Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 11

September 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 11, 2020.

Cultural Marxist
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. signed,Rosguill talk 18:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Cultural Marxist → Frankfurt School (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cultural_Marxist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Propose redirect to Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory per this discussion. The page itself is protected so I can't tag it or redirect manually. BlackholeWA (talk) 23:10, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: RFD tag added to page on September 13. - Eureka Lott 15:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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European+Union
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:48, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * European+Union → European Union (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=European%2BUnion&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Who would use a + instead of a space? TheAwesome Hwyh  20:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a very common rendering in URIs and search queries to avoid the %20 for a space (it's exactly equivalent to the way MediaWiki uses an underscore). This means it is very plausible for someone to copy and paste this string into the search or address bar assuming that our URIs work that way. We shouldn't premeptively create them but if someone does create them there is no benefit to deleting them absent specific problems with an individual redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Very+strong+keep+per+above.+I+encourage+people+to+create+maintenance+redirects+like+this. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:58, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, since anyone can copy and paste this string into the search bar. While not implausible, I strongly oppose the need to encourage anyone to create these types of redirects, and we shouldn't preemptively create them as per Thryduulf above. CycloneYoris talk! 01:28, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Clearly an implausible redirect. 2-word titles that use "+" instead of "_" would make it look like a compound word. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf – this is a helpful and harmless redirect. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete If a reader copies this search phrase from a url bar and gets taken to the desired article they will likely assume this to be a feature of searching rather than a trick enabled by one idiosyncratic redirect. The danger is that if they try that with something else (say, blue+cheese) and not land at the desired article they may assume that such an article does not exist. Seventyfiveyears also makes a good point about. – Uanfala (talk) 21:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * FWIW, that's only a problem when searching in the URL bar – if the internal search function or a general search engine is used for a search of blue+cheese, blue cheese comes up as the first result and no harm is caused. I think that the PANDORA problem is a comparatively minor problem (most readers, I think, would not assume that + redirects always are there from just one example – and they would very likely just use a space rather than a plus in subsequent searches as it is more usual and easier to type; URL copying is hardly a common thing), and that the amount of readers helped outweighs that small possibility of confusion. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That's true: when using the search bar the desired page comes on top of the list. But you know, if this is easy for blue+cheese, it is equally easy for European+Union, isn't it? You're also right that the vast majority of readers won't search using the URL, but if we're going to keep a redirect whose sole purpose is to help readers who copy from the URL bar, then maybe we should allow the possibility that some of those very same readers may also paste into that URL bar, no? – Uanfala (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I suppose (the langauge argument...). But I think that it is as likely for a reader to type en.wikipedia.org/wiki/xxx+xxx and assume there is no article about xxx xxx (because that's a standard format) encountering a previous redirect using a . Simply deleting all redirects with  separators in them helps no one, whereas keeping this one has helped ~1000 at a slight risk of confusing them later. I don't have the time to elaborate, but there are some unusual alternative options (editnotice, autoredirects, bot creates 25 million-odd redirects) that are better than the keep or delete scenarios IMO – but I believe that keeping this redirect is a better result than deleting it. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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Halloed
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The Midnight Raymond Chandler
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The Midnight Raymond Chandler → Raymond Chandler (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Midnight_Raymond_Chandler&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article or in Raymond Chandler bibliography, leaving readers searching for these terms left with finding no such information. Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * This is the title of a 1971 compilation of two novels and four short stories by Chandler, ISBN 0395131529. - Eureka Lott 20:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Main Page (disambiguation)
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Messiah ben David (Christianity)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Messiah ben David (Christianity)">Messiah ben David (Christianity) → Jesus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Messiah_ben_David_(Christianity)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused redirect that started more or less as a CFORK of Christ (title) and was subsequently redirected. No incoming links. Ibadibam (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I cannot find sources which use this as an alternative name for Jesus. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unplausible search term. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Speech and Speech Disorders
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Speech and Speech Disorders → Speech (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speech_and_Speech_Disorders&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY: Speech disorder is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 16:10, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This (badly capitalised) redirect may cause confusion if targeted at one article or the other. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:38, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Drusus Claudius Nero II
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Drusus Claudius Nero II → Nero Claudius Drusus (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drusus_Claudius_Nero_II&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There was no "Drusus Claudius Nero I", so this redirect is misleading. ★Trekker (talk) 14:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 06:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Drusus Claudius Nero (grandfather of Tiberius)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Drusus Claudius Nero (grandfather of Tiberius)">Drusus Claudius Nero (grandfather of Tiberius) → Tiberius Claudius Nero (grandfather of Tiberius Caesar) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drusus_Claudius_Nero_(grandfather_of_Tiberius)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This name is a mistake. ★Trekker (talk) 14:01, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 06:01, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Drusus Claudius Nero I
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Drusus Claudius Nero I → Tiberius Claudius Nero (grandfather of Tiberius Caesar) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drusus_Claudius_Nero_I&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This name is a mistake, this man was not named this. ★Trekker (talk) 14:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 06:01, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Drusus Claudius Nero (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted G14.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Drusus Claudius Nero (disambiguation)">Drusus Claudius Nero (disambiguation) → Drusus Claudius Nero (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drusus_Claudius_Nero_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no use for this page. ★Trekker (talk) 13:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G14. Hog Farm Bacon 14:21, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Drusus Cladius Nero (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted G14.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Drusus Cladius Nero (disambiguation)">Drusus Cladius Nero (disambiguation) → Drusus Claudius Nero (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drusus_Cladius_Nero_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no need for this disambiguation the name "Drusus Claudius Nero" only refers to one person. ★Trekker (talk) 13:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support deletion of all aforementioned "Drusus Claudius Nero" pages. They were apparently named in error and there was never more than one person referred to as such, so the disambiguation is unnecessary. Avis11 (talk) 15:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. This seems to fall under WP:G14. --Dps04 (talk) 04:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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2020 ICC World Twenty
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * 2020 ICC World Twenty → 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_ICC_World_Twenty&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Highly doubt someone would make this mistake. HawkAussie (talk) 11:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment the tournament was originally scheduled to take place in 2020, so if it is plausible to refer to the tournament as the "ICC World Twenty" (I don't know) then the redirect should be kept as someone not knowing it was postponed or following links from before it was rescheduled would plausibly look under this title. Thryduulf (talk) 00:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep because let's be honest, nobody really calls it the ICC Men's T20 World Cup outside of journalism and the like; I've grown up calling it the "World T20", and so "World Twenty20" is a perfectly normal title for a redirect. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 03:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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ꞯ
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:27, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="ꞯ">ꞯ → Small caps (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%EA%9E%AF&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Might also refer to Voiceless upper-pharyngeal plosive, or to Japanese phonology (which currently simply uses a capital Q), the original target of the redirect, which has been changed by. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:23, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambig. Almost all single unicode characters outside the private use area should be blue links. If there are multiple things that this could refer to and none are primary then the correct course of action is to disambiguate. Thryduulf (talk) 00:13, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This should not be disambiguated but converted into an article like other letters of the Latin alphabet. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you can write an article about this character then go ahead, but unless and until that happens disambiguation is best. Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment What should this character look like? It does not render on my system. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:33, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Likewise (Safari, macOS 10.15.6). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:45, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * the character is U+A7AF "LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL Q", which should give some indication of the expected display but there is also a picture at . I'm not sure why that is relevant though? Thryduulf (talk) 21:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Cultural Marxism
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 * The result of the discussion was retargeted. Per Talk:Frankfurt School#Split?.   &#8211;  MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 15:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Cultural Marxism → Frankfurt School (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cultural_Marxism&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is fully protected after a 2014 deletion discussion, but per consensus at Talk:Frankfurt School, a separate article has been created for the conspiracy theory, Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. This should redirect there. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  10:16, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. The suggested target has more information about the conspiracy theory than the current target, which mentions the conspiracy theory exactly once, in the "See also" section. Not a very active user (talk) 12:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've never closed an RfD so I'll leave that to someone else, but this is ✅. Sam Walton (talk) 15:37, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Idaho (Cosmo's Midnight song)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . no valid reason for deletion presented (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  12:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * <span id="Idaho (Cosmo's Midnight song)">Idaho (Cosmo's Midnight song) → Cosmo's Midnight (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Idaho_(Cosmo%27s_Midnight_song)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Only contains 2 members, both redirects back to the artist page. Richhoncho (talk) 10:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is an R from song that is mentioned at the target. It is unclear how the the nomination statement invalidates the helpfulness of this redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 10:46, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: per Steel1943. Unclear nomination rationale. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Feminism in Indonesia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:27, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Feminism in Indonesia → Gerwani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Feminism_in_Indonesia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A single organization, Gerwani, can not represent the entirety of feminism in Indonesia. Please delete as a redlink will encourage page creation. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:39, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This link from Feminism in Indonesia to Gerwani was originally a piped link, added in 2017 (not by me), in Feminism sidebar. In 2018 I created this redirect to replace the piped link. I can't see any benefit in creating a redlink. Many redirects have been expanded into full articles - that's part of their purpose. Better to leave it in place and tag it with R with possibilities. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:56, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe a retarget to Women in Indonesia would be better, as the current target is not representative enough. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that seems like a better target. That change, along with the proposed tagging, sounds like a good approach to me. It takes the reader to somewhere relevant, whilst encouraging creation of a more specific article. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Seems like a clear case for WP:REDLINK to me. Clear article potential here, and no real appropriate target currently exists. Delete to encourage article creation. BlackholeWA (talk) 14:02, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:10, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. The potential for an article is quite strong here. Not a very active user (talk) 12:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Dogtown, Los Angeles, California
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Wikipedia:Simpkins
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 * The result of the discussion was deleted  by  per G8. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Simpkins → User:Carleboo (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Simpkins&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The page creator moved a userspace draft to the Wikipedia: namespace which is clearly the wrong namespace, so I moved it back. In other words, this is a cross namespace redirect.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 05:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as WP:G6 uncontroversial housekeeping, to clean up from a clearly erroneous move. Perhaps the user intended to move it to Draft:Simpkins. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:46, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The target of this redirect has since been deleted, so I flagged it for G8. Naleksuh (talk) 03:49, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Pearl Harbor Memorial
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Pearl Harbor National Memorial. signed,Rosguill talk 16:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Pearl Harbor Memorial → USS Arizona Memorial (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pearl_Harbor_Memorial&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This should probably be retargeted to Pearl Harbor National Memorial (of which the Arizona Memorial is a part). Mdewman6 (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget Redirect The redirect doesn't make sense if you're redirecting one topic to a different topic. As this redirect is very confusing as the Memorial of the Pearl Harbor National Bombings had the Arizona Memorial thing, I would honestly redirect it to the Memorial cause It violates some rules in Redirect or probably this is just messing up my brain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StaleGuy22 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support proposed retarget. Considering that there are several memorials at Pearl Harbor, it seems odd to redirect it to Arizona, which is just the most famous one. The other option is to make it a disambiguation page to include the three articles about "Pearl Harbor Memorial" bridges. Ibadibam (talk) 20:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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