Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 25

July 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 25, 2021.

The Arkham Knight
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Arkham Knight. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 04:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The Arkham Knight → Jason Todd (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The alias "Arkham Knight" has its own article, so the redirect should go to that article and not Jason Todd since multiple characters are called "The Arkham Knight" Icedmorning (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * retarget to Arkham Knight which is the most plausible target -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * straightforward retarget per nom -sche (talk) 03:58, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a case where the retarget should have been boldly done. Was it listed here because the target has not been changed since 2015, and the nom was not sure why? A vandal redirected Arkham Knight to Jason Todd, and it took 3 days for it to be realized and reverted. The reverter did not fix the redirects which a bot had already changed.  Jay (Talk) 08:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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Sunnydale Syndrome
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 3%23Sunnydale Syndrome

COVID-19 outbreak at the Expo 2020
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:31, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * COVID-19 outbreak at the Expo 2020 → Expo 2020 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A newly created misnomer. There is no outbreak at Expo 2020; or at least not yet as the event will not start for several months. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 17:56, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The redirect was done probably to avoid the speedy delete. Misleading title. Delete.  Jay (Talk) 04:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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Brothers and Sisters in Christ
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 2%23Brothers and Sisters in Christ

Wolf Burchard
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 2%23Wolf Burchard

Toni Hassan
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 * The result of the discussion was moot  as an article has been written.  ✗  plicit  05:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Toni Hassan → Misses Jane and Mary Hampson (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, no clear connection to the target, possibly created by accident as a result of a page move from a user sandbox. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 15:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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Pay-as-you-go cafe
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hog Farm Talk 17:54, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Pay-as-you-go cafe → Anti-café (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD, confusing, not at target. I would say most cafés are PAYG, as are most other retailers. (Sure, some may offer credit...) 85.67.32.244 (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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Nakul Roshan Sahdev
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 1%23Nakul Roshan Sahdev

Sicily in the Eurovision Song Contest
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Sicily in the Eurovision Song Contest → Italy in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Lacks notability. Sicily was never reported to be looking for a separate participation in the Eurovision Song Contest so nobody would be looking for Sicily's involvement in the event. 〜 イヴァンスクルージ九十八 ［IvanScrooge98］ （ 会話 ） 10:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete because target article contains no information about Sicily. &horbar;Jochem van Hees (talk) 09:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jochem van Hees; nobody would assume Sicily participated in Eurovision as an independent country, and the target article doesn't (and probably shouldn't) talk about the regional origin of Italy's Eurovision entries. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 23:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Black feet
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Blackfoot (disambiguation). signed,Rosguill talk 20:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Black feet → Piegan Blackfeet (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is confusing because Blackfeet redirects to a different article Blackfeet Nation, and there may be other potential targets. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:25, 17 July 2021 (UTC) Blackfeet → Blackfeet Nation
 * Retarget to Blackfoot (disambiguation) which also covers the plural. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Blackfoot (disambiguation). Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 11:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 *  Comment – Blackfoot and Blackfeet are synonyms. ("The Niitsitapi, also known as the Blackfoot or Blackfeet Indians..." source: Blackfoot Confederacy). Whatever arrangement is settled upon, make sure they are pointing to the same things, and not the various articles as is now the case. For example:

Black feet → Piegan Blackfeet

Blackfoot → Blackfoot Confederacy

Black foot → Blackfoot Confederacy Or maybe one is a subset of the other, I can't be sure. If I'm wrong, please ignore. <span style="font-family:Futura,'Century Gothic',AppleGothic,serif;font-size:83%;"><b style="color:#00c6ff;">Senator2029</b> <b style="color:#00c6ff;">❮talk❯</b> 11:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - right now, Blackfeet, Black feet, and Blackfoot all redirect to different articles. Blackfeet Nation is the primary topic for Blackfoot (disambiguation). Should all three redirect to the DAB page? In any case, Black feet and Blackfeet should redirect to the same location, in my view. But I can't decide what would be most suitable. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  13:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The disambiguation page entries are proper but the lead starts with Blackfeet which is confusing (and inappropriate). I have started a discussion Talk:Blackfoot_(disambiguation).  Jay (Talk) 16:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:01, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Blackfoot (disambiguation). I suggest that the other three redirects be added to this RfD. &horbar;Jochem van Hees (talk) 09:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget Black feet to Blackfoot (disambiguation), as the topic at the base title cannot be correctly written with a space, while the disambiguation page covers a few topics which can be written with a space. I am neutral about Blackfeet and Blackfoot. I do not find the nominator's original concern about confusion between "blackfeet" and "black feet" to be valid: the lack of a space clearly distinguishes these proper nouns from the adjective + noun "black feet". This corresponds with actual English usage as seen in printed works:" Blackfeet" and "Blackfoot"  overwhelmingly give results about the indigenous nation, while "Black feet" with a space  gives results about birds whose feet are black-coloured. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:21, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That is a good point, actually. How about Black foot though? That term also gives very different search results. &horbar;Jochem van Hees (talk) 13:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB the fact that a retarget is needed shouldn't be controversial. It is more interesting whether Blackfeet Nation or Blackfoot (disambiguation) should be the target.  The current Blackfoot/Blackfeet difference in target seems problematic; I think targeting all of these to the DAB page is best.  I might be convinced Blackfoot Confederacy is the primary topic, but am fairly sure Blackfeet Nation is not. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 23:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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Daventry Parkway Project
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 3%23Daventry Parkway Project