Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 3

November 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 3, 2021.

C. solida
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 16%23C. solida

Date and time notation in Taiwan
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Date and time notation in Asia. Without prejudice to the creation of an article if necessary. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 01:44, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Date and time notation in Taiwan → Republic of China calendar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per Talk:Republic_of_China_calendar target does not cover date and time notation in Taiwan prior to 1945 and should indeed be formatted like other articles in Category:Date and time representation by country, which, on a side note, I think is better off titled Category:Date and time notation by country to be consistent with the articles themselves. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Anarchyte  ( talk ) 15:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 23:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is useful, and deficiencies in the article should be addressed at the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:57, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The hits are probably because it is linked from Date and time notation in, which is linked from several related pages (e.g. Date_and_time_notation_in_South_Korea). There has been a discussion at the target article, which has suggested an actual article should be created at this title. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There is nothing to stop a new article overwriting this redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep and format the target like other articles in Category:Date and time representation by country. Jay (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The target is not a member of Category:Date and time representation by country and should not be formatted as if it were. It is an article about a specific calendar, which wasn't even used in Taiwan until decades after the calendar was proclaimed. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Date and time notation in Asia pending expansion into its own separate article. Date and time notation in Asia is the target of several other similar redirects. Also the current target does not (and should not) discuss time notation, whereas the proposed target does. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Date and time notation in Asia where Taiwan is explicitly mentioned. Thryduulf (talk) 13:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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Kansas, Kansas
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 15%23Kansas, Kansas

Jack Shore (fighter)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Jack Shore.  ✗  plicit  03:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Jack Shore (fighter) → List of current UFC fighters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect now redirects to List of current UFC fighters despite there is already existing Jack Shore article which is the correct one. Also, there are no other Jack Shore articles I can find with the search. Thus, I would suggest the whole Jack Shore (fighter) redirect to be removed altogether. Ticelon (talk) 22:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jack Shore as a . Thryduulf (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jack Shore an an R from unnecessary disambiguation per Thryduulf, also it has interesting history (it used to be another article about this guy until redirected it to the list with the possibility of recreation when "[he] has fought at least 3 fights at UFC") that could be worth preserving. Regards,  SONIC   678  22:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jack Shore per Thryduulf -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:14, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Oregon, Oregon
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay (talk) 17:44, 13 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Oregon, Oregon">Oregon, Oregon → Oregon City, Oregon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

We've seen similar things before. feminist (+) 11:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, this was created by a user with a history of creating redirects from made-up terms. If someone can show usage for the term, I will reconsider. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:48, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This redirect is implausible. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 14:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per my !vote in both linked discussions. Plausible search term if you're not familiar with U.S. norms regarding the word "City" in placenames. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tamzin and my comments in the other discussions. Just because a USian will not call a US city in this manner does not mean that nobody will. Thryduulf (talk) 21:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep valid point, i would say, "new york" instead "New York City".Leomk0403 (talk) 12:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:55, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Creme broolay
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:44, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Creme broolay → Crème brûlée (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A phonetic respelling, not really used by anyone as far as I can tell. The few pageviews that this has can probably be attributed to the fact that it's the first suggestion when one types "creme b" or "creme br" in the search bar (the target Crème brûlée does not appear because of the missing diacritic). Un assiolo (talk) 19:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, harmless, plausible and over 300 hits so far this year is nowhere near "not really anybody" or "few pageviews". If people get to the article they want to read it doesn't matter if they go via a redirect or not from either their perspective or the server's. Thryduulf (talk) 22:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, per WP:CHEAP and people who don't know French well could plausibly misspell brûlé as broolay. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 13:10, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. If it's kept, we should probably add the template. Station1 (talk) 16:00, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree, that makes a lot of sense. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 20:21, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per the above and add R from misspelling. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Kh (IPA)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Kh (IPA)">Kh (IPA) → Voiceless uvular fricative (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is not used anywhere and is rather misleading. The IPA symbol for a voiceless uvular fricative is /ꭓ/, while /kʰ/ is an aspirated voiceless velar plosive. Both of these sounds as well as the voiceless velar fricative and voiceless pharyngeal fricative are sometimes transliterated into English as "kh" from non-Latin scripts, however this has nothing to do with the IPA. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is a misleading redirect and an artefact of Eubot. – Uanfala (talk) 12:11, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. For the diagraph "kh", we already the useful redirect Kh (digraph). –Austronesier (talk) 13:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This redirect is misleading, as "IPA" is the wrong term. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete What "kh" represents in IPA is a sequence of a voiceless velar plosive and voiceless glottal fricative. Nardog (talk) 19:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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Barclay Hotel, Estonia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:44, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Barclay Hotel, Estonia">Barclay Hotel, Estonia → List of hotels in Estonia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect target has been redirected to a more broader list of hotels, all of which have articles. Since this one doesn't there is no valid reason for this redirect. Ajf773 (talk) 10:21, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * speed web searching shows that this Tartu hotel is not notable due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. If reliable sources will be finded, then I have no opposition--Estopedist1 (talk) 10:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per Estopedist1's findings and WP:DIRECTORY -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:54, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Detroit subway
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 12%23Detroit subway

NE10 station
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to NE10. Hog Farm Talk 15:35, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


 * NE10 station → Doraville station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Just like my previous nominations at Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_October_31, this redirect is ambiguous with Potong Pasir MRT station and possibly other stations coded NE10. feminist (+) 09:08, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate create a dab page at NE10, and list the various NE10 stations and other uses there, then retarget this redirect to the new dab page -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 11:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:56, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Financial District (Houston)
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:44, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Financial District (Houston)">Financial District (Houston) → Uptown Houston (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Per our article on Houston, Houston has several business districts rather than a single one; moreover, Houston is not usually known for being a financial hub. In any case, Downtown Houston has a better claim to being the central business district of Houston. feminist (+) 09:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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Financial District (Atlanta)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Financial District (Atlanta)">Financial District (Atlanta) → Atlanta Financial Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The current target is too narrow, and there is no single "financial district" in Atlanta. feminist (+) 09:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete A building complex is not a district. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - These are two very different things. — curious  Golden  call me maybe? 06:45, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely synonym -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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SkyTrain (Canada Line)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:42, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="SkyTrain (Canada Line)">SkyTrain (Canada Line) → Canada Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SkyTrain (Millennium Line)">SkyTrain (Millennium Line) → Millennium Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SkyTrain (Expo Line)">SkyTrain (Expo Line) → Expo Line (SkyTrain) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is not how parenthetical disambiguators work: none of the lines are individually referred to as "SkyTrain". feminist (+) 08:27, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: These titles are misleading, as the targets do not have those names. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:17, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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125th station
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 11%23125th station

Richmond Borough
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Borough of Richmond. Consensus is clear that we don't need to wait to point this to the existing DAB. (non-admin closure) User:力 (powera,  π,  ν ) 01:04, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Richmond Borough → Staten Island (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is more likely to refer to the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames. feminist (+) 08:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Borough of Richmond, already a dab page with both places listed. Station1 (talk) 08:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Good find. feminist (+) 11:48, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Station1 -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 11:51, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Borough of Richmond: There are too many potential targets here. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:24, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy retarget to Borough of Richmond There is no reasonable argument for doing anything with this redirect other than targeting it to Borough of Richmond, which lists Richmond Borough as an alternate formulation. Let's just skip the bureaucracy. Mlb96 (talk) 06:42, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Borough of Richmond, "Richmond Borough" doesn't appear in the Staten Island article apart from "Richmond Borough Association of Women Teachers" so it does not appear to be a proper noun for the American one and given Google results (from England) only show the London borough even when this is put in quotes suggests in England that would be expected so I'd suggest there likely isn't a primary topic.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 10:23, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Bridges in Chicago
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 15%23Bridges in Chicago

List of bridges in Boston
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 15%23List of bridges in Boston

List of bridges in Washington, D.C.
<span id="List of bridges in Washington, D.C."> <span id="Bridges in Washington, D.C."> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 15%23List of bridges in Washington, D.C.