Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 9

July 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 9, 2021.

The Grandmother (movie)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Grandmother (film). (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 03:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The Grandmother (movie) → The Short Films of David Lynch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Better retarget this to The Grandmother (film), a different film. We do have the The Grandmother (1970 film) redirect already, and it looks like the primary topic is the 1981 film? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:13, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. The Grandmother has a hatnote which mentions two different films, and (movie) is a terrible qualifier (much like (footballer) and (soccer) as a way of distinguishing between people, or the presence or absence of a stop after a personal initial). Retarget this to the proposed DAB page as R from incomplete disambiguation. Narky Blert (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * the 1970 film is the David Lynch film: there are only two films and a hatnote will do. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Grandmother (film) which has a hatnote to the current target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Grandmother (film). I can ''can't think of any situations where it is desirable for (film) and (movie) to lead to different places. Thryduulf (talk) 12:06, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf You can? User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  18:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I suppose if someone makes a movie called Saran... Certes (talk) 18:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Close enough. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * doh! Typo fixed. Thryduulf (talk) 01:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Secular politics
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Secularity. signed,Rosguill talk 20:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Secular politics → Secularism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

After a poorly-attended discussion in 2015 at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 11, secular politics was retargetted from politics to secularism.

I am bringing this redirect up again for discussion, because in the open discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (started 7 July 2021) at least two editors have queried the appropriateness of the current target - which affects the scope of a WP:TBAN. I am not involved in that ANI discussion, and have nothing to say there or here about it.

Secular politics is tagged as R with possibilities. One answer would be to write the article, which I do not feel competent to do.

is a redirect to secularity. From the DAB page secular (disambiguation), I can see no other current possibilities for the target of secular politics than secularism or secularity. The ledes of those two articles make it clear that they are related but distinct concepts. I therefore open this discussion (with a weak preference for retargetting to secularity). Narky Blert (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * (I'm one of the editors who questioned the target at ANI) What about redirecting it to the DAB page? I think that would be my first choice preference, second choice being to retarget to secularity (so support). The DAB page could be improved by listing both secularity and secularism and writing a brief description of each that would tell the reader the difference. Levivich 17:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retargetting to the DAB page secular (disambiguation) as R from incomplete disambiguation would be fine by me. I don't think either of the targets I named would be ideal. Narky Blert (talk) 19:17, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
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List of games featuring the Galaxian flagship
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 16%23List of games featuring the Galaxian flagship

Disco-pop
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Disco-pop → Eurodisco (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It's not clear that the moniker "disco-pop" exclusively refers to this subgenre, and is not mentioned at the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. Note that redirects at this title have been twice deleted at RfD, although those were pointing to a section of Disco. signed,Rosguill talk 15:52, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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Turkey and cheese
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Turkey and cheese → Sandwich (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, unlikely search term of minimal utility, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 15:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete to allow search to do its thing. If kept, the least bad target is probably Turkish cuisine. Certes (talk) 15:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. This could either be the topic suggested by Certes, or a distinctly non-kosher foodstuff. Narky Blert (talk) 19:34, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, turkey and cheese is a common sandwich order. Turkish cheese is a different thing. UserTwoSix (talk) 21:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment See Ham and cheese UserTwoSix (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Entirely different. Ham and cheese redirects to Ham sandwich which has a section Ham sandwich. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:16, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Then there should be a Turkey sandwich with a "Turkey and cheese" section. UserTwoSix (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:12, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between the sandwich and cheese from Turkey. BD2412  T 22:52, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Where do we link the sandwich entry? Sandwich has no WP:DABMENTION.  The combination appears in specific sandwiches such as Melt sandwich and Sloppy joe (New Jersey), and in non-bread foods such as Turkey Tetrazzini and Chili con carne, but they may not be what someone ordering "turkey and cheese" would expect to receive.  Certes (talk) 23:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. Oppose any mention of Turkish cheese, the poultry is the clear primary topic over the country in the "X and cheese" construction, since that is simply not how we title articles on national cuisines. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 06:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per King of Hearts and others above. WP:XY clearly applies here. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
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Bale Breaker Brewing Company
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of breweries in Washington. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Bale Breaker Brewing Company → Hops (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Only mentioned in the references section, I would lean towards deletion unless more duly sourced content can be added. signed,Rosguill talk 15:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of breweries in Washington as R to list entry. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Shhhnotsoloud. BD2412  T 22:58, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of breweries in Washington as R to list entry, agreed. Rusty5231B (talk) 18:43, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
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Nawasib
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 16%23Nawasib

Notepad (software)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 16%23Notepad (software)