Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 13

March 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 13, 2021.

Latomus
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 22%23Latomus

Kris Kringle Was a Car Theif
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Ixfd64 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Kris Kringle Was a Car Theif → Wesley Willis (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kris_Kringle_Was_a_Car_Theif&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, also "thief" is misspelled. Dominicmgm (talk) 18:57, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete taking a closer look it appears to be a song from an album by Willis that doesn’t have an article.--67.70.100.30 (talk) 19:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable song. 053pvr (talk) 01:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Melissa Cross
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Zen of Screaming. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Melissa Cross → Screaming (music) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Melissa_Cross&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was mentioned at the target, but I removed it as undue, referenced solely to a primary source. Delete unless a case for her inclusion at the target can be made. signed,Rosguill talk 18:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  Retarget - Retarget to Zen of Screaming or another suitable target (i.e. List_of_vocal_coaches). --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to "Zen of Screaming" per User:Jax 0677. 053pvr (talk) 01:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Kamelopedia
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to German Wikipedia. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Kamelopedia → Uncyclopedia (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kamelopedia&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, though explained at German Wikipedia. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to German Wikipedia. Does this really need to be brought up at RfD? What's wrong with just retargeting it yourself? Note that an hour and a bit after the nomination an unsourced mention of this was added to the current target. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Psyklopedin
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 21%23Psyklopedin

.hack character classes
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 21%23.hack character classes

Hidden Heroes
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Ixfd64 (talk) 20:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hidden Heroes → Meta Runner (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Heroes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Current target is a webseries begun in 2019. The Redirect's authors justification is "Hidden Heroes is a fictional video game that appears in the second season of Meta Runner, in which Tari plays it when she makes her TASCorp debut." However, all links to the Hidden Heroes page refer to the Korean film from 2004. Respectfully recommend Delete. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 04:17, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation - eventually should be a dabpage. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:FANCRUFT. 053pvr (talk) 01:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Horton Hears a Who!(soundtrack)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:37, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Horton Hears a Who!(soundtrack)">Horton Hears a Who!(soundtrack) → Horton Hears a Who! (film) (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Horton_Hears_a_Who!(soundtrack)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Back in 2008, this was moved to the correctly formatted Horton Hears a Who! (soundtrack), and doesn't seem to be getting very many pageviews now compared to that one and its target, perhaps at least partially because of the lack of a space between the name and disambiguator. Delete this unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC 678 01:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete not a useful typo. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UNNATURAL; moved a day after creation. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PARENDAB. 053pvr (talk) 01:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Greatest Team of the Greatest Club
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Port Adelaide Football Club. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Greatest Team of the Greatest Club → Port Adelaide Football Club (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greatest_Team_of_the_Greatest_Club&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - completely implausible for a typo, not to mention unbiased in favour of the club. Empoleonmaster23 (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete way too ambiguous to target this specific club. While the club did make a list if their greatest players this idea is not unique to this club and a huge number of sports teams have made similar lists. A google search has basically every result relate to a different team. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine to Port Adelaide Football Club if that section gets referenced. It's an ambiguous term, but in the context of Wikipedia the term isn't ambiguous. I'm wary refining the redirect to an unreferenced section per WP:V and as readers would likely be looking for further information through references, so in that scenario probably restore article and send to AfD this revision (there's some news coverage of the topic). At any stretch, don't delete as it isn't in RfD's remit to remove article content from public view. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine and Rename - I decided to do a bit of digging based on 's comment about references, and have found a link between this redirect (more specifically, its edit history) and a now defunct page on Port Adelaide site listing this team. However, despite the official title being the redirect title, it would be worth renaming the redirect to Port Adelaide's Greatest Team (which is alot more common than the variant used by the redirect). I retract my earlier delete nomination, as renaming the redirect and refining to the section suggested by J947 would be ideal. Empoleonmaster23 (talk) 03:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Just create a new redirect. Renaming redirects isn't helpful. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are other good reasons for redirects besides typos, and "completely implausible for a typo" doesn't apply to alternate names.  All that matters is whether this is a plausible alternate name.  Nyttend (talk) 12:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore article without prejudice to AfD per WP:BLAR, despite the edit summary of "merge and redirect" I can find no evidence that content was actually merged anywhere. Thryduulf (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's in the section Port Adelaide Football Club, the text is basically unchanged but the table has been made collapsible. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine per J947. No apparent typo, and unambiguous enough—despite being nowhere near Australia, searching the term in quotes in Google exclusively returns results related to Adelaide. --BDD (talk) 21:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 00:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete WP:G11 Clearly promotional. 053pvr (talk) 01:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ... did you even at the discussion above? — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is in no way promotional, G11 is not relevant here. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Having this redirect essentially means that Wikipedia recognises "Port Adelaide Football Club" as the "Greatest Team and the Greatest Club". We don't do that here even if this is a common name for the team. 053pvr (talk) 02:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It is simply the name of a team, see Port Adelaide Football Club. In no way does it imply that Wikipedia recognizes such (n.b. it's "Greatest Team of the Greatest Club", not "Greatest Team and the Greatest Club"). It's analogous to how 20th Century's Best Club is not promotional for Real Madrid, it's just an award they won. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "Port Adelaide Football Club" has not been recognised by any outside organisation as the "Greatest Team of the Greatest Club", it just decided to use this brand. Having this redir is NPOV. 053pvr (talk) 02:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , you fail to understand the scenario in which this redirect exists (and in general RfD). I want you to read the following and let it sink in.This redirect existing doesn't mean that we think Port Adelaide Football Club is the Greatest Team of the Greatest Club, because (a) redirects are search aids more than anything else (b) that doesn't make sense; how can Port Adelaide Football Club in a grammatical sense be the Greatest Team of the Greatest Club, and (c) this redirect doesn't even refer to the club it just refers to a team made by the club. Also NPOV only applies to encyclopedic content, and the guideline matter in the neutrality of redirects is RNEUTRAL (but that isn't relevant at all to this redirect anyhow). — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 08:31, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine to Port Adelaide Football Club where this is explained. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Refine It is explained in a section in the article, but the current redirect is too ambiguous. Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:37, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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