Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 25

September 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 25, 2020.

Wikipedia:BACAVIA & Wikipedia:PPCC
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 5%23Wikipedia:BACAVIA & Wikipedia:PPCC

XFX play hard ATI Radeon HD 4550
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * XFX play hard ATI Radeon HD 4550 → Radeon HD 4000 series (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=XFX_play_hard_ATI_Radeon_HD_4550&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Procedural nomination: a PROD was placed by with the justification Page redirected, but does it have any reason to exist? One discrete GPU SKU (whose chipset is covered in detail in the redirect) hardly seems significant.. I can't find any evidence that the Radeon HD 4550 was ever referred to this way, so I would second the call for deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 19:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per prodder and nom. - 2pou (talk) 05:10, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Play hard" is a tagline for the graphics card brand XFX, but highly unlikely anyone would search for a single graphics card SKU. feminist (talk) 04:03, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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English newspapers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * English newspapers → Category:English-language newspapers by country (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=English_newspapers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete this cross-namespace redirect as ambiguous. If it refers to English-language newspapers then the current target is an incomplete list. If it means newspapers in England then that is part of List of newspapers in the United Kingdom to which List of newspapers in England redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak retarget to List of newspapers in the United Kingdom, as we have French newspapers, Portuguese newspapers, Chinese newspaper, German newspaper etc. I think those redirects should also be nominated together either in this discussion or in a separate one. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:14, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:55, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and I'd be open to the subsequent discussion Champion suggests. I don't like the status quo without a hatnote, and how would you even hatnote this? English-language newspapers can be found all over the world, and Lists of newspapers is far too broad. --BDD (talk) 20:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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Quandt family
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Ruth bader ginsburg death
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 04:02, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Ruth bader ginsburg death → Death and funeral of Ruth Bader Ginsburg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruth_bader_ginsburg_death&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RFD criterion 8. It is very doubtful that this poorly written redirect will be used by anyone looking to know about the death of Ginsburg. Lettlerhello • contribs 17:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Redirects are cheap, moreso than these types of discussions. So it's missing an , and the search engine doesn't case about case here.—Bagumba (talk) 09:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CHEAP anyone who does use this will be taken to the article they are looking for and it will also help the search engine (and external search engines) point people who use similar search terms to what they want to read. Thryduulf (talk) 13:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I would be willing to bet that most people search the internet like this (including in lowercase). Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. In addition, the nominator mentions D8, but that is outweighed by and . — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:44, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:DFD
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Manor of Tottenham, Wiltshire
  Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 5%23Manor of Tottenham, Wiltshire

One Loudoun
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ashburn, Virginia. signed,Rosguill talk 17:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * One Loudoun → Edelman Financial Field (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One_Loudoun&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * One Loudon → Edelman Financial Field (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One_Loudon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from a housing subdivision to a stadium that never materialized in that subdivision; confusing that the redirect points this direction. First one has correct spelling, second one incorrect spelling. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

(added after nomination) To be clear: I would support deletion or retargeting to Ashburn, Virginia as Shhhnotsoloud proposed. Vahurzpu (talk) 17:16, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Do you have a proposal to solve this confusion? -- Pemilligan (talk) 17:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Ashburn, Virginia where it is described as a subdivision. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Eu nacional
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Eu nacional → Sebastianism (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eu_nacional&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Eu nacional" (in Portuguese) means, in word-by-word translation "I national", the sense is probably "National self". The few hit I got in searches are used in a generic sense: the conctruction of a national self in an article about Brazil history, or as "national self" as opposed to "foreign other" in an article about Austro-Hungary. The current target, Sebastianism, is considered by manyref needed :-)to be part of the Portuguese national identity.

So "Eu nacional" is a generic (and rarely used) Portuguese expression, it is not a national idiomatic expression, and even if it were (as in Portuguese national "identity") "Sebastanism" is not its meaning. Nabla (talk) 16:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I thought this was a media title, but I guess not. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:32, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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Trump campaign controversies
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Eejit
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:30, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Eejit → Idiot (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eejit&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a British slang term for idiot, which is presumably why it was originally created. However, it is doubtful many people would actually search using this term - QuiteUnusual (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to wiktionary.org/wiki/eejit. If someone is typing in "Eejit" I doubt they are actually looking for Idiot, but are looking for what it means (Scottish pronunciation of idiot), which Wiktionary provides. SilkTork (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * +1 support for Thryduulf's DAB. SilkTork (talk) 11:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Disambig. I've drafted a dab page beneath the redirect. If others don't like that though then soft redirect to Wiktionary is my second preference. Thryduulf (talk) 23:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate/stub per  Would be a funny acronym for a technical school though.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thry's draft Dab looks good to go. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 01:03, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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Six standard deviations
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Six Sigma -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Six standard deviations → Sigma 6 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Six_standard_deviations&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The disambiguation page Sigma 6 does not disambiguate the term "Six standard deviations". Better target might be 68–95–99.7 rule (or Six Sigma). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * retarget to Six Sigma (1st choice). 68–95–99.7 rule is not bad either. - Nabla (talk) 16:04, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Six Sigma, which explains the math equivalent in the lead. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Six sigma: Since the Greek σ (sigma) is used for standard deviation. - 2pou (talk) 05:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Title
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . That being said, it may be worthwhile to bypass the transclusions. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Template:Title → Template:Correct title (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Title&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too generic. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:31, 16 September 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as it's likely to cause confusion. — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment this template redirect appears to be transcluded by 38 pages. signed,Rosguill talk 21:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep unless and until all transclusions are bypassed and evidence the redirect is causing/has caused actual (rather than simply theoretical) problems. A quick look shows no evidence of anyone being confused by it. Thryduulf (talk) 15:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. What are the other uses? There's a lot more leeway for ambiguity outside of mainspace. --BDD (talk) 20:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Replace all uses. Vague template redirects should be discouraged because they obfuscate the code; there aren't even any gains in brevity from the shortcut, as it's used only once per article and typically on a line of its own. Maybe keep an eye for further uses in the future, and boldly disambiguate if any competing ones show up. – Uanfala (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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Unanimity criterion
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Settlement of Australia
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:28, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Settlement of Australia → History of Australia (1788–1850) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Settlement_of_Australia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Obviously, Europeans weren't the only settlers. The only question is whether this should be retargeted to the article about the original settlement, or accommodate both uses and instead point to History of Australia? – Uanfala (talk) 22:16, 17 September 2020 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment there is already a hatnote "For the initial settlement of Australia by the First Peoples of Australia, see History of Indigenous Australians.". Thryduulf (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - even looking at the History of Indigenous Australians article it's clear that this is a term mostly associated with colonial settlement of Australia (the word settlement isn't used at all in reference to non-Europeans in that article). For those who were looking for Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander migration/arrival/"settlement", the hatnote is there for them. A7V2 (talk) 01:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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iPhone (9th generation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 2%23iPhone (9th generation)

Siemens process
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iPhone (Xth generation)
<span id="iPhone (11th generation)"> <span id="iPhone (12th generation)"> <span id="iPhone (13th generation)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 2%23iPhone (Xth generation)