Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 10

September 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 10, 2021.

Halocene
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 19%23Halocene

Delphi programming
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Delphi (software). signed,Rosguill talk 04:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delphi programming → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delphi programming language → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delphi language → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delphi (language) → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delphi (Computer Language) → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delphi (programming language) → Object Pascal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is not used anywhere, and its counterpart doesn't exist for other languages. It also doesn't really fit an article title's style, so it's not likely somebody will search for this phrasing. It should probably be deleted. DanielPharos (talk) 16:52, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Please note that my argumentation is only directed towards the first one ("Delphi programming"); the rest were added by others. --DanielPharos (talk) 10:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Delphi (software).
 * ,, , and , all of which redirect to Object Pascal, should be bundled into this nomination.
 * (IIRC Delphi was a POS, but probably an encyclopedic POS.) Narky Blert (talk) 20:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Does that mean that all other " programming" variants should also be created, and that all articles linking to Object Pascal should be checked if they shouldn't link to Delphi (software) instead? --DanielPharos (talk) 21:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * (1) No. (2} Probably unnecessary, it's unlikely that anyone would link to Object Pascal if they were thinking of Delphi. Narky Blert (talk) 22:02, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * (1) Then I don't understand why this one should be kept? (2) Unfortunately, due to the other redirects you mentioned and the "redirect resolving" that gets done on bluelinks, most of them now do. --DanielPharos (talk) 22:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Bundled and tagged other redirects above, as requested by . CycloneYoris talk! 00:58, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Retarget per Narky Blert, along with the others. As I recall, the Delphi language was a proprietary variant on object-oriented Pascal that could only be compiled by Delphi's own software. I knew Turbo Pascal pretty well in the mid-90s and was excited about Delphi, but switched pretty quickly to Java, and then went into accounting. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Turbo Pascal for DOS was a good system in its day, but was a straight rip-off of Blue Label Pascal for CP/M (we have mentions, but no article). (I upgraded from Pascal to C.) Narky Blert (talk) 21:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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Tiffany (name)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Tiffany. (non-admin closure) feminist (+) 15:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Tiffany (name) → Tiffany (given name) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should this redirect to the current target (Tiffany (given name)) or to Tiffany, the section of the dab page which also links to Tiffany (surname) and lists people known mononymously as "Tiffany"? My gut feeling is that neither given name nor surname are primary over the other, but I'm not certain enough to boldy retarget. Thryduulf (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak support retarget - my gut suggests that Tiffany is a far more common first name than last name, but I can't think of how to go about gathering statistics on that. Either way, the Tiffany dab page has links to all likely usages of Tiffany as a name. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:46, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Tiffany as R from incomplete disambiguation. Links to name pages invariably collect bad links (having fixed over 2,000, I should know). Links to DAB pages get fixed. There are at least three people known by the mononym Tiffany, and both Tiffany (given name) and Tiffany (surname) already exist. Narky Blert (talk) 19:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Tiffany. Incomplete disambiguations always lead to a dab page.—Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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D. H. Williams
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of people with the surname Williams with no prejudice against the creation of a DAB page, if someone wishes to start a draft. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:47, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * D. H. Williams → Daniel Hale Williams (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * D H Williams → Daniel Hale Williams (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as ambiguous, since the article doesn't indicate he was known as "D. H.", and a Search for "D. H. Williams" returns several other people. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:51, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Do we have articles about any of the other people who might be known as D. H. Williams? Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:46, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of people with the surname Williams where I will add the current target and the three others I've found who are or might be referred to as such - David Henry Williams, David Hiram Williams and Dudley Williams (biochemist). The list there is extremely incomplete though. Thryduulf (talk) 16:57, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. My first thought was the biochemist, who I knew, and who always used his middle initial. Narky Blert (talk) 18:50, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Or, better still, disambiguate. Narky Blert (talk) 20:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. That target serves the same purpose as a disambiguation page, no need for extra work. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Surname pages collect bad links which never get fixed. DAB pages don't. Narky Blert (talk) 22:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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MIGY
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 19%23MIGY

Order of the Polar Star (Yakutia)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 04:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Order of the Polar Star (Yakutia)">Order of the Polar Star (Yakutia) → Order of the Polar Star (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A redirect to a DAB page on which the only mention is a circular link. In use in Vitali Smirnov. Delete to encourage article creation. Narky Blert (talk) 11:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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SpongeBob
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to SpongeBob SquarePants. Show is primary topic (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 11:52, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * SpongeBob → SpongeBob SquarePants (character) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I am not proposing deletion, just inquiring about the appropriate target. Since this redirect's creation in 2004, it has targeted the show page SpongeBob SquarePants, character page SpongeBob SquarePants (character), or the dab page SpongeBob SquarePants. Editors have rotated through the options without any discussion outside of edit summaries (that I can find). What is the appropriate target? Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it should redirect to the dab page, where both the show page and the character page are linked. 2409:4061:2DCF:43B5:E317:7091:533B:2FF1 (talk) 05:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to SpongeBob SquarePants. Since the show article is the WP:primary topic for SpongeBob SquarePants, this R from short name should similarly target the article about the show. A hatnote easily leads users to the article about the character with an extra click. Also, I am not sure what dab page the nom is referring to, as there is no SpongeBob SquarePants (disambiguation) (though the show is listed in the "See also" at Sponge (disambiguation)). Mdewman6 (talk) 18:26, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn’t type the link in correctly. The redirect did used to go to SpongeBob SquarePants (disambiguation) at some point before the dab page’s deletion in 2010. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 18:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that retargeting the link to the main series article is the best solution. —  Paper Luigi  T • C 00:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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2015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 21%232015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team

Nibin-Nogrim
<span id="Ibûn"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 17%23Nibin-Nogrim

Faculty of Chemical Technology
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  ✗  plicit  05:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Faculty of Chemical Technology → University of Chemistry and Technology, Prague (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was an article and was brought to AfD. I then closed it (nac) as redirect to this target, but on 2nd thought, I believe this should be deleted, as "Faculty of Chemical Technology" can refer to the faculty for many other universities, not just this university. Natg 19 (talk) 00:19, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. There's a Faculty of Chemical Technology in University of Chemical Technology and Metallurgy, Bulgaria, University of Chemistry and Technology, Prague, Czechia, Kaunas University of Technology, Lithuania, and Poznań University of Technology, Poland; and also a Faculty of Chemical Technology and Biotechnology in Budapest University of Technology and Economics, Hungary. Narky Blert (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Draft DAB page added. Narky Blert (talk) 11:54, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks for putting that together. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate per Narky Blert. I participated in the AfD but apparently none of us did the due diligence to see if this was unique to the University in Prague. So disambiguate for all such mentions on WP. Certainly worth preserving the history rather than deleting. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:37, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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