Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 12

July 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 12, 2021.

See food diet
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 19%23See food diet

Country-style white bread
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Country-style white bread → White bread (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, nor do any of the results at Country Style (disambiguation) seem relevant. I would suggest deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 20:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Orowheat's Country Style breads are made with "simple, real ingredients". This might just be something a company made up... I think this might be towards the trend of "real foods", less preservatives, etc. UserTwoSix (talk) 20:32, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * My sense is that it's just branding, sort of like "rustic". signed,Rosguill talk 20:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not described anywhere to point to. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There is Pain de campagne for country bread, but this is still really vague. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:00, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Miami Beach, Yorkshire
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Miami Beach, Yorkshire → East Lindsey (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. An internet search mostly returned results about Yorkshire terriers up for adoption in Miami Beach, FL. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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Croakies
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  Thryduulf (talk) 11:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Croakies → Sunglasses (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. An online search suggests that this is a brand name for a sunglass w/ strap product line, but does not appear to be a general term for sunglasses with straps. I think deletion is the proper course of action. signed,Rosguill talk 20:19, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I think "Croakies" is one of the original brands that was quite popular and well known after its founding in 1977. UserTwoSix (talk) 20:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. There's no section about the history of eyeglasses straps. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 04:01, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Croakies are straps for sunglasses (https://www.croakies.com/the-best-eyewear-retainer-for-you). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:40, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete If the brand name is notable (Google News hits look vaguely promising) it should have an article, so delete per WP:R. If it's not notable, it shouldn't be mentioned in the target section per WP:EXAMPLEFARM, in which case it should also be deleted. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 17:05, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and others. If the brand is not mentioned at target then this redirect shouldn't be kept. CycloneYoris talk! 23:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Template:R from related concept
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Template:R to related topic. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:R from related concept → Template:R from related word (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I typed this in meaning to type R from related topic (which redirects to R to related topic), and was surprised to find that this redirects to R from related word. In my opinion, "topic" is a much more predictable synonym for "concept" than "word" is. This only has four backlinks. Of those: I suggest that we retarget to R to related topic, recategorize the second and third transclusions, and bypass template redirect on the fourth transclusion. Not sure yet what to do with the first transclusion. Might need its own RfD. -- Tamzin (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 20:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * : Not sure what the right rcat would be for this, because I'm not sure what the right target is.
 * and : Seems more like an R from subtopic. Donation is one part of transplantation.
 * : Indeed a related word
 * Retarget and such per nom. The "related topic" and "related word" rcats and their associated redirects/transclusions evolved poorly and haphazardly from R from alternative name with little overall organization and therefore do not function as logically indicated by their titles, resulting in miscategorized redirects or at least frustration in trying to categorize them. Note also the current requested move attempting to address R from related term at Template_talk:R_from_related_word, but apparently attempting to fix that aspect of these rcats is too big of a hill to climb. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget etc exactly per nom. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:43, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Per nom; that all sounds fine. This is fortunately one of those cases where redirect and  are the same and not opposites, because "related" is a two-way relationship.  Anyway, "concept" does indeed better map onto "topic" than onto "word" (or even "term" which would encompass multi-word terms); the same concept often has mutiple names (i.e. words/terms).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Stockholm 2019
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:47, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Stockholm 2019 → wikimania:2019:Wikimania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful redirect. Redirects to wikimania:2019:Wikimania, created by User:Crocusfleur. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plausible-enough search term that couldn't refer to anything else. I don't think there's really a need to be creating interwiki redirects to Wikimanias from past years (this was created two weeks ago), but I also don't think there's a need to delete them if they're harmless. -- Tamzin  (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 06:22, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tamzin. This is a plausible and unambiguous search term so there is no benefit to deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 10:23, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per above comments unless you can prove that 'Stockholm 2019' could refer to something else Wikipedia-related.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 16:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Stockholm
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Stockholm → wikimania:2019:Wikimania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful redirect. Redirects to wikimania:2019:Wikimania, created by User:Crocusfleur. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:16, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Without the "2019" qualifier, people are more likely to expect this to point to something on-wiki. Best to leave it red in case WikiProject Sweden ever want it. Or maybe someone wants to write an essay comparing Wikipedia to Stockholm syndrome... Wouldn't be entirely unfair. -- Tamzin  (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 06:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tamzin. Thryduulf (talk) 10:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Nazi
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to User:MjolnirPants/No Nazis.  ✗  plicit  23:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Nazi → Wikipedia:Godwin's law (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful redirect. Redirects to Godwin's law, created by User:Crocusfleur.— Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:06, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to User:MjolnirPants/No Nazis or delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to User:MjolnirPants/No Nazis WP:NAZI already redirects there, no reason this shouldn't too. Mlb96 (talk) 03:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Don't call people Nazis
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Don't call people Nazis → Wikipedia:Godwin's law (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful redirect. Redirects to Godwin's law, created by User:Crocusfleur. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:06, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete "Don't call people nazis if they are not actual nazis" is the actual point of Godwin's Law. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:29, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Since Mike Godwin happens to be a Wikipedian, and the meaning of his famous observation is at issue here, I've asked him if he has any thoughts on this. -- Tamzin  (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 06:36, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Godwin's Law has more than one point, but it shouldn't be interpreted as foreclosing the ability to call someone a Nazi, especially if they're really a Nazi (we have plenty still around). Plus, we don't want to shut down irony or jokes, right? In general, Nazi/Hitler comparisons are unhelpful, but this generalization is not without its exceptions. MikeGodwin (talk) 13:27, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Retargeting to User:MjolnirPants/No Nazis seems like a decent option, but (1) I am reading the mind of the redirect creator and (2) my understanding of the policies on non-mainspace redirects is rusty at best. On a side note, I do not think anyone, even Mike Godwin, is the final authority of what Godwin's law means - a given piece of writing can take on meaning beyond what their author intended. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:30, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm a fan of death of the author as a literary analysis tool. Still seemed a useful perspective to get at RfD, where plausibility is a key consideration, and I thank Mike Godwin for responding to my query. The analysis of plausibility for projectspace redirects is a bit different from mainspace ones, because historically we've allowed some leeway to commentary via redirect in projectspace, for instance to allow people to make a point by linking to a specific redirect with a flashy name. Point being, if Mike had said "Of course that's what I meant!", that would have made me consider a keep !vote, although it wouldn't have been dispositive on its own. But if this is a misrepresentation of both the prevailing interpretation of the Law (per Beeblebrox and per general usage) and of the originator's intention, then yes, delete.And anyone who disagrees is a—oh wait... -- Tamzin  (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 17:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Puola
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  23:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Puola → Poland (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE, no connection between Poland and the Finnish language.  dud  hhr  Contribs 17:06, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Tenditious
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Tendentious editing  . Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Tenditious → Wikipedia:Disruptive editing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * TENDITIOUS → Wikipedia:Disruptive editing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should probably redirect to Tendentious editing, but it's a long-existing shortcut that has incoming links so bringing it to RfD to make sure. Paul_012 (talk) 12:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Unhelpful comment I'm torn whether this should match WP:TENDENTIOUS EDITING or WP:TENDONITISEDITING. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 14:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete since "Tenditious" isn't a thing. Links that would be broken are from archived discussions, and whilst I assume they mean Tendentious I can't be sure, and deletion will do no harm in mainspace. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I would argue against deletion, since tenditious is a very plausible typo for a word that isn't always familiar to everyone (as evidenced by its multiple uses). --Paul_012 (talk) 11:31, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. While r from incorrect names don't come up in projectspace as often in mainspace, it's clear that this is a pretty common misnomer. Normally the sizable number of inbound links would be an issue, but I don't think so here, as I'm guessing that ~100% of the people linking to this expected it to redirect to the proposed target rather than the actual target. -- Tamzin  (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 12:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget per Tamzin. signed,Rosguill talk 00:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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Obock and Tadjoura
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 20%23Obock and Tadjoura

SquatForChange
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles .  ✗  plicit  12:14, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * SquatForChange → Squatting position (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Squat for change → Squatting position (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Squatforchange → Squatting position (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Squat for change movement → Squatting position (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Hashtag that had a brief flurry of media coverage in 2018, no longer mentioned at target article. Even when it was mentioned, it was just two sentences (one of them a copyvio from the cited Times article). SquatForChange still exists as a non-profit, and there may be room for a mention of them if Changing table were expanded to say a lot more about access advocacy, but barring a mention there, delete. -- Tamzin (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 07:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Alexandr Kalinin
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 19%23Alexandr Kalinin

Eddie Olosunde
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  04:20, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Eddie Olosunde → List of The Bill characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The correct name, per the list and per Google results, is Eddie Olosunje. 'j' → 'd' as a typo gets only 6 GHits, and pageviews are ~10/year. Delete. -- Tamzin (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 03:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete per nom (implausible typo). is there any reason you relisted this? Per WP:RGUIDE: If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.  Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixing ping: . Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Qarabash
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  04:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Qarabash → Karabash, Republic of Tatarstan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

In reliable sources, this spelling refers to a village in Diyarbekir vilayet of the Ottoman Empire (see Google Books results). It's also a surname, but there are no wikipedia articles about such individuals. Therefore delete to encourage article creation. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  01:01, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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