Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 25

May 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 25, 2021.

Wikipedia:8BALL
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 2%23Wikipedia:8BALL

Olivia Rodrigo (album)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:44, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Olivia Rodrigo (album) → Sour (album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term. Neither Rodrigo nor any sources anywhere have ever mentioned a self-titled album. – DarkGlow • 22:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete May cause confusion. There is no evidence the album is ever referred by her name. Would cause even more confusion if she releases another album. Aqua3993 (talk) 02:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. -- dyl  x  13:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Olivia Rodrigo lists no album titled Olivia Rodrigo. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:ROSE
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Non-Communist
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Non-Communist → Russian Republic (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:38, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Create DAB at Non-communist between Anti-Stalinist left (to which Non-Communist Left redirects), anti-communism, capitalism, and Australian Labor Party (Non-Communist). Retarget to said DAB. -- Tamzin (she/they, no pref.) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 22:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - too vague; the title could plausibly refer to any political system other than communism, and could literally refer to everything else. Search results would be better and WP:RFD applies. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 17:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:23, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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Pre-1980 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons. signed,Rosguill talk 21:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Pre-1980 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Australian region tropical cyclone (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect has no incoming links; it reflects a previous structure of the Southern Hemisphere cyclone articles which has since been revised, so it no longer has any purpose. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - the purpose it serves is redirecting incoming external links to the old title, of which there are clearly some based on pageviews. There has been content under this title for 14 years, and it could probably be tagged R from move. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:01, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please clarify - what do you mean by "incoming external links"? Where are these coming from? There are no internal links because those articles are now organised by trpocal cyclone basin and season (year–year) from 1950 onwards, so "Pre-1980" is not a useful grouping. And it's misleading because it redirects to Australian_region_tropical_cyclone, and so disregards the other two tropical cyclone basins in the Southern Hemisphere. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can try. The redirect has a couple dozen pageviews in the 2-3 months before the nomination (there's always a burst of activity when a page is nominated so we look back from before that date), which means that someone, somewhere, is clicking on a link to that page. Since we've eliminated all the internal links, that link must be on an external site, most likely a Wikipedia mirror. We can't fix links that are not on Wikipedia, so we keep the redirects so that readers on another site looking for information here will find the info they're looking for. I see your point about the geographic change, though. I don't have time to consider it right now but I'll reply later. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:57, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to List of Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons which appears to be the closest match we have (although that page could be usefully significantly expanded). Per Ivanvector it is important that we maintain this as a blue link as it is likely that people will continue to follow links to this page. Thryduulf (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget as Thryduulf proposed to List of Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons. That's a better destination and preserves the link for any potential users. – The Fiddly Leprechaun  ·  Catch Me!  21:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget as proposed by Thryduulf. That way these external referrals will see something that's at least relevant. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 17:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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Galadorian
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Galador. signed,Rosguill talk 21:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Galadorian → Gondor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Discussed at Rom the Space Knight, List of alien races in DC Comics, and List of alien races in Marvel Comics. Galador is a one-entry dab page. Not sure what the best target is, as I'm not familiar with the comics usages. Hog Farm Talk 14:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: Not mentioned; nor, I think, are we going to bother to mention Galador or his -ian adjective at Gondor. He was the first prince of Dol Amroth, which now doesn't have its own article, so we're into a redirect to a redirect to a redirect for this adjectival form. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!</b> 05:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Galador, which is not a one-entry dab. Rom the Space Knight is linked from there and describes Galadorians in that universe, and links could be made to both of the comics lists. "Galadorian" doesn't appear in the Gondor article, but it's linked from the dab anyway so readers could still find info they're looking for from there. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * - It was when the redirect was nominated. Hog Farm Talk 00:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that. It was expanded before I got there, and then I expanded it some more. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 17:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Compassionate727 (T·C) 19:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Galador which is now a reasonable-looking disambiguation page. Adumbrativus (talk) 08:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Babe (video game)
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Mahindra Chairman
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:18, 2 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Mahindra Chairman → Ssangyong Chairman (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. When Mahindra took over Ssangyong in 2010, a few automotive bloggers speculated that Mahindra would sell the Chairman under their own name. It was never proposed by Mahindra themselves, no such cars were ever sold, this redirect gives credence to what was pure guesswork at best.  Mr.choppers &#124;  ✎  13:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is an automotive dealership that lists the Chairman on their website as the Mahindra Chairman. ~ GB fan 13:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per GB fan. Apparently not guesswork. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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MonsterCr1TiKaL
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * MonsterCr1TiKaL → Cr1TiKaL (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:03, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems to be a non-notable fan nickname. Aqua3993 (talk) 04:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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Tectonic summary of Qinghai
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 * The result of the discussion was Restore article  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Tectonic summary of Qinghai → 2010 Yushu earthquake (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Tectonic summary of Qinghai Province → 2010 Yushu earthquake (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article does not contain a tectonic summary of the entirety of Qinghai, and only includes info that is relevant to the 2010 Yushu quake. I know there is an article in the history but this redirect existing doesn't help readers. They will get taken to a page where there is no relevant info. This redirects needs to go. 122.60.46.122 (talk) 10:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore article in the history of Tectonic summary of Qinghai per WP:BLAR and retarget Tectonic summary of Qinghai Province (a ) to it. Thryduulf (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
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Alatanbagen Taoqi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Alatanbagen Taoqi → 2008 Sichuan earthquake (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This person is not notable. Google only returns 40 results. 122.60.46.122 (talk) 10:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, not mentioned in target. Sun8908 &#8239;Talk 18:12, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Enwiki has nothing about Alatanbagen Taoqi. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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Andrew Grech
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Andrew Grech → Slater & Gordon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, no mention in target article. Securinehigh (talk) 02:26, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. A Search for "Andrew Grech" reveals 7 mentions, 3 of which are for a Maltese athlete. Given that there is no article on any of them, a Search gives the reader better results. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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High-speed rail in Spain
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to High-speed rail in Europe. signed,Rosguill talk 05:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * High-speed rail in Spain → AVE (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * High-Speed Rail Lines in Spain → AVE (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * High-speed rail lines in Spain → AVE (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Spanish High Speed → AVE (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With the introduction of competitor Ouigo, AVE is no longer the only HSR line in Spain. <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 01:03, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. The first of these contains significant page history and needs to be retained for attribution if nothing else. The AVE talk page needs to be updated to reflect this. Mackensen (talk) 11:22, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * High-speed rail in Spain could be made an article again, but if that's not going to happen, High-speed rail in Europe is a potential target for these. - Eureka Lott 13:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with Eureka Lott, either write/restore an article at High-speed rail in Spain and retarget the others to it or retarget them all to High-speed rail in Europe. Whatever happens, these are all very useful search terms that should not be deleted even if there were no attribution reasons. Thryduulf (talk) 13:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note only the first listed redirect was tagged and correctly listed, I've fixed the others now. Thryduulf (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a good target, support High-speed rail in Europe in the absence of a recreated article. The others should be tagged with R avoided double redirect to allow for the possibility of recreation. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 17:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Convert High-speed rail lines in Spain into a set index for the two systems, Add a see also to High-speed rail in Europe; to allow time for someone to (re-)write up an article at High-speed rail in Spain. -- 67.70.27.180 (talk) 02:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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Fatıh Çelik
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:12, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Fatıh Çelik">Fatıh Çelik → Fatih Çelik (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Speedy delete: Typo in title. No need for this. CeeGee 08:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Tag it as R from typo (done). A minor vowel error is precisely the kind of thing that should redirect (particularly in non-English languages); after all, you created the article, and even made the same error yourself. Obviously easily done! ——  Serial  09:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Serial Number S4129. Thryduulf (talk) 14:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Weird arguments by, which are taken by himself with another username. An admin has to check this deception. By the way, the two redirects Fatıh Çelık and Fatıh Çelik are worthless, will never be used in the future by anyone, because their spelling is totally wrong. CeeGee 09:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I beg your pardon? Are you accusing Serial Number 54129 and of being the same person?  -- Tamzin (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 09:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Besides the very odd allegation, I think you don't understand the purpose of redirects. Is it not reasonable that someone would make the same speling error as you did in creating this redirect? — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 09:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that I misread the signatures. Sorry abot that, I apologize. However, also your argument is not understandable. Do we keep all the mistyped redirects for future use even when they are junk? CeeGee 09:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The question is how plausible a typo is. Something like FaTiH CeLiK, I would definitely say to delete, because no one's going to type that in. But for simple typos, like mixing up 'i' and 'ı', yes, we tend to keep those. I'm more conservative than J947 in what I consider "plausible", and he and I often disagree when it comes to typo redirects, but in this case I see this as an extremely plausible typo, of the sort we keep all the time. You can take a look at Category:Redirects from misspellings if you want to see how many of these we have. You might also want to take a look at the essay WP:CHEAP, which guides a lot of how redirects are treated. -- Tamzin (she/they) &#124; o toki tawa mi. 10:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time explaining your POW and for the hints. Please consider that the character "ı" is in Turkish language and does not exist on English language keyboards. So there will be no possibility to type in the misspelled words for English-speaking people. Turks would never type the wrong words because they know the correct word. That is the two redirects are useless. CeeGee 11:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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