Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 7

July 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 7, 2021.

Sssst (Listen)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:54, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Sssst (Listen) → UK Singles Chart (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Song title which does not appear in target article. CycloneYoris talk! 21:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC) DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 11:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia that I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Is a top 40 by a drum and bass act by Jonah the one hit wonder is not mentioned anywhere on wikipedia so i can't even suggest a retarget
 * Delete as no suitable target. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 18:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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Safari Software
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 * The result of the discussion was Revert to article  without prejudice to AfD. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:40, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Safari Software → Safari (software) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

For my mind, this page can be moved to a Safari Software (company), but only if the current page is replaced by correct disambiguation. The main problem of deleted page - poor overview of entire company; but most of company products still have a relatively well-written pages, and most products still have a links to a deleted page inside of their descriptions. 128.69.252.191 (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, thanks for user:JalenFolf for tip about source notability. And so, this was not a well-written page, but, I think, incorrect redirect is a much worse that a this deleted stub. 128.69.252.191 (talk) 18:31, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Revert to the article without prejudice to AfD per WP:BLAR and a trout for JalenFolf for bringing it here. Thryduulf (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Question: Which is the deleted page/stub being referred to?  Jay (Talk) 18:25, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * . Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Revert to article, which should not have been redirected (on 2 occasions) to avoid a deletion discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Revert and list at AfD to see if it passes that test. Apparently there are two Safari Software companies per anonymous user 76.85.65.150 claiming to be the original developer from the Denton, Texas incorporated company. Epic MegaGames, that is supposed to have acquired Safari, however makes no mention of any Safari company.  Jay (Talk) 19:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Unreleased songs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:55, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Unreleased songs → Bootleg recording (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Unreleased song → Bootleg recording (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not equivalent, a bootleg recording may be an unofficial recording of a concert, and an unreleased song may not be a bootleg. I think deletion is the appropriate course of action. signed,Rosguill talk 17:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 19:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Demo (music). ~AnotherFriendlyHuman (talk • contribs) 19:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I oppose that suggestion - not all unreleased songs are demos and not all demos are unreleased, so this is just as poor a target than the existing one. Thryduulf (talk) 20:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I think I get it now. The redirect I made wouldn't be helpful, so that's why people want it to get deleted. In that case, I too agree to delete it. ~AnotherFriendlyHuman (talk • contribs) 20:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * We do have Category:Unreleased songs and Category:Lists of unreleased songs by recording artists, but I'm not a fan of creating WP:CNRs. I suppose we could start a List of lists of unreleased songs and point these to the list, but I don't know how useful that would be. - Eureka Lott 00:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe just Lists of unreleased songs, like how there are articles called Lists of musicians and Lists of songs. ~AnotherFriendlyHuman (talk • contribs) 21:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Popcornfud (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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Red Dead 2
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 14%23Red Dead 2

Offcut
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 16%23Offcut

Men of the Cloth
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Minister (Christianity). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Men of the Cloth → List of The Jeffersons episodes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I believe Minister (Christianity), where Man of the cloth redirects to, would be a more logical redirect than the television episode. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 04:52, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree Minister (Christianity) is where i would expect to be taken in a redirect. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. I'd be WP:SURPRISED to arrive at the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 07:48, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I created the redirect and I'm not opposed since there's also Men of the Cloth (The Jeffersons). Go ahead and retarget, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * retarget to Minister (Christianity) per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Minister (Christianity) though I would recommend a hatnote linking to the current target be added on the Minister article since I believe it’s possible that some people typing men of the cloth may be looking up the episode.--70.24.249.16 (talk) 04:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Minister (Christianity) per above points. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 18:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
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Abandoned building
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 14%23Abandoned building

New York NOW
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 14%23New York NOW