Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 12

May 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 12, 2021.

Lunchtime O'Boulez
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 20%23Lunchtime O'Boulez

Robert Feggans
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Robert Feggans

Supreme Court of Justice of Buenos Aires
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article  . This should be considered procedural; if the redirector still considers the article unsuitable, he may take it to AfD. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Supreme Court of Justice of Buenos Aires → Supreme Court of Argentina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete this redirect as "Supreme Court of Justice of Buenos Aires"' own article has been already created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alsoriano97 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * which article are you referring to? This title has never been anything other than a redirect, and no article with a very similar title exists in mainspace or draftspace that I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 21:44, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In this link I leave you the revision in which it can be seen that I created the article and then it was redirected. I mention, who was the one who did it in case he wants to argue something. I am using WP tools that I have never used before, so perhaps my nomination is somewhat broken. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The nominated page was on the provincial-level supreme court. Two minutes after it was created, it was WP:BLARed by User:CommanderWaterford to the article on Argentina's national supreme court, which doesn't mention the provincial supreme court. I don't understand why that was done, and I don't understand the nomination, either. This is all rather confusing. - Eureka Lott 22:03, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think what is actually being asked for is to restore the article? If so, yes that would seem sensible but I want to hear why it was redirected first. Thryduulf (talk) 00:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * that's what exactly I'm asking for. The fact that it is a short article is not (or should not be) a reason to be redirected in less than five minutes to an article about a judicial stay that is completely different. That way it has not been given the possibility to improve it, which I am willing to do. Perhaps I have made a mistake in how I've made the nomination, but my idea is this. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore article not an appropriate redirect, these are two different courts, same as the District of Columbia Court of Appeals is not the Supreme Court of the United States. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 14:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore article (pending any comment from ). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Reinstate article, since we've seen no explanation for the redirection. - Eureka Lott 02:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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AirTag
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close. Nomination was malformed, and the request has already been completed as the result of a requested move. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 17:40, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Per a consensus on AirTag (tracker), the page is being renamed to simply "AirTag" and the page previously just "AirTag" will now be AirTag (company). The "AirTag" redirect needs to be deleted before the naming change can be completed. Abobeck11 (talk) 16:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Procedural close. The WP:RM discussion at Talk:AirTag (tracker) is still open. If it's closed with a decision to move, which seems likely, the pages will be moved without the need for a discussion here. - Eureka Lott 17:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose no consensus has yet been established as the requested move is open (at the time this comment was made) . -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 00:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural close. The RM closer will fix this. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment the move request has closed. The "AirTag" redirect has been replaced by the Apple AirTag article -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 02:49, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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Jordan Oliver
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 * The result of the discussion was move draft  to Jordan Oliver and add hatnote.  (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:19, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Jordan Oliver → Injustice (professional wrestling) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion, as it redirects to another redirect, unneccessarily causing a double redirect PabloLikesToWrestle (talk) 15:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You moved Jordan Oliver to Jordan Oliver (professional wrestling), and now you want the former page deleted? That's a bad idea. Why did you move it in the first place? We don't use parenthetical disambiguation for human names unless we have material about multiple people with the same name. - Eureka Lott 16:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey. I moved it because as you said, there's multiple people with the same name. I have finished a drafted named Draft:Jordan Oliver, who happens to be the 2020 US Olympic Team Member at men's freestyle wrestling 65 kg. As you see, he is a wrestler with the same name, so the only option would be to transfer the draft to an article as Jordan Oliver (wrestler, born 1990). I think this is not worth it because of the notability of the article and how much harder it will be to find when you can simply move the other article to Jordan Oliver (professional wrestler) and delete Jordan Oliver, which isn't even a proper article, it's a redirect to a group of lower notability. I really don't see why this would be such a crazy option to take - PabloLikesToWrestle 14:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes more sense than your initial nomination. Thanks for clarifying. I support moving the draft to Jordan Oliver and adding a hatnote about the professional wrestler. - Eureka Lott 18:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Move Draft:Jordan Oliver to Jordan Oliver. I'm not sure we've got the process right here but Eureka's right. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: nomination corrected. The redirect currently points to Jordan Oliver (professional wrestling), which itself is a redirect to Injustice (professional wrestling). Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 22:45, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Move Draft:Jordan Oliver over the redirect and add a hatnote to Injustice (professional wrestling). We don't actually have an article on Jordan Oliver the wrestler, that article was redirected five months ago. Jordan Oliver (professional wrestling) should stay, it has history. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 22:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, I was wondering if I should do something or wait until Draft:Jordan Oliver can be moved into Jordan Oliver, thanks. PabloLikesToWrestle 17:14, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thia discussion has been open for over a week, and it looks like we've achieved consensus. I expect it will be closed soon. Just hang on a bit longer, please. :) - Eureka Lott 02:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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Next Welsh Assembly Election
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Next Welsh Assembly Election

Next National Assembly for Wales election
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Next National Assembly for Wales election

Prager Academical Institution
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Prager Academical Institution → PragerU (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely search term for PragerU. –dlthewave ☎ 12:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

A search for that exact term in Google shows no obvious hits. Are there any examples of this term being used by a questionable source? Absent evidence of use, I think removal makes sense. Springee (talk) 13:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

This is a somewhat humorous oxymoron but is unlikely to be used as a search term. MasterTriangle12 (talk) 06:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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Ayinla
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy disambiguate  . WP:RFD encourages editors to be bold and convert redirects into pages.  An RfD was not necessary for this, but disambiguation was supported by the !voters.  Regarding a page move, that can be done at WP:RM, where uncontroversial moves can be requested.  If the film is made the primary topic, WP:ONEOTHER says a hatnote is sufficient, and the disambiguation page can be converted into a namelist per WP:APOS. —Bagumba (talk) 10:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ayinla → Fatai Ayinla (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Page says It is used because Wikipedia has only one article about a person with this surname, or because one individual is the most likely topic sought by this surname but other well known subjects with the same name exist on the encyclopedia. Would like the page to be moved to a disambiguation page to make way for a film title. The Sokks💕 (talk) 11:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Support The article Ayinla (film) is about a film about the murder of someone else with the same name. –LaundryPizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 14:43, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom. I started a draft disambiguation page below the redirect. I didn't include the Oba Fatai Ayinla Aileru article for now, because I couldn't tell whether or not it's a WP:PTM. - Eureka Lott 17:50, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey Thank you for your help. About Oba Fatai Ayinla Aileru, Oba is his traditional title, meaning King suggesting that 'Ayinla' is his middle name.  The Sokks💕 (talk) 18:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, TheSokks, that was my initial reaction, too. If that's the case, then we shouldn't include that article on the disambiguation page. - Eureka Lott 22:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Support dabify -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:36, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
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Complex variables (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Complex variables (disambiguation)

Cock carousel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 20:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Cock carousel → Female promiscuity (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: offensive/abusive term used by incel/MGTOW/PUA types to slander women who have more sex than they do. Not mentioned on the target page. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Soft redirect to wikt:ride the cock carousel. The only part of the nomination that is relevant is that the term is not mentioned at the target (see WP:RNEUTRAL), but it is a plausible search term with e.g. 133 page views last year. I couldn't find any relevant content on en.wp, and the article in the page history was essentially just a dictionary definition, so soft redirecting to the Wiktionary entry seems best. Thryduulf (talk) 10:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I could live with that, but I'm curious why WP:RFD would not be relevant here. The Wiktionary entry specificallty says the phrase is derogatory. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 11:04, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The linked WP:RNEUTRAL section explains why some derogatory terms are good redirects, but basically if a term is (a) likely to be searched and (b) there is relevant content about the term then a redirect will help people find the content they are looking for. The target can (and in many cases should) note any non-obvious concerns around uses (e.g. if it's derogatory, etc), which might be nuanced (e.g. there are terms that are regarded as offensive in the US but not UK and vice versa). Thryduulf (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Strong delete — having this redirect legitimizes the concept and gives the impression that we support it, which we absolutely should not. A soft redirect to Wiktionary would probably have a similar effect. If we end up having a List of manosphere jargon article like RationalWiki does, then we can potentially recreate the redirect and have it point there. 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Being offensive alone doesn't mean we need to delete, but the phrase isn't particularly common—and in its own crude way, it's clear enough what it's referring to. --BDD (talk) 20:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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Rooah
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Rooah

Tinkling
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 21%23Tinkling

LTL
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  ., courtesy ping to start an RM if you want to. (non-admin closure)  — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:25, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * LTL → Lithuanian litas (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pageviews do not add up for a primary redirect here. Recommend moving LTL (disambiguation) to the primary title. 162 etc. (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * See |Less-than-truckload_shipping|Linear_temporal_logic|LTL pageviews 162 etc. (talk) 00:09, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , you'd be better served by starting an RM. RfD is not the correct venue for renaming dab pages. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, please close and I will resubmit, thanks. 162 etc. (talk) 15:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Replace with disambiguation page as ambiguous -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 02:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
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