Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 17

August 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 17, 2021.

Take My Breath Away (SuReal song)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lange (musician). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:03, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Take My Breath Away (SuReal song) → UK Singles Chart (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nothing in the article about this song. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 20:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lange (musician), who released the song under the name SuReaL. ResPM  (T&#x1F508; &#x1F3B5;C) 22:05, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lange (musician), per RPM. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 00:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lange (musician) as above. Song is also known as You Take My Breath Away, but in some compilation albums it's Take My Breath Away.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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Take My Breath Away (Soda Club song)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Take My Breath Away. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Take My Breath Away (Soda Club song) → SodaStream (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nothing about this song is mentioned in the article. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 20:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Take My Breath Away. This is a cover of that song by Love to Infinity under the name Soda Club, a band we apparently have completely the wrong information about.-- Laun chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 22:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete unless mentioned in Redirect to Take My Breath Away article as a notable rendition.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC) updated 06:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It charted at #16 on the UK Singles Chart. It really should be added to the article.-- <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 11:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , good find! Yes, redirect is appropriate. Please add an Other covers and renditions section AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 06:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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Dumby
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 25%23Dumby

Testivan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  06:42, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Testivan → Testosterone (medication) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, internet and GScholar searches do not suggest that this is a name for testosterone medications signed,Rosguill talk 17:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Could either be a misspelling of Testavan or tastevin. UserTwoSix (talk) 18:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. A redirect that could be a plausible typo for multiple targets, both of which are themselves redirects, is likely to cause confusion and unlikely to be helpful. Best to defer to search results. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Mdewman. Confusing redirect which proves unhelpful to readers. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:23, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ploopy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 25%23Ploopy

Gua pi mao
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Hanfu headwear.  ✗  plicit  06:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Gua pi mao → Skullcap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems to be a distinct subtype of skullcap, with high cultural importance, but there's nothing on the target page discussing gua pi mao in particular. Yitz (talk) 17:09, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Emojipedia says it's a Chinese skullcap.  This NPR source says it could be related to Qing dynasty headgear, but that's just their interpretation of it.    Another option is to add it to List of headgear  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:40, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Hanfu headwear (where guapi mao is mentioned) and tag as R with possibilities. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 08:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Hanfu headwear per 61 IP. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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Tiberius Nero
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:20, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Tiberius Nero → Tiberius Claudius Nero (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirects to a DAB. There are three people listed known primarily as Tiberius Claudius Nero/Tiberius Nero. Of these, |Tiberius_Claudius_Nero_(grandfather_of_Tiberius_Caesar)|Tiberius_Claudius_Nero_(father_of_Tiberius_Caesar) pageviews indicates a clear PT. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 14:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The two emperors in the list, Tiberius and Claudius, which you ommitted, have |Tiberius_Claudius_Nero_(grandfather_of_Tiberius_Caesar)|Tiberius_Claudius_Nero_(father_of_Tiberius_Caesar)|Tiberius|Claudius far more views than any of these. It's inherently ambiguous, there's no reason why any of these targets should be preferred. Raw page view numbers are variable and fleeting, and WP:DPT specifically says they 'are not considered absolute' for determining a PT. The only thing that matters is whether "Tiberius Nero" is likely to refer to your proposed target more than the others; and there's no reason to believe it does. Avilich (talk) 15:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. It appears that is right on this one: pageviews are not reliable. A Google search for   returns a first page of almost exclusively results for the emperor Tiberius, whose full name appears in multiple sources as Tiberius Claudius Nero (other than one link to the Shadowhunters Wikia page for a character whose full name is Tiberius Nero Blackthorn). Better to redirect to the disambiguation page and let readers select the article they're looking for (Tiberius is listed there along with the three individuals known as Tiberius Claudius Nero). Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Scientific expert
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Scientific expert → Expert witness (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This has been around since Feb 2007, without change, but has only two links from article space: Environmental memory, linked as "scientific expertise", where it's obviously wrong; and Björn-Ola Linnér, a member of an international committee, which conceivably could be correct but, if so, should probably be replaced by expert witness. Whether a scientist is an expert is somewhat subjective. So I think this is WP:RFD confusing, and cannot find a better target, so tentatively suggest Delete. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 20:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It could possibly be retargeted to Subject-matter expert. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 21:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Subject-matter expert is better than the current target, but still broader than the scientific field. Delete per WP:REDYES.  Jay (Talk) 15:12, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague and WP:XY. This could be any (subject) expert which would go to Subject-matter expert but there isn't a large section in there for science. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:06, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Sick fish
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fish disease and parasites.  ✗  plicit  14:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Sick fish → Fish (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fish disease and parasites seems like a better target Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:59, 17 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Fish disease and parasites as above. Most "sick (animal/plant)" don't have articles for WP:XY reasons, but at least this one does. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:12, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Trust (law) USA
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Trust (law) USA">Trust (law) USA → Trust law (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD "obscure". There were only a half a dozen uses of this in articles, invariably piped, which I have replaced either with a piped link to the target or an unpiped redirect e.g. . It's a bit MOS:EGGy and seems an unlikely search term. Strictly WP:NCDAB says a parenthetical phrase should be "added" without prescribing it be at the end, but it is unusual. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 08:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the result of a merge of 2006, but the article history is not at the redirect. There's also, but that does have relevant merge history, hence not bundling. Discussion of (re-)merge at 85.67.32.244 (talk) 08:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:48, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unusual formatting. Also please consider deleting the Trust law/The United States redirect as old us. You can create Trust law in the United States redirect instead, which would be more helpful.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:16, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete – can't imagine why anyone would search for this, and there's no history worth preserving. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
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Land of opportunity
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:06, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Land of opportunity → American Dream (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Possibly a bit unspecific, but most importantly, this is a former nickname of Arkansas. Should this be resolved with a hatnote, another one for Land of Opportunity should be added as well. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 09:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep and create disambiguation for List of U.S. state and territory nicknames and the Land of Opportunity film It's also a song on Is There Anybody Out There? (album) and Signs of Life (Steven Curtis Chapman album)   AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. BD2412  T 05:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Dabify per [[User:AngusWOOF -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate (drafted) per AngusWOOF. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:26, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's a lot of meanings I hadn't found. Thanks for the work! User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  15:14, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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Canadophile
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 * The result of the discussion was restored article and send to AfD  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Canadophile → Canada (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Canadophile is NOT synonymous with Canada, as Francophile is not synonymous with France or Russophile is not synonymous with Russia. I was trying to convert it into an article, but someone reverted it, citing DICDEF. 2409:4061:2D1D:B8B8:804A:E54A:78DB:CEFE (talk) 06:26, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore article and send to AfD. This article was PRODded, the next step in that process is to nominate for WP:AFD. Converting it to a redirect and then immediately nominating the redirect for deletion is an end-run around that process. Courtesy ping . Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 12:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore and AfD per Ivan's squirrel. I have no opposition to this action, as per the IP, the redirect is nonsense anyway. Jalen Folf   (talk)  14:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Interstate 76 and Interstate 676
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 29%23Interstate 76 and Interstate 676

Interstate 90 in the Dakotas
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  01:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Interstate 90 in the Dakotas → Interstate 90 in South Dakota (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interstate 94 in the Dakotas → Interstate 94 in North Dakota (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These are misleading redirects because neither Interstate 94 nor Interstate 90 traverses both North and South Dakota; so there is no reason to search using the collective term. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:09, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete—implausible/improper.  Imzadi 1979  →   03:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom.  Dough   4872   12:16, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 12:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Interstate 90 (Dakota)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  01:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Interstate 90 (Dakota)">Interstate 90 (Dakota) → Interstate 90 in South Dakota (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Interstate 94 (Dakota)">Interstate 94 (Dakota) → Interstate 94 in North Dakota (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an implausible disambiguation given that neither North Dakota nor South Dakota are known as simply "Dakota" (the collective term is The Dakotas). -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:07, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ComplexRational (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete—implausible/improper.  Imzadi 1979  →   03:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom.  Dough   4872   12:16, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Interstate 99 in the United States
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 29%23Interstate 99 in the United States

Interim president
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 27%23Interim president