Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 2

September 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 2, 2021.

U.S. Route 14 Business (Pierre, South Dakota)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:09, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * U.S. Route 14 Business (Pierre, South Dakota) → Special routes of U.S. Route 14 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:HOAX. No evidence this business route ever existed. It was possibly conflated with a truck bypass that does exist. Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 23:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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U.S. Route 13 Truck (Prospect Park, Pennsylvania)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * U.S. Route 13 Truck (Prospect Park, Pennsylvania) → Special routes of U.S. Route 13 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:HOAX. I deleted the section where this was claimed to exist, because there was no evidence of it existing dating back to 2013 in Google Street View. The section was completely unreferenced. Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 23:05, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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In defense of bad music
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 15%23In defense of bad music

Rapid aging
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Progeroid syndromes. signed,Rosguill talk 05:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Rapid aging → Soap opera rapid aging syndrome (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should probably be retargeted to progeria or progeroid syndromes, perhaps with a hatnote at the eventual target Mlb96 (talk) 19:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment progeroid syndromes might be a better target since "Premature aging"redirects there. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to progeroid syndromes per nom. Winston (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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Alessandro Micheli
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hog Farm Talk 04:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Alessandro Micheli → Pankow (German band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Davide Ragonesi → Pankow (German band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not members of the German band Pankow. Their only mention is in the writing credits for one song on the compilation album Funky Alternatives Seven for an Italian band named, which has no article on English Wikipedia. Micheli isn't even mentioned in the Italian Wikipage, while Ragonesi is listed as a former band member. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Treasure Trove Cove
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:07, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Treasure Trove Cove → Banjo-Kazooie (video game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. Searching indicate this is the "second level" of this video game. Without being mentioned, fails WP:ASTONISH MB</b> 14:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Google suggests that there are no other significant uses of this phrase that aren't related to the video game. Wikipedia is not a game guide, but if readers are looking for information on an element of the video game, they won't be astonished arriving at an article about the game itself. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: This redirect is not mentioned in the target article. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 08:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is another case of an element of a game, book, etc being unique to that work but not being notable enough to justify the existence of a redirect. Winston (talk) 11:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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Paid advocacy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 13%23Paid advocacy

Kang Hye-won
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Iz*One. Redirected to related topic and added R with possibilities (non-admin closure)  —  Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  07:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Kang Hye-won → Kang Ye-won (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Confusing redirect. It seems that the article Kang Ye-won was under this title for a few hours until the original author moved the article, but I don't see why someone else would make the same typo. The target looks like a WP:SURPRISE to me as a person searching for this title is more likely to be looking for someone who's called Kang Hye-won, for example ko:강혜원. Stefan2 (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete per nominator. Clear WP:R case. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 23:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * If anything, it could be retargeted to Iz*One, the band which ko:강혜원 belonged to. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:50, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Iz*One per Stefan2. I don't see why not. Note that Kang Hye-won (singer) already redirects there, though since she's a former member, we may need to update those if she becomes independently notable, joins another group, etc. --BDD (talk) 03:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Iz*One per nom and BDD. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. And then anybody can make redirect. Sawol (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Iz*One per Stefan2. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Iz*One. The name is without a doubt most associated with the former Iz*one member. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 00:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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Live your best
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Live your best → Zevia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Generic phrase not mentioned at the target. While it could plausibly be a marketing slogan, internet search results primarily return matches from contexts unrelated to Zevia. signed,Rosguill talk 13:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - excessively vague. It does seem to be something that a celebrity said one time in a promotional video about the product, but it doesn't appear that it was picked up as a slogan, certainly not prominently. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep the product is not heavily marketed but this is the slogan, you can see it in this ad spot: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/d5Fl/zevia-live-your-best-brent-fikowski. UserTwoSix (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Seems to be primarily associated with the saying Live your best life, rather than this product. The fact that this was once used as an obscure slogan is not a good factor for a redirect here, as the current target is overwhelmingly not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Hog Farm Talk 05:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: The target is obviously not the main topic. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 08:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Pim's
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Jaffa Cakes. This discussion appears unanimous to me other than minor details, I don't know why it was relisted. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Pim's → Pimm's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

PiM's is a biscuit-like cake produced by the Kraft Foods brand Lefèvre-Utile, as disambiguation page for PIMS reflects in "Other Uses". So it is proposed to retarget Pim's to Lefèvre-Utile (it is also mentioned in its lead) Jaffa Cakes. Alexcalamaro (talk) 18:41, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget I might say to PIMS which has both on it. UserTwoSix (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have noted that Lefèvre-Utile is a redirect to LU (biscuits), so this one could be the target, or PIMS, but also, as the French wiki do, to Jaffa Cakes (after including some kind of "international versions" section) Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have created a small section in the Jaffa Cakes article to include PiM's and the Polish version (with a photo I took yesterday), so I think that the best redirect is to Jaffa Cakes article. Alexcalamaro (talk) 14:09, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget Either LU or Jaffa cake would be okay to redirect but need to add a "Redirects here" and then hatnote to Pim and Pimm's. Add reverse hatnote on Pimm's to Pim's  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:05, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jaffa Cakes per nom and AngusWOOF. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Redirect to Jaffa Cakes, giving preference to target of correct spelling. Use hatnotes for the misspelling of Pimm's.—Bagumba (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Stand Alone(EP Mogan Wallen)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Stand Alone(EP Mogan Wallen)">Stand Alone(EP Mogan Wallen) → Morgan Wallen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:UNNATURAL (error in act of disambiguation), was at this title for 5 minutes. Hog Farm Talk 06:41, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom because of the spelling error and the lack of a space between the EP title and its disambiguator. It also doesn't seem to have any useful history now that the EP's article has been deemed non-notable and redirected to Wallen's page. Regards, SONIC  678  23:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: We do not need to have redirects for every possible misspelling. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 08:54, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Taco sauce
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Taco sauce → Salsa (Mexican cuisine) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirected for years to the Salsa page, until Salsa taquera ("taco sauce") was removed from the page. Taco sauce could either refer to salsa or hot sauce. Some restaurants like Taco Bell serve hot sauce packets as their taco sauce. Keep the Salsa redirect, or retarget to Hot sauce? This term seems ambiguous. Colgatepony234 (talk) 15:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There is consensus to keep this redirect, but not for its target.
 * I'm inclined to delete. Unlike, say, an enchilada, a taco doesn't necessarily have sauce at all, and there are plenty of sauces besides hot sauce and salsa that can be served with one. There's no mention of tacos at List of sauces, and while there's a single mention of taco sauce at Taco, the other mentions of sauce there are for a citrus/mayonnaise sauce. On the other hand, most Google results for the phrase are for hot sauces—on the other other hand, no mention at Hot sauce either. --BDD (talk) 15:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I disagree with BDD. One can very clearly go to a supermarket and buy a product named "taco sauce". (At least one can here in New York.) So we need something to satisfy that search, whether it be a redirect to a DAB page or to a specific page about a particular product, or a new page about this specific product. I would prefer to see Taco sauce redirect to Hot sauce rather than just be deleted. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. There is very clearly something called "Taco sauce" given that my search results for the specific term are filled with very similar recipes (principally tomato puree, water, white vinegar and cumin). One of those recipes claims that this sauce is known as "Salsa taquera" in Spanish (a redirect to Salsa (Mexican cuisine) here, but a red link on eswiki). Thryduulf (talk) 07:38, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is clearly different from Taco sauce. Taco sauce (as sold in my area of the United States) is a purely liquid condiment whereas salsa is comprised mostly of chunks of tomatoes and other vegetables (and sometimes fruit) with additional spices. These are two completely different products. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * But Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is about "a variety of sauces", probably the result of us trying to balance the word's meaning in Spanish vs. English. Now I'm leaning more keep, with a preference for expanding the target article to cover this topic. --BDD (talk) 14:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As long as Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is expanded to cover the purely liquid concoction sold as "taco sauce" (think small packets available at outlets such as Taco Bell), then I would support that. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Taco What one thinks of "taco sauce" probably varies depending on whether you are refering to traditional tacos or hard-shell tacos. It's not always pico de gallo or a red hot sauce in a bottle or packet.—Bagumba (talk) 16:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete Overly vague, no clear destination. Better off using the search function instead.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between Salsa (Mexican cuisine) and Hot sauce for now. Regarding Bagumba's suggestion, we can include Taco on the first line instead of as a DAB bullet, e.g. "Taco sauce may refer to any sauce commonly used on tacos, such as:". If Salsa (Mexican cuisine) is expanded to include the various things known as "taco sauce" then it can be retargeted there. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 00:17, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * In the absence of a standalone taco sauce page, any interim solution is awkward, but deletion is the worst alternative. I suspect this is akin to steak sauce.  Not all steaks need sauce, some people put on what is called steak sauce, while others have a sauce for steak that is different from what is called steak sauce i.e. Steak.—Bagumba (talk) 07:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment. There is very little info I could find online about what can technically be considered "taco sauce". Here are a few possible refs of varying helpfulness: &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * FYI Ortega has an entire line of taco sauces.—Bagumba (talk) 16:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure where it should be redirected to but there is ample evidence that taco sauce is an actual product so it should go somewhere.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment Three relistings is unusual. Per WP:RELIST, relisting should not be a substitute for a "no consensus" closure.—Bagumba (talk) 06:25, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * And that's precisely why I wrote a short explanation, as also stated at WP:RELIST: Users relisting a debate for a third (or further) time, or relisting a debate with a substantial number of commenters, should write a short explanation either within the relist template, or in addition to it. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete in favour of search results. "Taco sauce" is not a specific variety of sauce, it's any sauce someone puts on a taco. Salsa, hot sauce, chimichurri, mayonnaise, salad dressing, cranberry sauce, corn relish, guacamole, sweet onion sauce, sour cream or creme fraiche, barbecue sauce, gravy ... a list of all the things one might put on a taco would not be a disambiguation page, it would be an unencyclopedic and never-finished set index full of editors' preferences and opinions. I'm sure there's a Mexican cuisine Wikia out there that this could be added to. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:24, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Scratch that; retarget to taco. The article about the food already does a good job of explaining different things one might put on a taco, including various sauces. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:26, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I see very little in Taco about sauces. There was one mention of "taco sauce" there which was not defined any further. I went ahead a linked that so it will go to Salsa roja (see below). <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 00:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * There are three mentions of sauce, and there are links to pico de gallo and Salsa (Mexican cuisine). Ideally there should be a standalone article for taco sauce, and the taco page can also be enhanced. However, taco as a target might just be the best general coverage that we have for now.—Bagumba (talk) 01:51, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * A standalone article (or a set index even) for taco sauce would be ideal, if we could agree that taco sauce was a specific thing. By that I mean marinara sauce is a thing, as are hollandaise, chimichurri, and maple syrup - they're all specific formulations where we can definitely say that "this concoction is maple syrup", or that it's not. It has a fairly narrow definition. Maple syrup is a specific reduction of maple sap; you can't make maple syrup any other way, and it's not just any syrup you put on pancakes (although pancake syrup is redirect back to maple syrup, maybe that's a bad example, but say you live with someone who insists that mint jelly goes on pancakes, or some other kind of fruit jam). Taco sauce is more like pancake syrup than marinara, I guess is my point: it's more of a category of condiments than a well-defined type of sauce. I agree (as I said already) that the best way to handle this is to cover it in the taco article, and have "taco sauce" redirect there. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The case of taco sauce is probably similar to steak sauce, but tacos are slightly less prominent than steak being an "ethnic food".—Bagumba (talk) 04:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Salsa roja which now mentions it by name and seemed to be the most appropriate description of the product we already had. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 00:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * While salsa roja translates to red sauce, it is not the same as taco sauce. I have removed your change from salsa roja. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 01:43, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia talk:Sai Ketan Rao
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  06:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia talk:Sai Ketan Rao → Sai Ketan Rao (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was at this title for less than an hour due to what looks like a disruptive page move. I don't think this WT-to-article crossnamespace redirect has much value. Hog Farm Talk 06:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The page Sai Ketan Rao was moved to Wikipedia talk space and then blanked by an editor for no valid reason, and this redirect is left over from when I moved it back to article space. It serves no real purpose and can safely be deleted. PohranicniStraze (talk) 21:31, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Bbbp
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  defaulting to disambiguation in the absence of any support for the prior status quo signed,Rosguill talk 05:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Bbbp → Boom Blox Bash Party (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this acronym redirect to a video game, created in 2009, has now been superseded or at the very least matched by Joe Biden's Build Back Better Plan. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Disambiguate under the all-caps BBBP. I also came up with Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana and a single by Jacki-O. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 07:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana which appears to be the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT in WP:RS. (The word "yojana" is usually excluded from the acronym.) A Google News search for 'BBBP "Build Back Better Plan"' gets zero hits. . Per WP:ONEOTHER, to create a disambiguation page there'd need to be more articles that meet WP:DABABBREV than just an obscure WP:DABMENTIONed mixtape. To the limited extent that Biden's plan gets turned into an acronym anywhere (outside of the Wikipedian-invented usage at Template:Joe Biden series), it seems it's usually just called BBB rather than BBBP . 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete. Agree with User:61 that Biden's plan is not known by the acronym. Same is the case with the current target. I have attempted a draft per LaundryPizza at the current redirect, which can be used at the new DAB page. I also added Bronx Blue Bedroom Project.  Jay (Talk) 19:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete: This is a generic acronym. &#8213; Susmuffin  Talk 08:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you're going to refer to Redirect, it would be helpful if you mention specifically which numbered criterion you think this falls under, as none of them mention "generic" nor "acronym". (Worth noting that all the reasons have their own shortcuts too: WP:R, WP:R, etc.) 61.239.39.90 (talk) 05:32, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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Latter Day Saint
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Latter Day Saint movement. Hog Farm Talk 04:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Latter Day Saint → Mormons (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Latter Day Saints → Latter Day Saint movement (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this should be re-targeted to Latter Day Saint movement. The Church in Salt Lake City has discouraged references to it as the "LDS" Church, and there are other organizations which identify as Latter Day Saints. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 00:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Latter Day Saints (the plural) currently redirects to Latter Day Saint movement; a rejected move perhaps should re-target that redirect. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 00:10, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: It would help if Latter Day Saints is also nominated as I believe they should point to the same target, whatever that may be. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:53, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Bundled. -- Tamzin  [cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. Having just come off extended discussions and spillovers at (most recently) Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, consider me neutral, except to say that both redirects should point to the same target. Narky Blert (talk) 20:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * An argument made in those discussions (forgive me if I get any technical terms wrong) is that an elder of the LDS Church recently decreed that "Mormon" should not be used in relation to that Church. Narky Blert (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Latter Day Saint movement. I don't know anything about Latter Day Saint stuff, but the suggested retarget to Latter Day Saint movement seems most appropriate. Winston (talk) 10:44, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Latter Day Saint movement and add redirects here for Latter Day Saints, and hatnote for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Latter Day Saint movement, and target Latter Day Saints to the same page as well. Both redirects would be appropriate as the terms refer to the movement as a whole rather than to purely it's largest branch. Memories of (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Super Weed
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all  to Herbicide. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Super Weed → Cannabis (drug) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Super weed → Weed (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Superweeds → Herbicide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Superweed → Glysophate (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These variants should really have more consistent targets instead of pointing to four different places. Hog Farm Talk 05:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Herbicide, and add a hatnote there to Glyphosate if that's not already covered in the target article. Googling both "superweed" and "super weed" brings up exclusively results for the topic of weeds emerging that are resistant to herbicides, and none about cannabis. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Ivanvector's squirrel. Winston (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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2015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 10%232015 Oklahoma Sooners women's soccer team