Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 10

September 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 10, 2020.

Sweat Engine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Article was deleted at Articles for deletion/Sweat Engine, now just recreated as a redirect to a compilation album of questionable notability. The band has a track on a few other comps, whose articles were all created by the same person. WP:XY. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:45, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sweat Engine → Below San Onofre (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sweat_Engine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete consistent with the AfD and the fact that the current target has no substantive information about the band. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Carryall (van)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Carryall (van) → Carryall (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carryall_(van)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused parenthetical redirect. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:24, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I assume per WP:NOTBURO I can also add that what existed before I redirected it should be deleted too, since it was little more than a poor man's duplication of what we already had at Carryall. FDW777 (talk) 22:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unless I'm missing something, this is a plausible R from unnecessary disambiguation. – Uanfala (talk) 22:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uanfala. This seems to be a valid R from unnecessary disambiguation. Not a very active user (talk) 04:11, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Classic R from unnecessary disambiguation. Narky Blert (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. R from unnecessary disambiguation at its finest. Steel1943  (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and Rcat per above. Plausible search by someone who knows that caryall can mean more than one thing. Hog Farm Bacon 21:02, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Neo FIlms
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 * The result of the discussion was delete mis-spelled, retarget others  . — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Neo FIlms → Viva Films (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neo_FIlms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Falcon FIlms → Viva Films (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falcon_FIlms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Falcon Films → Viva Films (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falcon_Films&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Neo Films → Viva Films (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neo_Films&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Neo" or "Falcon" at the target; searching online for the former mostly returns results about a seemingly unrelated Greek company, for the latter an also seemingly unrelated company. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 15:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Adding two more related redirects. signed,Rosguill talk 16:52, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:58, 25 August 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Seventyfiveyears (talk) 20:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC) Weak Retarget the other two to Viva Entertainment, where they are at least mentioned (although unreferenced), making a better target (if not deleted). FWIW: this logo at least links Neo and Viva Entertainment, although it's a fandom site. -2pou (talk) 21:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'm not fond of multiple relists, but am hoping we can get further input on 2pou's suggestions. If these are truly Viva Films subsidiaries, we should probably mention there, but retargeting to the parent company seems acceptable.
 * Delete at least the two miscapitalized "FIlms" redirects as unambiguous errors since they're newly created and unlikely to be harmful deletions.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 22:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete the misspelled ones, which are pretty much useless, since the search bar is not case sensitive. Retarget the two others per 2pou, as they are mentioned at the suggested target. Not a very active user (talk) 12:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Draft:Donald J. Trump
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Draft:Donald J. Trump → Donald Trump (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Donald_J._Trump&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, similar to last month's discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 20, though in this case there is a small amount of history from what looks like an attempt, via user sandbox, to fork the article into an attack page. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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WMF Labs
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Wikimedia Cloud Services. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * WMF Labs → Wikimedia Foundation (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WMF_Labs&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not really mentioned at target; suggest retageting to Wikimedia Cloud Services, where WMFLabs and Wmflabs point already. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 21:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose retargeting; current mainspace target is superior to a cross-namespace redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, to be consistent with other similar redirects and also because the suggested cross-namespace target provides more information about WMF Labs than the current target. Not a very active user (talk) 04:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. It's a simple spelling variant (and different spellings pointing to different places is a recipe for confusion). Narky Blert (talk) 12:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. Cross-namespace redirects are not inherently harmful, the potential problems come when someone searching for encyclopaedic information lands in project-space. However there is no encyclopaedic topic with this or a similar name so the chance of that happening is very slight, and combined with the lack of any appropriate location in articlespace for a hatnote the CNR to the perfect location wins out. Thryduulf (talk) 21:59, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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List of superstitions
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 * The result of the discussion was restore list  without prejudice to AfD signed,Rosguill talk 16:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * List of superstitions → Superstition (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_superstitions&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While I think the topic is notable, it is clear that others disagree. Fine. But as a redirect, it simply doesn't fly, per WP:PLA. No such list at target or anywhere. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: This redirect is a R with history. Steel1943  (talk) 10:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Since this redirect has a history, I think it would be best to restore the list and take it to AfD. Not a very active user (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. I'll wait for discussion here to be closed. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 14:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete since the target article contains no list. However, the template Superstition exists and might add to that template any useful material from the previous version of the redirected/deleted list. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore list without prejudice to AfD. It's clear there is disagreement about whether this should be a list or not, and the place to discuss that is on the talk page or at AfD, not RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 22:10, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore list per Thryduulf. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore list; to delete would only compound the deletion-by-redirection, which should be reversed. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:03, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Draft:Diprotium monoxide
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Draft:Diprotium monoxide → Dihydrogen monoxide parody (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Diprotium_monoxide&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Improper use of the draft prefix, created as a WP:XNR, no page history for this redirect. Hog Farm Bacon 20:32, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom or Move to mainspace per National Center for Biotechnology Information (2020). PubChem Compound Summary for CID 5460604, Diprotium oxide. Retrieved September 10, 2020 from https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Diprotium-oxide making it a plausible redirect, clear intent of page-creator to have a mainspace redirect (see Talk:Dihydrogen monoxide parody). Arguments for outright deletion:  1) The term is not in the target even after an attempt was made to add it, and 2) Compared to other alternative names listed in the target, it comes up much less often in a Google search - roughly 300 results vs. roughly 70,000 results for  and more for  and, see also Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 24.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  21:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete although it is acceptable to suggest redirects in draftspace, this term is not mentioned in the target (apparently lacking RS / due weight). (t &#183; c)  buidhe  12:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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"Jungle Book" redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete 2017, keep 2018  . — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Jungle Book (2017 film)">The Jungle Book (2017 film) → Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Jungle_Book_(2017_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Jungle Book (2018 film)">Jungle Book (2018 film) → Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jungle_Book_(2018_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are no 2017 or 2018 films named "Jungle Book". There is a 2018 film named "Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle", but I'm not 100% accurate if we should keep the 2018 one. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 20:07, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per nom, there are no 2017 or 2018 films named "Jungle Book", and so these redirects are misleading. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep 2018 film, the article's lead describes it as a "new Jungle Book film" so this is a plausible search term. Delete 2017 as the year is inaccurate. signed,Rosguill talk 16:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and keep respectively, per Rosguill. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete 2017 and keep 2018 per Rosguill and BDD. -2pou (talk) 19:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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Democratic tickets
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Involved close, I'm ok with acceding to keep here. signed,Rosguill talk 16:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Democratic tickets → List of United States Democratic Party presidential tickets (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Democratic_tickets&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Republican tickets → List of United States Republican Party presidential tickets (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republican_tickets&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A bit too vague to be useful (contrast Democratic party tickets), I'd suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 16:14, 31 August 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I can see how these would hypothetically be vague, but would want to see competing usages before I could support deletion. --BDD (talk) 19:16, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see no evidence of the term "Democratic ticket" or "Republican ticket" being used outside the US. There do exist tickets for state gubernatorial elections, but the presidential ticket is arguably a primary topic. In any case I see no difference between this and Democratic party tickets. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 20:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep per King of Hearts. Not vague enough, since there is no evidence that these terms are used anywhere else. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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Glass dick
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:35, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Glass dick → Bong (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glass_dick&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See Dildo, there's other things "glass dick" could refer to. Hog Farm Bacon 17:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:XY. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neither the current target nor the nom's alternative use the term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:29, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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LEGO: The Adventures of Clutch Powers 2
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:35, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * LEGO: The Adventures of Clutch Powers 2 → List of Lego films and TV series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LEGO:_The_Adventures_of_Clutch_Powers_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See this rfd 5 months ago. Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 17:42, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Well that was a big mess up. Ocelot Creeper  ( ta lk ) 17:45, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, still holds true. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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Darren Douglas
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 17%23Darren Douglas

Welch language
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Welch language → Welsh language (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Welch_language&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Brand newly created, "Welch" is an archaic spelling of "Welsh", but per WP:PANDORA, there's no reason to create redirects to every page that contains "Welsh" in the name replaced with an archaic spelling. The dab page at "Welch" already indicates this. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 16:50, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If archaic spelling is inappropriate, then why we have Scotch language redirecting to Languages of Scotland? It should be deleted as well (there should be no citing of WP:OTHER since we are talking about redirect deletion here, not article). --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Usually WP:OTHERSTUFF applies to any sort of deletion discussion, including those about redirects. Though not explicitly stated, there is also no indication that RfDs should be an exception. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete (was Neutral): I created this link after a request at AFC. I researched it first and found an 1816 book, An English and Welsh vocabulary: or, An easy guide to the antient British language. To which is prefixed, a grammar of the Welsh language, by T. Richards. Also, A dissertation on the Welsh language, by J. Walters.  However, Google search results and Google Books have it mis-titled as An English and Welch vocabulary: or, An easy guide to the antient British language. To which is prefixed, a grammar of the Welch language, by T. Richards. Also, A dissertation on the Welsh language, by J. Walters which fooled me (search, book).  I was going to be "neutral" until I realized I'd been fooled - along with a lot of other people - by a bad transcription.  It's a "weak" delete because the term still pops up in unrelated search results (search, example).    davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  17:17, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as a standard R from obsolete spelling: well attested in the older literature  . – Uanfala (talk) 17:22, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirects are there to aid linking and searching. Anyone searching for information on the Welsh language is  going to be spelling it like this.  At best, they simply don't know that "Welch" is an archaic spelling of "Welsh", but Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and it's inappropriate to create redirects for every possible obsolete/archaic spelling variant of every word that was ever used.  As I already mentioned, the dab page at Welch already lists this fact, and that's more than enough for our purposes. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 17:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * We very definitely do create redirects for attested historic spellings. This redirect is not for readers who come with the intention of reading about the Welsh language, but for those who encounter this particular term in the literature and come here to check what it is (or to double-check it is what they believe it is). I don't see the relevance of the page Welch and its mention, buried very deep, of this alternative spelling – readers who search for "Welch language" will not land at that page. – Uanfala (talk) 17:48, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uanfala. I will never understand how in the world PANDORA applies to an attested alternative spelling, but there you go. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:43, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep: Attested archaic spelling, what's wrong with that? "it's inappropriate to create redirects for every possible obsolete/archaic spelling variant of every word that was ever used" with a link to WP:PANDORA? Why is it inappropriate? These are helpful redirects; I encourage editors to create other similar redirects, and I have no idea how PANDORA is supposed to apply here. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The user who requested that this be created did not understand that we only need the single archaic Welch, which is why there are no redirects for Welch people, Welch mythology, Welch Government, etc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:02, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. How in the world is this redirect harmful in any manner? — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:10, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, a valid R from obsolete spelling. Not a very active user (talk) 04:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per others who observe this is a valid term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:34, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uanfala, J947 et al. Thryduulf (talk) 21:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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User:Blue Line (Namma Metro)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  by Fastily per WP:U2 (non-admin closure) –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 17:25, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="User:Blue Line (Namma Metro)">User:Blue Line (Namma Metro) → Draft:Blue Line (Namma Metro) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Blue_Line_(Namma_Metro)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Erroneously created by new user moving article John B123 (talk) 16:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:U2, I've tagged the redirect for CSD. Hog Farm Bacon 16:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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2019–20 California energy crisis
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="2019–20 California energy crisis">2019–20 California energy crisis → 2019 California power shutoffs (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019%E2%80%9320_California_energy_crisis&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * リダイレクト先の記事 で には 2020年の内容 が  は どこにも書かれていないため、 "2019–20" という記事名は不適切. / This article only mentions 2019, so wrong the title "2019–20".  The article title "2019–20" is inappropriate because the portion of 2020 is nowhere mentioned in the target article. Portal18 (トーク  | 投稿記録)‎  10:04, 3 September 2020 (UTC) / Corrected English text. Portal18 (トーク  | 投稿記録)‎  23:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC) / Corrected Japanese text (grammar only). Portal18 (トーク  | 投稿記録)‎  08:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Assuming this has gone into 2020—I thought so, though I don't follow the issue closely—it would be better to expand the article, and perhaps move it to this title. I thought about Energy in California as a potential target, though it doesn't really discuss this. --BDD (talk) 15:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * English translation of the nom's rationale: The article title "2019–20" is inappropriate because the portion of 2020 is nowhere mentioned in the target article. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 18:01, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Portal18 (トーク | 投稿記録)‎  23:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete These shutoffs were intended to prevent fires and it seems they are likely to continue as time goes on. They are likely to happen around the same time each year (late summer or fall), so the shutoffs for the two years are not connected. Unless someone changes the title and the scope to reflect all California public safety power shutoffs, this redirect is not helpful. — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 17:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Delete, the target article doesn't really discuss events in 2020. Unless the article is expanded to cover 2020, this redirect isn't very helpful. Not a very active user (talk) 12:37, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Invest 99-L
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The Center for Global Ministries
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Ranpat falls
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Eddie Gilstrap Motors Fall Classic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Eddie Gilstrap Motors Fall Classic → Kentuckiana Ford Dealers 200 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eddie_Gilstrap_Motors_Fall_Classic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These races appear to be distinct, although held at the same location. No mention at the target. Note that Eddie Gilstrap Motors ARCA Fall Classic redirects to ARCA Menards Series and appears to refer to the same subject, although it's not mentioned by name there either. I would weakly lean towards redirecting to ARCA Menards Series on that basis. signed,Rosguill talk 15:46, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - "Eddie Gilstrap Motors" is the former sponsor of the race which could generically be called the Fall Classic or Fall Classic 200. This redirect was probably created since the 2019 edition was called the "Kentuckiana Ford Dealers Fall Classic 200". Unless something about this race can be added to the existing target (since they are both ARCA races held at Salem Speedway), then I would suggest deletion since there is no mention at current target or at ARCA Menards Series. Eddie Gilstrap Motors ARCA Fall Classic should be deleted too. A7V2 (talk) 00:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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Primera Plastics 200
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List of Barney & Friends CD Roms
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:29, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of Barney & Friends CD Roms">List of Barney & Friends CD Roms → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Barney_%26_Friends_CD_Roms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such list exists on enwiki, to the best of my knowledge. Hog Farm Bacon 15:39, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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Banrey and Firends
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Cabayi (talk) 09:46, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Banrey and Firends → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Banrey_and_Firends&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The double error crosses the line into implausbility, IMO. Created by blocked sock. Hog Farm Bacon 15:38, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: created for disruption. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per G5. The account was created on December 26, 2010, while the sockmaster was blocked on November 20 that year. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Ron the Clumsy Yak
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:29, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Ron the Clumsy Yak → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ron_the_Clumsy_Yak&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

If enwiki has content on this subject, I ain't finding it. Hog Farm Bacon 15:35, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Yep, this does not appear to be a thing or a character in anything at all. Thrashunreality (talk) 02:17, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete appears to be a hoax or joke by a one-edit editor over a decade ago. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  02:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Draft:Dora the explorer
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Demonic Dinosaur
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Demonic Dinosaur → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demonic_Dinosaur&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't seem to quite meet WP:G10, but I don't think this is a great redirect to keep around. Hog Farm Bacon 14:38, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: The title "Demonic Dinosaur" doesn't seem to be used in this context at all and clearly fails to meet WP:N requirements. The redirect also leads people away from real articles such as Demons and Dinosaurs and Devil Dinosaur. TXAggie (talk) 02:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Barney... Let's Imagine Tour in Manila
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Barney... Let's Imagine Tour in Manila → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barney..._Let%27s_Imagine_Tour_in_Manila&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article. Only seems to be mentioned at List of entertainment events at the Araneta Center, in a table that only gives the dates and name of the show. I guess we could retarget there, but deletion seems better. Hog Farm Bacon 14:37, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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God Bless America, that Barney's dead
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="God Bless America, that Barney's dead">God Bless America, that Barney's dead → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_Bless_America,_that_Barney%27s_dead&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Enwiki has no content about this little ditty. Hog Farm Bacon 14:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Very weak retarget to Anti-Barney humor (what this thing smells of) or delete. I don't know if it would really be associated with criticism so much as insults. Regards, SONIC  678  16:04, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Barney Got Shot By G-I Joe
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Barney Got Shot By G-I Joe → Barney & Friends (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barney_Got_Shot_By_G-I_Joe&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Enwiki has no content about G-I Joe shooting Barney. Hog Farm Bacon 14:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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Moooon
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Many thanks to the IP for adding this to the target. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Obscure synonym. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 14:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Moooon → Subsatellite (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moooon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete. So obscure that I can't even find a single reference to it anywhere. It's more plausible as a typo for "moon" for someone with a sticky  key, but even that's pretty implausible.  (We don't even have one with 3 O's, which I probably shouldn't mention per WP:BEANS, but whatever). –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:28, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Seems I created this WP:Redirect some time ago (11 October 2018) - at the time, there may have been a very good WP:RS suggesting "moooon" as another name for a "moon of a moon", or Subsatellite - although I found these references,  I'm unable to locate an even better WP:RS reference at the moment - *entirely* ok with me to do whatever WP:CONSENSUS decides of course - Drbogdan (talk) 14:45, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - There's reliable sources like Smithsonian (magazine), which I've added to the target. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 00:40, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thank you *very much* for finding this "WP:RS" "Smithsonian (magazine)" reference - this reference (published on 11 October 2018) is likely the one that had inspired me to create the "Moooon" redirect on the same date (ie, 11 October 2018) - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 01:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, now mentioned at the target, with a source. Not a very active user (talk) 04:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


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File:I’m Thinking Of Ending Things poster.jpeg
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