Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 8

October 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 8, 2021.

Pencak Silat Hall
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Pencak Silat Hall → Taman Mini Indonesia Indah (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target page. Geschichte (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: The relationship between these subjects is unclear. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 22:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Judging by Pencak silat, this is ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:10, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete vague at best. It's like "kung fu hall". -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Borders
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Border (disambiguation).  ✗  plicit  00:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Borders → Border (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See below. There are 30 mainspace links left that seem correct, 2 tagged with dn, around 28 were incorrect, there were around 14 for Scottish Borders, 11 for Borders Group, 2 for Border Reivers (rugby) and 1 for Borders (M.I.A. song). There is also perhaps 1 or 2 other links perhaps for another topic. Perhaps no primary topic and retarget to Border (disambiguation). Google results seem to show mainly the group and the Scottish Borders, images seems to show picture borders so if an article can be created on that perhaps there's no primary topic for the singular either. The Border article probably qualified as a broad-concept article for the Scottish Borders but not for the group. Views[] show Border got 6,456 views but the group got 6,002 and the Scottish Borders got 5,078. who suggested nominating.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Border (disambiguation): This term is too broad to have a single target. Indeed, some families have variations of this as their surnames. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 21:33, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Border (disambiguation). This is about the primary topic of "borders": my sense is that it isn't the plural of border, but I acknowledge this is difficult to prove quantitatively. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. Redirects from commonplace plurals don't help searching, and collect bad links if there are other meanings, especially when capitalised; as in this case, where OP found that around half the links to it were wrong. Narky Blert (talk) 14:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Border (disambiguation). Many different possible targets, disambiguation is obvious way to go here. It looks like there are even more entries that should be added to the dab page. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:28, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Degeneration
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Degeneracy.  ✗  plicit  00:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Degeneration → Social degeneration (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Degeneracy. Not seeing a primary topic for this term; Lexico defines "degeneration" as the state of being "degenerate": "Having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline", which in a social sense is covered under Decadence. Eight of the top ten results on Google Scholar relate to degenerative disease, and Google image results are nearly all related to macular degeneration. Previous incoming mainspace links have been disambiguated. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2021 (UTC) edited 00:40, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Degeneracy: There are too many potential targets here. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 21:38, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Most of the articles in the search results are WP:PTMs, but there are enough articles to create a short disambiguation page (Degeneration (algebraic geometry), Degeneration (medicine), Degeneration (Nordau), Dégénération). It's probably better for readers to keep everything on the Degeneracy page, though. - Eureka Lott 15:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
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Highlands
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Highland (disambiguation).  ✗  plicit  00:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Highlands → Highland (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I've just checked the links-in. 40 out of 45 were wrong. 27 (60%) related to Scottish Highlands; others included places in California, Florida, Mauritius and New Jersey. Retarget to Highland (disambiguation). Narky Blert (talk) 16:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Highland (disambiguation): There are too many potential targets here. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:38, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with redirecting, some of the uses like the album aren't directly related to highlands even though the Highland article bay be a broad-concept article for Scottish Highlands. Borders should probably also be looked at since most links appear to be incorrect, I'm going to check the links for Borders which may need retargeting given another editor pointed it to Borders Group a few years ago.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk )  18:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Just done, 30 mainspace links seem correct, 2 tagged with dn, 28 incorrect, 14 for Scottish Borders, 11 for Borders Group, 2 for Border Reivers (rugby) and 1 for Borders (M.I.A. song).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:16, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The 5 links to Highlands which were correct mostly relate to specific highlands on some other part of the globe for which we have no article.
 * If you nominate for RFD, I'll have a look and form an opinion. 58 bad links out of 88 is pretty poor, if not diabolical. Feel free to ping me. (I've memoed myself to do a WP:BPAT check on border; the reverse misspelling boarder is already a DAB.) Narky Blert (talk) 19:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Highland (disambiguation). I don't think the primary topic for "highlands" is the plural of highland. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Iraqi National Counter-Terrorism Force (INCTF)
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  00:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Iraqi National Counter-Terrorism Force (INCTF) → Iraqi Special Operations Forces (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RCOSTLY. We already have unambiguous and  linking there, while relatively harmless I believe we generally delete redirects where the disambiguating phrase is an initialism of the base page name. No incoming links, and has never got more than 3 hits day (usually 0 or 1). 85.67.32.244 (talk) 15:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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Celtic Orthodox Church in the United States
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 16%23Celtic Orthodox Church in the United States

Trump conspiracy
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump.  ✗  plicit  00:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Trump conspiracy → Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

see List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump many of them are unrelated to the 2016 presidential campaign Lunacats (talk) 10:44, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump, a far more likely search target post-45. This was originally (in 2015) a redirect to a section of the current target describing a false flag conspiracy in which Trump was believed to be trying to secure the Republican nomination in order to guarantee Hillary Clinton's election, which doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article at all now. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump: He has promoted many conspiracy theories. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:39, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump per above to avoid ASTONISHing readers. Why target it somewhere where a 2015 theory isn't mentioned, when it'll do to make it go to a more general target where a lot of Trump's conspiracy theories are described? Regards, SONIC  678  19:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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Unfulfilled religious prophecies
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:16, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Unfulfilled religious prophecies → Unfulfilled Christian religious predictions (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_December_2; the current target is much too narrow. Hog Farm Talk 02:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'm not seeing the problem with keeping the redirect around unless/until someone creates an article about unfulfilled prophecies in other religions. If someone, in fact, has created an article about unfulfilled prophecies in other religions, then this page could be turned into a disambiguation page.  (I would have held the same view of the other link as well.)  --B (talk) 11:11, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The counterargument would be that the redirect should not exist if there is no suitable target, and the only possible target is too narrow to be suitable. Better that users see the search results than be WP:ASTONISHED. Mlb96 (talk) 05:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Note that there were three incoming links and all were from See alsos. I have replaced them with the current Christian target. Jay (talk) 13:02, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's a rather well-known as-yet unfulfilled prophecy which is certainly not Christian - Messiah in Judaism. Narky Blert (talk) 17:03, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Then ... make it a disambiguation page? --B (talk) 14:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: This redirect's target displays one of our inherent biases. It could also be expanded into its own article. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There's certainly room for an article, though it might need heavy moderation to maintain NPOV. I can think of at least two groups which have prophesied multiple dates for the End of the World, all of which have come and gone without anyone noticing any difference. RationalWiki is by no means RS, but it could be a good place to locate examples and citations. (My rare contributions there have been sourced to enwiki standards; some of my accompanying polemic could get zapped here for various good reasons.) Narky Blert (talk) 20:01, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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Chinese drama
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:37, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Chinese drama → Theatre of China (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Chinese television series seems to be the dominant topic from quick searches, but not sure if there is a primary topic, so perhaps disambiguate? -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:18, 1 October 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Disambiguate (drafted) between these two options and several others. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they)
 * Retarget to Drama. It's a rather sparse section, and maybe it should be expanded. However, there is an article on Drama and within it there is a section on Asian Drama, and within that there is a subsection on China.  Seems the logical place to redirect "Chinese drama" is that section. Coastside (talk) 21:44, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Changing my vote to disambiguate. Tamzin's right. The section at Drama points to Theatre of China, and that's an entry in the (proposed) dab. Coastside (talk) 00:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Ꜵ and its doppelgänger
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget one, delete (former Unicode lowercase)  . Hog Farm Talk 17:32, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ꜵ">Ꜵ → List of Latin-script letters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ꜵ (former Unicode lowercase)">Ꜵ (former Unicode lowercase) → Ligature (writing) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Of the 22 conflicting pairs of redirects identified in the cleanup of, this was the only pair where the "correct" title's target was not an obvious improvement on the "incorrect" title's. Since Ligature (writing) is a significantly narrower target than List of Latin-script letters, I suggest that we retarget ' to that and delete ' like the other 21 (one of which has already been deleted, and the other 20 of which I've tagged for G6 speedy. (Or delete the former and suppressredirect-move the latter there. Either/or.) Courtesy ping Pppery based on our discussion of this at . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:05, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If this is retargeted to List of Latin-script letters, then it should be refined to the specific section List of Latin-script letters. However, it seems to me that the article section Ligature (writing) provides more information about the character than the list does, so I would prefer retargeting it there. Delete the (former unicode lowercase) title once this discussion is closed, in any case. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:46, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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PDM University Modern Industrial Estate metro station
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus for maintaining the status quo is clearly evident. Further discussion about what action to take with other similar redirects should occur at Talk:Delhi Metro. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:06, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * PDM University Modern Industrial Estate metro station → Modern Industrial Estate metro station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * PDM University Pandit Shree Ram Sharma metro station → Pandit Shree Ram Sharma metro station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion reason: The official name was Modern Industrial Estate metro station. PDM is the title sponsor, but not the official name. PDM has used this page for advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AkshayKakkar (talk • contribs) 05:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. After the nom moved the page to the new target, he removed mention of the old name. Question to : wasn't the station known as PDM University Modern Industrial Estate metro station at one time? See image for reference. And it's now known as PDM University Pandit Shree Ram Sharma metro station? See image for reference. Jay (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. As mentioned, the nom, two weeks before this RfD, to Pandit Shree Ram Sharma metro station. The nomination is technically malformed (lists the wrong target). 85.67.32.244 (talk) 16:11, 8 October 2021 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as, if the station were known as this, officially or not. We have for example, even though "Emirates" is the name of a sponsor, and the stadium goes by other names for some purposes. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 16:09, 8 October 2021 (UTC)  WP:STRIKESOCK -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thats not how it works for Delhi metro. Title brand gets the rights to put on ads at the metro station. For example Sikanderpur metro station has Bank of baroda as title sponsor . The official name is still Sikanderpur metro station. List of official names can be found here: . Even the audio announcement is Sikanderpur metro station, and not Bank of Baroda Sikander metro station . — Preceding unsigned comment added by AkshayKakkar (talk • contribs) 14:26, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As per this article, outdoor and indoor advertisement space, painting of the station in a brands’ colour, prefix/ suffix to the existing name of the station are the key areas offered to the licensees. However, the renamed station is not made a part of the Metro’s announcement systems inside trains or at stations. Some of the prominent stations that have been renamed are MG Road, Huda City Centre, Noida City Centre, ITO, Janpath among others. Jay (talk) 15:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * As I said, Keep... if the station was known as this, officially or not. See WP:OFFICIALNAME. My !vote was and is a qualified keep; if no evidence can be shown that this name is common, it can be deleted. We still have targeting Alexandra Palace, though that has never been its official name. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 17:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)  WP:STRIKESOCK -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment for Deletion since there are as many as 50 metro stations with a title sponsor, but none of them are known with their sponsor name. Even the news articles call them without their sponsors name Akshay (talk) 15:58, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Apart from anything else, the pages were at these titles. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The bigger discussion that should happen (perhaps at Talk:Delhi Metro) is what should be the outcome for the other re-branded stations in the case they start having redirects. There are 250+ station articles listed in List of Delhi Metro stations and I have not checked to see how many of them have sponsor redirects. Articles with mention of the sponsor name (even though unsourced) are potential sponsor redirects. See Honda 2 Wheelers Delhi University North Campus, Dabur ITO, Wave City Center, etc. The Delhi Metro website has published this advertiser's list where 53 stations and their sponsors are listed under SEMI NAMING/CO-BRANDING. This TOI article mentions Wave Noida City Center, Jagran Vaishali, ONGC Shivaji Stadium, Vodafone Belvedere Towers, IndusInd Bank Cybercity, and Micromax Moulsari Avenue. These are sources enough for inclusion in the respective articles, unlike the current redirect under discussion, where we have only photographic evidence (which is probably good enough for this redirect). Jay (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * How often do these sponsors change? I'm certainly inclined to keep, since these are or were valid real-world names for their respective topics. But if sponsorship changes frequently, more often than annually, I could see the possibility of a maintenance headache. --BDD (talk) 22:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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Iraqi terrorists
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget both  to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:56, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Iraqi terrorists → List of bombings during the Iraq War (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Terrorism in Iraq → List of bombings during the Iraq War (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn’t look like the right target. What about ISIL? Delete Actually I change my vote to retarget both to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Retarget both to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. Jay (talk) 19:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Iraqi terrorism
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget both  to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:56, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Iraqi terrorism → Iraqi insurgency (2003–2011) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Terrorism in iraq → Iraqi insurgency (2003–2011) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Clearly not the right target. Delete Actually I change my vote to retarget both to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Iraq as a better target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:53, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Iraqi Special Operations Forces, whence targets. "Terrorism" is used more often there, albeit in the titles of organisations. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2021 (UTC)  WP:STRIKESOCK -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But that target is not about terrorism in Iraq, it's about counter-terrorism in Iraq. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's why we have, although we haven't nor . It just seemed the article with the most information about Iraqi terrorism. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 11:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC)  WP:STRIKESOCK -- Tavix  ( talk ) 03:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget both to Category:Terrorism in Iraq. Jay (talk) 19:03, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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Yasaul
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Yesaul. --BDD (talk) 22:02, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Yasaul → Hovuni (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of the subject at the target, or any other indication that they are the same place or otherwise related. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:23, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment the article formerly mentioned "Yesaul" as an alternative name, but it was removed from the target in August by an IP editor whose entire contribution history consists of removing alternative names from about 100 other Armenian villages on the same day. That said, even if the IP's edits were rolled back, I think Yesaul rather than this tiny village would be the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 10:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Yesaul per IP as an R from alternative spelling. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:39, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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List of burial places of Islamic figures
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:38, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


 * List of burial places of Islamic figures → List of burial places of Abrahamic figures (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not sure that the target is precise. I would presume that there are non-Abrahamic Islamic figures, such as the tomb of Imam Asim, a mud tomb in the Taklamakan Desert, and the Ordam shrine at the mazar of Ali Arslan Khan. (see article for info on the Islamic figures' burial sites). It might be worthwhile to split this out into its own article. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 02:50, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFD, "confusion". We could refine it to, but that's a bit misleading as there's no list in that section (and I am not sure if "Figure" instead of "Figures" is intentional). There are figures such as Christ in Islam who are excluded by the "exclusively" of the heading. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: This redirect leads to a list that is too broad. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:46, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree that it to broad, should be something such as "Quranic figures." Should be left to notable figures most associated with Abrahamic faiths.Doremon764 (talk) 23:56, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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