Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 25

September 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 25, 2021.

User:Sassadri
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 21:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * User:Sassadri → St. Mark's Episcopal Church (Perryville, Maryland) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I find it very confusing that a user page redirects to an article. Is this allowed? Stefan2 (talk) 20:07, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment user pages were used as sandboxes / draftspace in the wiki's early days. When the editor was done with their draft, they move it to article space which leaves this type of redirect. Normally users have a specific sandbox for this job (here's mine User:Lenticel/Sandbox) but this editor used their main user page instead. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:03, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * To anwer the literal question, yes, it is allowed. Keep. If you do think userpages like this are an issue, it would be best to hold an RfC. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:59, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Nibin-Nogrim
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Nibin-Nogrim → Dwarf (Middle-earth) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ibun → Dwarf (Middle-earth) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ibûn → Dwarf (Middle-earth) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nibin-Noeg → Dwarf (Middle-earth) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Noegyth Nibin → Dwarf (Middle-earth) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor petty-dwarfs not mentioned in target; unless good sourcing can be found to indicate significance of these, I don't think this level of detail is within the scope of the target article (which rightfully limits the space given to the petty dwarves, who are less significant). Hog Farm Talk 03:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom, can't see any reason for having this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - presumably a reader knowing to search for these obscure character names would not be disappointed with being redirected to a page with general information on the topic. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:53, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: The average person who has not read The Silmarillion and The Children of Húrin would not understand why these redirects lead to their target. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 18:09, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
 * So? How does the average person come into this? And even if the average person does come across this then surely they are able to infer that the redirects lead to this target because they are related to the target? — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:04, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  05:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PlanetsForLife 16:41, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. No mention, no business existing as a redirect. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 06:46, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - "keep" isn't really a valid option as the linked section doesn't exist, and doesn't appear to have existed recently. At the very least it should simply target the article but I am not giving an opinion either way. A7V2 (talk) 05:40, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Transfeminine and Transmasculine
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 3%23Transfeminine and Transmasculine

Give me rent
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:46, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Give me rent → Spider-Man 3 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 15:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete it's a line once said by the main charaters' landlord in the film with very little plot relevance. I also noticed the misquoted Give me your rent which should also be included.--65.92.245.188 (talk) 20:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned and ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:27, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Not a notable quote. Winston (talk) 23:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above PlanetsForLife 23:11, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Big Black: Stand at Attica
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 3%23Big Black: Stand at Attica

Ticoş (disambiguation)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn.   Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ticoş (disambiguation)">Ticoş (disambiguation) → Ticoş (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The disambiguation page Ticoş consisted of a single entry, so I redirected it to its article, which means this redirect has no purpose. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:44, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing nomination. There are a few Ticos/Ticoş, so I've added them to Tico (disambiguation). Clarityfiend (talk) 07:53, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be best to restore the DAB at Ticoş and add the entries you found there? <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:32, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Only one entry has an ş. There's also Ticos, which redirects to Costa Ricans. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:50, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, right! I thought Ticoș River also had an ş, but apparently it's a completely different letter. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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Monika Krause-Fuchs (German sociologist)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:44, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Monika Krause-Fuchs (German sociologist)">Monika Krause-Fuchs (German sociologist) → Monika Krause-Fuchs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary disambiguation. Article was originally created under this name, but there are no other prominent Monika Krause-Fuchs. Centre Left Right ✉ 18:10, 17 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. This is a valid r from unnecessary disambiguation. While I wouldn't encourage someone creating a doubly-qualified redirect like this out of thin air, in this case, where it exists from a move, there's no reason to delete it. -- Tamzin  [cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:28, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tamzin. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, the article with the long title was created with a extended name because the normal title already existed in draft space, and the user who created it found this way to upload the improved version. Then the article was moved to its "natural" name and left there a redirect. I totally agree with the OP to delete the unnecessary redirect. Alexcalamaro (talk) 07:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:53, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with the Keep votes that Unnecessary disambiguation is not a reason to delete.  Jay (Talk) 06:53, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tazmin as well. Unnecessary disambiguation like this can also be helpful. Regards, SONIC  678  15:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete via Db-author. is the original author and nominator and should have deleted it using Db-author instead of listing it here. Coastside (talk) 19:24, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but this redirect is the result of a move, so should be kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:23, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I was not the original author of the article. I was the one who moved it to its current title. Centre Left Right  ✉ 03:16, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Tamzin. Winston (talk) 23:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as r from unnecessary disambiguation, noting that the article was at this title, albeit for only 2 days. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Shopping area
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 3%23Shopping area