Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 9

November 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 9, 2021.

Adlib
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ad lib (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 01:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Adlib → Ad Lib, Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should be retargeted to the disambiguation page, Ad lib (disambiguation). It is at least as likely that the reader is looking for the musical or theatrical phrase as for a company. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ad lib (disambiguation) as a plausible spelling variant. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ad lib (disambiguation): There are too many potential targets here. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 01:22, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 01:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ad lib (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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Ricardo May
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Ricardo May → Pendragon Records (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of a Ricardo May at the target article or anywhere else that I could find. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: The relationship between this redirect and its target is unclear. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 01:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - No information about the redirect subject in the main article. — curious  Golden  call me maybe? 09:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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Myanmar People Defensive War
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17%23Myanmar People Defensive War

Daddy Brown
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  13:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Daddy Brown → Robert A. Brown (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, an internet search does not suggest that this phrase is primarily associated with the current target, or anything else in particular (although I would guess that this is probably a nickname used by some of the BU or MIT student body). Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13(talk) 20:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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Troy NY
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . clpo13(talk) 20:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Troy NY → Troy, New York (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Move to Troy, NY. The typical convention is to use a comma to divide the city name and the state code. I somehow missed that Troy, NY is already a valid redirect. Bad research on my part; I apologize. I withdraw nomination and argue for keep per WP:CHEAP and its >1/day visitation numbers. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 20:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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Nick Jr. (around the world)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Nick Jr. (around the world)">Nick Jr. (around the world) → Category:Nick Jr. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely disambiguation, unclear what utility this redirect serves regardless of target. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 20:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per my comments at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 16. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:21, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete this cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no relative article or section. Dimadick (talk) 09:53, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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Bobby Laurie
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Robert Laurie (journalist).  ✗  plicit  14:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Bobby Laurie → Take Off! with The Savvy Stews (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Robert Laurie (journalist), subject has his own page and doesn't need to point to the show. Rusalkii (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect but to Robert Laurie a disambiguation page. Or if he is the only Robert Laurie known as Bobby then move Robert Laurie (journalist) to Bobby Laurie. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:46, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Robert Laurie (journalist) and put a hatnote there to Robert Laurie. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Robert Laurie (journalist) unless it can be shown that any other WP:N Robert Laurie is known as "Bobby Laurie". feminist (t) 03:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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Rachmanianoff
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17%23Rachmanianoff

Saints
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17%23Saints

Aurat (Malaysian and Indonesian nomenclature for Intimate parts in Islam)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Aurat (Malaysian and Indonesian nomenclature for Intimate parts in Islam)">Aurat (Malaysian and Indonesian nomenclature for Intimate parts in Islam) → Intimate parts in Islam (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Nothing links to this redirect and it is highly unlikely someone will stumble upon it just by typing. It is already covered by more intuitive redirects Aurat (Malay language) and Aurat (Indonesian language).VR talk 09:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Delete. No issues from me. Thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 12:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:09, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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Derner (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist (t) 02:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Derner (disambiguation)">Derner (disambiguation) → Derner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

To be deleted. Derner is changed to the list-article Estopedist1 (talk) 09:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Valid and useful search term. Most readers may not know the difference between a DAB page and a list article, so this redirect is still helpful to them, and it's still serving its purpose. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Restore disambiguation footer, and add "Gordon F. Derner School of Psychology" to the list, since it exists at Adelphi University -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per CycloneYoris. A surname page is a type of disambiguation page so this is a perfectly valid WP:INTDABLINK. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. A surname page is most certainly not a type of disambiguation page. A surname page is a type of SIA, which is a type of list article; see WP:NOTDAB. A DAB page is a non-article page; see MOS:DAB. Chalk and cheese. Narky Blert (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Set indexes are, for practical purposes, also types of disambiguation pages. The only reason they are separate is to work around the very (often overly) rigid interpretation of style guidelines for disambiguation pages. Thryduulf (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:G14, "Unnecessary disambiguation pages", contradicts itself.
 * "[G14 applies to a] redirect that ends in "(disambiguation)" but does not redirect to a disambiguation page or a page that performs a disambiguation-like function" (i.e. G14 does not apply to a page which performs a disambiguation-like function).
 * "G14 also applies to pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists)" (i.e. G14 does). Narky Blert (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The original formulation of that part of G14 was "G14 also applies to orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists)", added by Shhhnotsoloud following the discussion now at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 74. They clearly show that the intent is clearly that redirects ending in "(disambiguation)" which target pages such as lists and set indexes that perform a disambiguation-like function cannot be speedily deleted under criterion G14. Previous RfD discussions have repeatedly found either consensus that such should be kept or ended in no consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 01:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I know. That's why I didn't !vote. It doesn't change the fact that the guideline contradicts itself. Narky Blert (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not brilliantly worded, but I don't think it actually contradicts itself. However this is a discussion that belongs at WT:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
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File:Sebastian shaw.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * [[File:Sebastian shaw.jpg]] → File:Sebastian Shaw (actor, born 1905).jpg (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused file redirect that resulted from a file rename of a duplicatively named file. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment FILEREDIRECt was copied from COMMONS without considering the differences between a Wikipedia and Commons. (ie. we do not distribute files across different projects, needing to keep redirects around, so that files will still work) The Filespace instructions copied from COMMONS without considering that a Wikipedia does not distribute files across multiple projects makes fixing files problematic. That fils can be simply and easily renamed with the recent versions of MediaWiki, and have no difference in workload with renaming an article, should be put into consideration with the filespace rules when dealing with a single project's files (ie. not on COMMONS) -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 22:34, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * See this discussion. The file had been at this title for over 10 years, thus the existence of old links is highly likely. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:02, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. Unlike what the IP says, Wikipedia is in the business of distributing images - even if not between multiple Wikimedia projects, images on Wikipedia are linked from many places on the internet. Thryduulf (talk) 14:32, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya → Kirby (series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was tagged for speedy deletion as nonsense, which it seems to be, but since it has existed since 2008, I thought it deserved to go to RFD in case any editor could understand why it was created and has not been deleted in 13 years. I couldn't find any reference to "Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya" on the target article or anywhere on Wikipedia. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Obvious vandalism. I'm surprised it took this long for it to be deleted. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Liz and CycloneYoris. — curious  Golden  call me maybe? 09:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Redirect is simply gibberish. 👨🏻‍💻 Rng0286 (☎️ talk) ✍️ conts ;) Oh no (☑️ rights) D'oh! 22:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:10, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: This redirect is pure vandalism. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 01:27, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This redirect is not vandalism and not nonsense and this can easily be verified with a Google search. this website, though archive.org did not capture the image, seemed to be host a meme about Meta Knight, as can be attested here and here. As this website has not existed since 2009, and it's an unlikely way someone would try to find the article anyway, delete, but not as vandalism. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 03:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Nobody will search for this. The only link between this gibberish and Meta Knight is some meme from 2008 that very few people will remember. If you're familiar with "Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya" you are familiar with Meta Knight and Kirby. (JayPlaysStuff &#124; talk to me &#124; What I've been up to) 02:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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