Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 11

March 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 11, 2021.

Bone Apple Tea
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget.


 * Soft redirect Bone Apple Tea to bone apple tea
 * Retarget Bone Apple Teeth to Bone Apple Tea
 * Retarget Bone App the Teeth to Bone Apple Tea (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 17:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Bone Apple Tea → Eggcorn (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bone_Apple_Tea&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bone Apple Teeth → Eggcorn (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bone_Apple_Teeth&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Bone App the Teeth → Eggcorn (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bone_App_the_Teeth&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Procedural listing. User:DeliciousInternetSpeeds created the redirect in December 2020 with the edit summary, "Created redirect from semi-common example of an eggcorn". User:Mrmariomaster commented at Talk:Eggcorn, "Bone Apple Tea should not be redirected here, as the faulty phrases don't have the same meaning. Instead it should be redirected to Malapropism." I will note that bone apple tea is not currently mentioned at Eggcorn. Cnilep (talk) 23:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Change target to malapropism - bone apple tea (bon appetit) isn't an eggcorn as Mrmariomaster pointed out. – The Grid  ( talk )  01:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late addition, but I just found that 'Bone Apple Teeth' also redirects to 'Eggcorn'. Cnilep (talk) 07:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * grrr... and also 'Bone App the Teeth' Cnilep (talk) 07:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding that my !vote also applies for the items added after my vote. – The Grid  ( talk )  16:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * We typically don't redirect linguistic examples to their related lexicogical articles unless there's a mention, and this one isn't included at Malapropism. We could retarget them to Bon Appétit (disambiguation) as a spelling variant, but it's not mentioned there, either. I think it would be best if we retarget the first to bone apple tea and retarget the other two to that first page. - Eureka Lott 18:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Change target to malapropism. The subreddit about malapropisms is called r/BoneAppleTea, so the phrase is probably at least somewhat well known. HotdogPi 19:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bon appétit as typo. 053pvr (talk) 04:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rtarget per Eureka Lott (i.e. Bone Apple Tea wiktionary redirect to bone apple tea, and the other two to Bone Apple Tea until Wiktionary gets its own entries on those variants). Wiktionary actually explains this term, unlike any target in English Wikipedia. Trying to use the redirect system to hold WP:EXAMPLEFARMs of content that didn't make it into the article itself just wastes time for any reader who was looking for a definition and not just a vague implication that the term they typed in belongs to a certain class. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to wikt:bone apple tea as per and . Having a redirect lead to wiktionary is better than redirecting to bon appétit and it also does a better job of explaining the joke than a redirect to malapropism.  Anarchyte  ( talk  &#8226;  work ) 13:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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Incise
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Incision. Ixfd64 (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Incise → Cutting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incise&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should this target the article on cutting or should it target the dab page at Incision? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Incised. It's not the greatest article, but it's probably a better target. - Eureka Lott 19:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to dab page Incision, which strikes me as a similar, slightly better solution. I've actually gone ahead and boldly converted Incised into a redirect pointing at Incision. signed,Rosguill talk 19:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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Geared motor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 21%23Geared motor

Rondelle
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 19%23Rondelle

Nut and bolt
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Nuts and Bolts. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Nut and bolt → Nut (hardware) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nut_and_bolt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Nut and Bolt → Nut (hardware) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nut_and_Bolt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY. These could sensibly be targeting Nut (hardware) or Bolt (fastener). Perhaps a target like Bolted joint or Fastener would be better? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nuts and Bolts I believe that to be the best target.--70.27.244.104 (talk) 01:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I missed that dab page! I would support retargeting these there. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nuts and bolts as . Thryduulf (talk) 13:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Bolt (screw)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bolt (fastener). (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Bolt (screw) → Screw (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolt_(screw)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY. Someone coming across this redirect could be looking for Bolt (fastener) or Screw. Which one should this target or should it be deleted? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bolt (fastener) which has a link to screw in the lead (which in turn explains the difference between bolts and screws). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bolt (fastener) appears to be a good solution. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:NZ-Currency
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . <b style="font-family:Papyrus"> Anarchyte </b> ( talk  &#8226;  work ) 13:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:NZ-Currency → Template:Non-free currency-New Zealand (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:NZ-Currency&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Is this still necessary? Hasn't been at this title since 2008, and is intentionally a soft redirect so people don't use this name - which seems to have worked. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's currently a soft redirect so there's no point keeping this to avoid breaking old versions of pages, as they won't work anyway. Only got 5 page views in the last year, which shows this is not a common way of searching for this template. The template hasn't been at this title for 13 years at this point. Finally the name seems ambiguous to me, and I personally wouldn't expect something as generic as Template:NZ-Currency to be a copyright disclaimer template, I would expect to end up somewhere like Template:New Zealand currency and coinage. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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Nenjam Marappathillai (unreleased film)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Nenjam Marappathillai (unreleased film)">Nenjam Marappathillai (unreleased film) → Nenjam Marappathillai (2021 film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nenjam_Marappathillai_(unreleased_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The film released on 5 March 2021 <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  13:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:RFD. It seems the article was at this title for almost a year and a half, so deleting the redirect may break incoming links from other websites. —Granger (talk · contribs) 13:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I fixed the incoming links from the mainspace. -- <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  07:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I'm concerned about incoming links from other websites, not internal links from within Wikipedia. This redirect still gets a significant number of pageviews every day, so readers are getting to it somehow, probably through links from other websites. —Granger (talk · contribs) 07:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Still getting 30-50 page views a day, so there's incoming traffic from somewhere. No prejudice against relisting later when traffic has died off. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for now per above. This is still a very useful redirect at the present time. Thryduulf (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per above, we don't want to inconvenience those readers. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:TempleU
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:47, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:TempleU → Template:User TempleU (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TempleU&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused redirect to a userbox - could potentially also be a navigation template for subjects related to Temple University - and therefore reserved for such usage. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Tenet
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Tenet → Template:Tenet Healthcare (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Tenet&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous name (multiple things with the name Tenet that a navigation template could be created for); unused. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Tennis icon(2)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G7 (non-admin closure) Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 03:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Template:Tennis icon(2)">Template:Tennis icon(2) → Template:Tennis icon2 (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Tennis_icon(2)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Typo template redirect - not necessary, not useful for navigation and we should not have these in wikitext. Unused, of course. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Socialist Party (Ireland) Elected Representatives
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 23%23Template:Socialist Party (Ireland) Elected Representatives

Template:Silver Republican Party (United States)/meta/color
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 23%23Template:Silver Republican Party (United States)/meta/color

Template:STV programmes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:STV programmes → Category:STV Productions (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:STV_programmes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Weird XNR - no reason for people to be transcluding or linking this. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Sbd
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:15, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Sbd → Template:Date table sorting (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sbd&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused; orphaned template shortcut. dts is the same length and much more obvious in how it relates to Date table sorting (I assume this is meant to be "sort by date", but that's not immediately clear) Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  Delete; don't see any point in keeping it around since it doesn't have any obvious relation to the target. Jackattack1597 (talk) 19:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Satriani
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Satriani → Template:Joe Satriani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Satriani&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While there is only currently one person with this surname - see Satriani - this is potentially ambiguous in the future and should therefore not be used. As it is not currently used, it should be deleted. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep; every redirect is potentially ambiguous in the future. Wikipedia doesn't just stay stagnant for eternity – it maintains itself. If ever this redirect becomes ambiguous, it will be taken here and the appropriate action will be taken. This nomination serves only to be a maintenance burden as deleting this redirect is at this moment completely useless. If it isn't harmful right now, then just leave it alone. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:34, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, there are no other templates this is ambiguous with. If that changes in the future, then we can discuss whether it is appropriate to retarget, delete, or disambiguate. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Satch
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Satch → Template:Joe Satriani (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Satch&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No reason for template redirects from nicknames; unused and potentially confusing to editors. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Satch for editors' navigation considering the unhelpfulness of this search page. It's ambiguous with Template:Louis Armstrong. I think that such a retarget is the most helpful solution here despite being unconventional. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as an ambiguous and unused template redirect. A WP:CNR wouldn't be a desirable outcome. - Eureka Lott 04:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous and unused, per above. I disagree with retargeting to the dab page because I think it is highly unlikely that readers are going to be searching for articles in template space, and I don't think a list of articles is of great use to editors searching for templates. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. I agree with the previous IP user. Less Unless (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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First Grove
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 19%23First Grove

Rule of thirds (diving) (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  14:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Rule of thirds (diving) (disambiguation)">Rule of thirds (diving) (disambiguation) → Rule of thirds (disambiguation) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rule_of_thirds_(diving)_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Rule of thirds (diving) is an article, not a disambiguation page. The page was moved away from this title within five hours after creation. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete appears to be created in error or... something. Regardless, no longer useful. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:17, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this doubly (but unrelatedly so) disambiguated thing. We don't need redirects like this if their targets don't serve disambiguation functions. Regards, (SONIC) (678) 00:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. If this was fixed to point at the correct target (Rule of thirds (diving)) this could be speedy deleted per WP:G14. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I believe this was a mistake. Less Unless (talk) 16:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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Junction (Dune)
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to different targets  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Junction (Dune)">Junction (Dune) → Chapterhouse: Dune (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junction_(Dune)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Buzzell (Dune)">Buzzell (Dune) → Chapterhouse: Dune (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buzzell_(Dune)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These fictional locations are not mentioned in the target and there is nothing in the article to indicate the target is the correct one. Is there a better target? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Buzzell (Dune) should redirect to Sandworms of Dune and be unlinked in that article, and Junction (Dune) should redirect to Spacing Guild. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 22:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:FANCRUFT. 053pvr (talk) 04:37, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Your rationale for the deletion of this redirect in its entirety is a link to an essay about article content. Does it not strike you that that isn't particularly helpful? — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget Retarget per TAnthony. The terms are actually used in the articles he mentioned as new targets. Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Freaked out
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate.


 * Retarget Freaked out to Freaked Out
 * Disambiguate Freaked Out (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 17:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Freaked out → Recreational drug use (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Freaked_out&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Common phrase, at least in American English, that refers to a number of things beyond just this usage; seems too generic to point specifically here, and I don't think loosely-defined slang terms are good candidates for disambiguation. Hog Farm Talk 05:31, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Freaked Out → Beacon Street Girls (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Freaked_Out&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Freaked Out is currently a redirect to Beacon Street Girls, as a title of a book in the series; however, it's also the title of a book in the Lizzie McGuire series, a Tom Papa comedy special, and probably other works. We can convert the proper name to a disambiguation page and retarget the nominated page there. - Eureka Lott 06:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambig at Freaked Out (which I've added to this discussion) per EurekaLott. Thryduulf (talk) 12:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: disambiguation page now drafted at Freaked Out. - Eureka Lott 03:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Assyrian Protestants
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Assyrian people. (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Assyrian Protestants → Assyrian (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Assyrian_Protestants&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No content about Assyrian Protestants on the target page. People who are ethnically Assyrian and religiously Protestant may belong to a variety of Protestant churches, meaning that there is no good alternate target. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget It should be redirected to section: Assyrian people, that would be the easiest solution. Sorabino (talk) 08:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Assyrian people per Sorabino, which contains directly relevant information. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to "Assyrian people#Religion" per above. 053pvr (talk) 04:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:NELECTION
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * NELECTION → User:StudiesWorld/Notability (elections) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NELECTION&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect to a stale draft of a guideline, implies that there is an published guideline or policy involving elections and referendums. Could be misleading to users searching for an actual guideline (although there should be one quite frankly). <b style="color:#FF0000">Jay</b><b style="color:#0000FF">Jay</b><sup style="color:black">What did I do? 04:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * NREFERENDUM → User:StudiesWorld/Notability (elections) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NREFERENDUM&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete to make way for an actual guideline, or at least a more agreed upon essay (I think WikiProject Elections and Referendums might be interested since we do have some rough standards we use). Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 13:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. These are potentially valuable redirects if a policy defining inclusion criteria for elections ever gains consensus, and as such these should not be pointing to an abandoned userspace essay. There's a proposed notability guideline under development at Notability (politics), if that guideline gains consensus these should be recreated to point there. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Gallery of Presidents of the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Gallery of Presidents of the United States → List of presidents of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gallery_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At least some searchers using this term likely seek something more along the lines of the "Hall of Presidents" described somewhat at the National Portrait Gallery (United States) article (not to be confused with The Hall of Presidents at Disney World) rather than WP's virtual "gallery" of presidential portraits. Keep or retarget? Note the extensive history of this page. Mdewman6 (talk) 03:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment The image gallery is now on Commons at President of the United States. A soft redirect might work here. - Eureka Lott 06:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The original template from the now-deleted article wound up at User:Nard the Bard/POTUSgallery, for those curious. Mackensen (talk) 11:48, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is an image of every president in the list so people using this will find what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 11:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. 053pvr (talk) 04:48, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. The article serves well enough as a pseudo-gallery, and there's a link to the commons category at the bottom of the article. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf and IP user.Less Unless (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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Presidentiad
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of poems by Walt Whitman. signed,Rosguill talk 19:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Presidentiad → List of presidents of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidentiad&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure this is the most useful target for this term coined by Walt Whitman. Only passing mention on WP occurs at List of poems by Walt Whitman. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:37, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget Retarget to List of poems by Walt Whitman Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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List of presents of the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Unlikely typo of two missing letters; searchers may actually be seeking something regarding gifts (official gifts from state visits perhaps?). Delete to avoid confusion. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * List of presents of the United States → List of presidents of the United States (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_presents_of_the_United_States&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of presents of Russia → List of presidents of Russia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_presents_of_Russia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comment: I also found the similar List of presents of Russia, which I'm adding here and for which I think similar action should be taken. Regards, SONIC 678 03:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unlikely, or at least ambiguous, search term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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Template:RWS
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:RWS → Template:Stnlnk (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:RWS&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, as obsolete and unused. RWS started out as an independent template, but all the pages that it would have linked to were moved by the end of December 2017 and this template then became redundant. It was converted to a redirect three years ago, but all remaining uses have now been updated. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 00:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. "Redundant" is not a reason to delete a redirect. It's harmless in its present form and deletion will break old revisions without bringing any benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 11:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The pages RWS redirect to no longer exist. What's the point of preserving redlinks? AlgaeGraphix (talk) 12:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's not how it works. Templates in old revisions transclude the current template, which works in a sufficiently similar manner that it wont produce redlinks. Thryduulf (talk) 19:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems harmless. The old RWS would send you to " Railway Station" and the new Stnlnk sends you to " railway station".  Unless you have two pages that only differ in capitalization of "Railway Station" this seems harmless as a redirect when viewing old revisions.  Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  16:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Constantine
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 * The result of the discussion was Not a discussion for RfD  . (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Constantine → Constantine the Great (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constantine&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Before making this nomination, I checked the links-in. After filtering out articles which include templates relating to Christianity and the Roman Empire, there were 111 of them. 38 (34%) were intended for an article about a conurbation of almost one million people which receives nearly 300 views/day. That is far too high a proportion and view count for a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to an unrelated article which doesn't mention the place.

On my machine, typing "Constantine" into the search box gives Constantine the Great as top option, and the DAB page and the conurbation nowhere. Even on the DAB page, the conurbation is difficult to find unless you already know what you're looking for (to break the suspense, it's Constantine, Algeria; which would be MOS:DABCOMMON on a DAB page at the basename). The current arrangement does a serious disservice to readers. It doesn't even save typing for readers looking for the emperor.

I propose: make Constantine the DAB page at the basename and redirect Constantine (disambiguation) to it (a WP:ROBIN swap).

Note to closer. If the change is made, ping me and I will WP:FIXDABLINKS, with any luck before Constantine appears in the cynically/despairingly/resignedly-named WP:TDD. Narky Blert (talk) 00:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I think this would be better as an RM. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:33, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, move proposals go via WP:RM instead. A discussion would be a good idea in any case, but it's not strictly speaking necessary: the present arrangement dates to a bold move of 2017, so I guess that could just be reverted and the dab page moved back to the primary title à la BRD. – Uanfala (talk) 03:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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