Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 30

July 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 30, 2021.

Comicon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Comic book convention.  ✗  plicit  00:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Comicon → Comic book convention (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comic con → Comic book convention (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comic-con → San Diego Comic-Con (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comiccon → San Diego Comic-Con (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comic Con → List of comic book conventions (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comic-Con → List of comic book conventions (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * ComicCon → San Diego Comic-Con (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similar redirects with different targets. I don't know which or how many should be retargeted, but I think at least some should be. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 23:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Comic book convention. There are no sufficiently well-established WP:SMALLDIFFS that would justify otherwise. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:19, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Comic book convention per King of Hearts. Thryduulf (talk) 07:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Comic book convention per posters above. Esw01407 (talk) 16:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
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Dongers
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  00:17, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Dongers → Rafael Devers (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While I was able to find some evidence that Devers is sometimes referred to as Rafael Dongers, "Dongers" by itself does not appear to be used primarily as a nickname. Delete unless evidence that this is primarily used to refer to the baseball player can be found. signed,Rosguill talk 19:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Taco chips
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:16, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Taco chips → Nachos (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term could refer to either nachos, which are chips with taco-like toppings, or taco-flavored chips. Delete or disambiguate? Colgatepony234 (talk) 15:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. A search in the UK reveals "Taco chips", popular in Northern Ireland, is chips (U.S. fries) with taco-style topping. However, I can't find any of these uses on Enwiki (using a Search for "taco chip"). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Taco sauce
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 7%23Taco sauce

ROC at the Summer Olympics
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 7%23ROC at the Summer Olympics

Nic Cartagena.
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  by . --BDD (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Nic Cartagena. → Cartagena (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pointless redirect to a DAB page that does not mention this name. Appears to have been created as an edit test. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per Sockpuppet investigations/Nic.cartagena12 Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Nic Cartagéna
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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted  by . --BDD (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Nic Cartagéna">Nic Cartagéna → Cartagena (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirecting to a disambiguation page that does not even mention this name seems pointless, no? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:58, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per Sockpuppet investigations/Nic.cartagena12 Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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George Floyd lootings
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 6%23George Floyd lootings

Ass man
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  MBisanz  talk 21:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ass man → Cultural history of the buttocks (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No discussion of this term at the target, although content might potentially be due for inclusion. Delete unless due content can be added to the target. signed,Rosguill talk 17:51, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hmm as I do some searching "breast man" redirects to Breast fetishism. Legman is a dab page with an entry for the fetish that links to Partialism. That article has a table that includes "Buttocks fetish" so I would suggest that the "ass man" redirect be changed to "partialism" rather than deleting it outright. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:07, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete or Redirect to the appropriate episode of Seinfeld - This term is a running joke in The Fusilli Jerry episode from the 6th season of Seinfeld. "Kramer goes to the Department of Motor Vehicles for his new license plate, but is instead given vanity plates which say "ASSMAN". Later, when the gang takes Frank to a proctologist, Kramer spots a picture of a boat called "ASSMAN". He approaches the doctor and confirms that their plates got mixed up." — Maile (talk) 22:46, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * do not retarget to Seinfeld. That's a very niche use for a phrase that is in much wider use, it might merit an entry on dab page though. As for where it should redirect, I don't have an opinion at the moment. Thryduulf (talk) 00:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine to Cultural history of the buttocks Pygophilia (i.e., buttocks fetish) redirects there. "Ass man" is just another way of saying "person with a buttocks fetish," so they should have the same target. Mlb96 (talk) 02:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. That "ass man" refers to something that is at the level of partialism, a paraphilia, rather than just a mild preference, is WP:OR and seems quite incorrect in my opinion. Remember that paraphilias are covered by WP:MEDRS. Just delete it. Crossroads -talk- 04:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine to Cultural history of the buttocks same as Buttocks fetish. UserTwoSix (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete Nonsspecific. Assman was a minor gag character on Seinfeld as well and there's a fairly well known porn series of that name. ♟♙ (talk) 21:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Copied from post-relist comment at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 21.  Jay (Talk) 09:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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Jewish architecture
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 12%23Jewish architecture

Jessica Huang
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Jessica Huang → Fresh Off the Boat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion: Jessica Huang is a common name that refers to more people than the fictional character in Fresh Off The Boat (e.g. actress credited in Best of the Best 4: Without Warning). 135.180.68.120 (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I'm not convinced the fictional character isn't the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Even if it isn't, we'd just convert this to a disambiguation page, not outright delete with no replacement. However, I'm not a fan of listing in a dab any and every bit actor in a movie,who is otherwise not notable for their own standalone page; that actress was previously deleted at Articles for deletion/Jessica Huang (IMDb profile).—Bagumba (talk) 05:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete Keep. There are only 2 mentions of "Jessica Huang" -"Fresh Off the Boat", and they're not going to trump the current primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:56, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and they're not going to trump the current primary topic I'm a bit confused about the "delete". The current primary topic is Fresh Off the Boat.—Bagumba (talk) 13:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry, my mistake, I meant keep! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep No indication the character isn't the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC or that the actress even needs a WP:HATNOTE, let alone a WP:DAB page.—Bagumba (talk) 13:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Sub-aquatic warfare
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Underwater warfare. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Sub-aquatic warfare → Monitor (warship) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Suggest retargeting to Underwater warfare - the old stub formerly at this title was about monitors, but as monitors don't go underwater, users looking for anything about subaquatic warfare probably aren't looking for this target. Hog Farm Talk 05:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 09:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Bishop eustace
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bishop Eustace. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Bishop eustace → Eustace Preparatory School (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this should redirect to Eustace (bishop of Ely). If someone is searching for a bishop and types "Bishop Eustace" and ends up being taken directly to an article about a school they will be somewhat surprised, and unsure what to do next. However if someone is searching for a school and types "Bishop Eustace" and gets taken to a page about a bishop they will simply perform a new search for "Bishop Eustace School". --<strong style="color:#555555">Pontificalibus 14:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Eustace - it seems plausible to me that this might also refer to Eustace of Fauconberg or Bartholomew J. Eustace, who were also bishops. Hog Farm Talk 17:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Eustace per Hog Farm. Thryduulf (talk) 01:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate at Bishop Eustace as a title and name disambiguation page. This improves navigation, and Eustace is not specific enough. Adumbrativus (talk) 05:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 14:59, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete to put it in the same state as the correctly-capitalised Bishop Eustace. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment. Shouldn't the article title be Eustace (Bishop of Ely) with caps B? It's a specific title - "(bishop)" is ok in general. Q.v. List_of_bishops_in_the_Church_of_England. I don't want to raise an RM too soon. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 07:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * As none of the 3 bishops were known as "Bishop Eustace", Set index it. So that will be at the capitalized Bishop Eustace, and current redirect can target to it.  Jay (Talk) 10:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I would surmise that "Bishop Eustace" is the WP:COMMONNAME for Eustace (bishop of Ely) but not the other two bishops. However the other two bishops are probably referred to in that way sufficiently often to make a bishop-specific dab page the best outcome.<strong style="color:#555555">Pontificalibus 12:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume Bartholomew J. Eustace was known as "Bishop Eustace" for the school (the current target) to be named as it is. "Bishop Eustace" may not have been their official title (cf. Pope Francis), but it seems like a valid term nonetheless. --BDD (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 04:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate at Bishop Eustace. Eustace isn't the longest given name article, but still asks users to do some sifting to find the bishops. Better to disambiguate. (Technically, I'd suggest disambiguating here at Bishop eustace and then moving to the proper capitalization so the page history is closer at hand.) --BDD (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
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Domina Vacanze
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