see research performed by John Pack Lambert at Articles for deletion/Optimistic Voices. This redirect has no visible history as a full article, and someone may have decided to redirect a singing group name to a song that is believed to have been performed by them. But that song is from 1939 and the only documented group called the Rhythmettes was formed in 1950, and if they performed the song "Optimistic Voices" that is not necessarily a notable fact. There seems to be nowhere else to redirect the group name, unless the 1950s singing group has an article of their own someday. --- <b style="color:#3CB371"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 21:27, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify as the group meets WP:BAND 1 and 10. The earlier group of this name is documented in various places, including in Google Books. Follow the trail. According to 1, it was a trio that "gained some notice" in its time. On this page 2, we get the names of two Rhythmettes. We get the names Dorothy Compton and Mary Moder from that book. From their Wikipedia articles, we get names of other (supposed/likely) members who are individually notable, like Bonnie Poe and Mae Questel. From my newspapers.com search I get the name Betty Bruce and some others. We already know they performed Optimistic Voices, which is iconic even if it won't pass notability, and they also performed the vocals in the 3 Little Pigs film. It's to the point where I have enough clippings already that a legitimate draft of the Rhythmettes should be started. It can include a section with information on the older groups that it is not about. Draftify to vet statements and put together a narrative of the band. Pinging Toughpigs for his take--he is much more familiar with Disney of this era. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 11:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a discussion about the redirect because that's all the page title "Rhythmettes" does right now. It only makes sense to draftify if you are planning to write an entirely new article about the 1930s group, which would be the place to use the page title. --- <b style="color:#3CB371"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 19:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Guess I didn't make it clear: I intend to create an entirely new article about the group, so it makes sense to draftify it. Or it can be deleted and I'll just recreate it from scratch. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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The Expanse (season 6)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Expanse (TV series). (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Expanse (season 6)">The Expanse (season 6) → List of The Expanse episodes (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Expanse_(season_6)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:TOOSOON, no sixth season confirmed Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 18:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The sixth season has already been confirmed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * mhm, still kinda opposed to this redirect since there's no section of that page for season 6.Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 19:28, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Then I suggest redirecting it to The Expanse (TV series). Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:34, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to The Expanse (TV series) where it is mentioned. -2pou (talk) 15:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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Ring action
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 2%23Ring action

Wikipedia:ACE/C
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . — CYBERPOWER  (<span style="color:\#FF8C00">Around ) 16:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikipedia:ACE/C">ACE/C → Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019/Coordination (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ACE/C&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget WP:ACE/C to Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2020/Coordination or Arbitration Committee Elections December 2020/Candidates instead of Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019/Coordination. Opalzukor (talk) 16:44, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
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White Tanzanians
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 * The result of the discussion was restore  article (and retarget the second one). --BDD (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * White Tanzanians → Demographics of Tanzania (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_Tanzanians&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Whites in Tanzania → White Africans of European ancestry (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whites_in_Tanzania&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as misleading redirects. None of the targets contains information about the past or present white or European population in Tanzania. Place Clichy (talk) 10:26, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore White Tanzanians to article without prejudice to AfD. Whether it is notable is disputed, but it has never been discussed anywhere other than edit summaries of varying politeness. This nomination appears to be in good faith, but a discussion about the article content needs to happen and RfD is not the place. Retarget Whites in Tanzania to the restored article. Thryduulf (talk) 15:31, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore/retarget per Thryduulf. RfD is not the place to delete content. (That article could probably be expanded. There's also German East Africa, Tanganyika and Zanzibar, among others, to consider.) Narky Blert (talk) 12:17, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fondazione Niccolò Cusano
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 2

Portal:Brazil/box-footer
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 2%23Portal:Brazil/box-footer

Redirects using "Flim"
<span id="Office of Flim and Literature Classification (Australia)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 1%23Redirects using "Flim"

Symmetry C
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 2%23Symmetry C