Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 30

November 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 30, 2021.

Parker Coppins.
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 8%23Parker Coppins.

Thompson, Sanford, & Ginnochio
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 05:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Thompson, Sanford, & Ginnochio → Charles L. Thompson and associates (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not used and implausible typo. This is a name mixup, the firm is Thompson, Sanders, & Ginocchio, which is itself a redirect to Charles L. Thompson and associates. Note that in addition to Sanford/Sanders, Ginocchio has two spelling errors also. Delete. MB 18:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - "Ginnochio" on its own could have been a plausible typo, but when combined with the Sanders/Sanford mixup, this definitely falls in the 'implausible' category. ModernDayTrilobite (talk) 16:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Bhutanese natinal anthem
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 8%23Bhutanese natinal anthem

Robert George Adams
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 8%23Robert George Adams

Template:Poptoday 1/testcase
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Poptoday 1/testcase → Template:Poptoday 1/testcases (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

We don't need this redirection because we're missing the letter S. Q28 left a message at 07:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, there isn't any point in deleting it; deleting R from moves sometimes cause problems so just leave it. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 18:52, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - was at this title for 2 years, is harmless, and deleting this could break something we don't know about. No harm in keeping, potential harm in deleting. Hog Farm Talk 20:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per others. Huggums537 (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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Nevisian Heroes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Nevisian Heroes → Nevis (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nevis has a section on notable people, but it seems unlikely anyone would search for them or refer to them as "Nevisian Heroes". Lennart97 (talk) 09:20, 30 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 10:38, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete at a stretch it might refer to the two Nevisians (Joseph Nathaniel France and Simeon Daniel) among the six people listed at Heroes' Day, but it's such a rare phrase in the real world that I think it's a WP:R "novel or very obscure synonym". 61.239.39.90 (talk) 04:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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MOS:ARABIC
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Manual of Style/Arabic. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


 * MOS:ARABIC → Wikipedia:List of commonly misused English words (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading wikilink; maybe a better redirect would be to Manual of Style/Words to watch but there could be other things that people are searching for (such as English transliteration of Arabic script). —AFreshStart (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:Arabic redirects to Help:Arabic, which is about using Arabic script in articles. Manual of Style/Arabic exists and should at the very least appear in a hatnote from this redirect's target if it isn't there. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Manual of Style/Arabic and add hatnotes to Help:Arabic and the current target. While this has pointed to the current content since 2016 (in various locations, it was moved out of the manual of style in 2018) it is only lightly used (22 views this year, 46 last year) and the only incoming link (Talk:Muhammad Sa'id al-Ashmawi) relates to content at Manual of Style/Arabic not the present target. This suggests to me that it is more likely what people using the redirect are actually looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Commnet WP:Arabic should be a disambiguation page, for the helppage and the MOSpage, and WP:WikiProject Arab world -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 22:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 'Retarget with hatnote per Thryduulf. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 23:45, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget with hatnote, per Thryduulf and Snood1205. -- The Anome (talk) 12:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose disambiguation. Shortcuts are ambiguous by their nature; it is rarely appropriate to disambiguate them, and this case certainly does not meet that bar. No preference as to where this points, just that it points to one page. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 07:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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Phacophytin
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:05, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Phacophytin → Pheophytin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

implausible typo for target, not mentioned at target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. Mdewman6 (talk) 07:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The page has seen only 4 hits this year (excluding those since the nomination) and the occurrences as Google hits appear to be cases of OCR mistakes in scanned texts, where e has been recorded as c. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Mike Turnbull that the few search results can be attributed to incorrect OCR. ev iolite   (talk)  13:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I did not consider this might be a common OCR error for the alternative spelling phaeophytin. As such, I'd be fine with keeping as long as it is properly tagged with R from misspelling, but deletion is fine too since it gets so little use. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I have added the proper rcats below the redirect so it's there if kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

<p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: For further consideration of the late keep !vote. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:24, 23 November 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Redirects are WP:CHEAP and this one doesn't create any ambiguity. In fact, when I looked this term up, I found several papers incorrectly referring to this compound as "phacophytin", probably due to the aforementioned OCR mistakes. Someone may look up phacophytin on Wikipedia reading one of these papers, and will find the correct spelling and the compound. (JayPlaysStuff &#124; talk to me &#124; What I've been up to) 02:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per . Huggums537 (talk) 22:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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Succession to the Barbadian throne
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Monarchy of Barbados.  Jay (talk) 04:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Succession to the Barbadian throne → Succession to the British throne (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Proposed deletion, Barbadian monarchy abolished. WanukeX (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Monarchy of Barbados (and remove the hatnote from that section). Per WP:DEFUNCT, the fact that the monarchy was abolished is not a deletion rationale. As long as it is getting use as a search term, we should point readers to information about the historical situation. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 09:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Monarchy of Barbados and remove the hatnote from that section per the 61 IP. This redirect is still getting a fair amount of use as a search term, and deleting it might inconvenience readers, so it's best to redirect where content exists. Regards, SONIC   678  14:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Monarchy of Barbados (and remove the hatnote from that section). Huggums537 (talk) 22:17, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as we don't have such redirects for the other former Commonwealth realm thrones. GoodDay (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Monarchy of Barbados. <span style="font-family:'Linux Libertine','Georgia','Times',serif"> Peter Ormond &#128172;  18:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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Dark-emitting diode
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 7%23Dark-emitting diode

U.S. Army Intelligence
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 * The result of the discussion was Unify both at same target.


 * Retarget U.S. Army Intelligence to United States Army Intelligence and Security Command
 * Keep US Army intelligence (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * U.S. Army Intelligence → Military Intelligence Corps (United States Army) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * US Army intelligence → United States Army Intelligence and Security Command (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Why would similar titles with the differences only being the lack of dots and capitalisation link to different articles? At least one of them needs to be retargeted or something.  — twotwofourtysix (My talk page and contributions) 12:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 03:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Unify at United States Army Intelligence and Security Command, which, if I'm reading the articles correctly, is the broader-topic article of the two, and which is referred to simply as "Army Intelligence" by the ODNI here. That said, I wouldn't be strongly opposed to unifying at the other. The important thing is that they have the same target. Whichever the result, the target should have a hatnote to the other, although ideally their ledes would make the relationship clear enough as to make a hatnote unnecessary. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 19:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Unify at United States Army Intelligence and Security Command and hatnote target to the other per Tamzin. Huggums537 (talk) 22:23, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Unify both at the second one's target there per Tamzin and Huggums537, and add a hatnote to the first one's target as well per both of them. This course of action should help clear up the confusion people may have regarding their targets. Regards, SONIC   678  04:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Pair-instability hypernova
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Pair-instability supernova.  MBisanz  talk 04:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Pair-instability hypernova → Superluminous supernova (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, neither at Pair-instability supernova, nor anywhere else on the English Wikipedia currently. Used to point at Hypernova before being fixed as a double redirect at that point, and Hypernova indeed seems good enough for a target to me. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:15, 13 November 2021 (UTC) <p class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  13:01, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Pair-instability supernova as a R from alternate name since it is synonymous.  -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hypernova per nom, where this term is described in a more detailed manner. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 12:00, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That would be a disservice to the readership. It is a synonym of pair-instability supernova. What they are looking for is that article; not other forms of hypernovae at the general hypernova aticle. -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 02:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Pair-instability supernova as a R from alternate name per 65.92.246.43. Huggums537 (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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Sandrembi Chaisra
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 7%23Sandrembi Chaisra

Keibu Keioiba
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 7%23Keibu Keioiba