Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 27

September 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 27, 2021.

Westchester Borough, New York
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 4%23Westchester Borough, New York

March oer Die
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * March oer Die → March ör Die (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet another Eubot heavy metal redirect that isn't used much. Disband this unless a justification can be provided. Regards, SONIC  678  23:14, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 13:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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President of the National Committee
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 21:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * President of the National Committee → List of presidents of the National Convention (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"National Committee" does not appear to unamibguously refer to the target, with many variations on "National Committee" in internal search results. While it's not clear how many of these groups have presidents, given the lack of prominence of the National Convention I think that deletion to allow for internal search results is the appropriate course of action. signed,Rosguill talk 22:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. National Committee != National Convention. We have no information about whether the National Committee had a president and if so who held that position. Thryduulf (talk) 13:30, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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American egg noodles
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * American egg noodles → Lokshen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, I don't see any evidence that this is a an alternative name for the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 22:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a new redirect and could be confusing. Lokshen aren't even American, their Ashkenazi Jewish and there are multiple brands from different countries. Coastside (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Coastside -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Noodle and List of noodles don't even mention the word "American" or "U.S.". Various immigrant groups in the US have Americanised versions of egg noodle dishes from their countries. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 05:54, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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B.C. Strut
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:56, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * B.C. Strut → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * He's Flying → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bubble Beat Box → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Jelly Fish Jam → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hey Mean Mr. Bossman → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nick's B. Danube → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * You're Old → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Underwater Sun → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Squidward's Clarinet → SpongeBob SquarePants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The song isn't mentioned in any articles after SpongeBob SquarePants: The Yellow Album got redirected to the basis show's page. This redirect should be deleted. 2601:584:101:80B0:28DD:64BF:CE2B:83F9 (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also, I found several more like this that used to redirect to the page, most of which I'll be adding here. Working on it...done. Regards, SONIC  678  00:51, 28 September 2021 (UTC), edited 00:56, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Insieme informativo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:33, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Insieme informativo → Information set (game theory) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE. I can find no connection between this bit of game theory and the Italian language. Mass created with an unauthorised bot. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per the reasoning provided at all the other recent Italian language game theory RFDs that have recently been filed.--67.70.103.244 (talk) 21:43, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Battaglia dei sessi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Battaglia dei sessi → Battle of the sexes (game theory) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

1) WP:RLOTE - I can find no connecton beteen this bit of game theory and the Italian language. 2) Even if there was a connection between "Battle of the sexes" and the Italian language that would justify an Italian language redirect there is no reason why this should target the article specifically on game theory, rather than Battle of the sexes. Mass created using an unauthorised bot. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:10, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of a meaningful connection between this game theory and Italy.--65.92.245.188 (talk) 02:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN and because it points to the wrong target regardless of any connections between languages. Regards, SONIC  678  00:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
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Gagnant-gagnant
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:37, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Gagnant-gagnant → Win-win game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE. I can find no connection between win-win games and the French language. Mass created by a user using an unauthorised bot. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete' no meaningful connection between the target and Italy.--65.92.245.188 (talk) 02:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:46, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Gioco di segnalazione
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Thryduulf (talk) 13:37, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Gioco di segnalazione → Signaling game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE I can find no connection between signaling games and the Italian language. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:01, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete no meaningful connection between the target and Italy.--65.92.245.188 (talk) 02:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:47, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Free encyclopedia
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Encyclopedia. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Free encyclopedia → Encyclopedia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unneeded redirect; redirects to a section that does not exist EthanGaming7640 (talk) 19:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Encyclopedia R to subtopic. The redirect should be kept, at minimum because it has a non-trivial edit history. Since the section on Digital encyclopedias discusses the advent of free encyclopedias, this is a helpful redirect.  I was going to say it should redirect to Wikipedia, because that would be consistent with the The Free Encyclopedia, but the section in the Encyclopedia article indicated that Wikipedia wasn't the only free one, nor was it even the first. Coastside (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: a general phrase which is ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Coastside and avoid deletion.  Jay (Talk) 18:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Encyclopedia. I see the concern with this, since there's no inherent reason a free encyclopedia would need to be digital. Still, there are practical reasons why it almost certainly would be (i.e., avoiding the costs of print publication), so for now, at least, this should take readers where they want to go. --BDD (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Pedro Goncalves
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Pedro Gonçalves. No prejudice against a subsequent RM. I see clear consensus that this should redirect to the version without the cedilla. --BDD (talk) 20:51, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Pedro Goncalves → Pedro Gonçalves (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It makes little sense to me that the name "Pedro Goncalves" redirects to a disambiguation, but Pedro Gonçalves with a cedilla goes to a specific person. Bear in mind that most English speakers will not have a cedilla on their keyboard, and once they have typed the unaccented c, the autosuggest will only show this redirect, not the footballer who is the result with an accented c. If this discussion goes the way of saying that the footballer is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this common Portuguese name, then really the next step should be to nominate moving him to Pedro Gonçalves (footballer) 2A00:23C5:E187:5F00:7945:3621:8556:8CD4 (talk) 18:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Pedro Gonçalves. Are you proposing deleting the redirect or retargeting? I suggest retargeting since it's not a new redirect and has an edit history. Coastside (talk) 22:54, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Pedro Gonçalves. If the DAB page is moved then of course this redirect should NOT follow the footballer but then point to the DAB. A7V2 (talk) 08:59, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Vitrite (software)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:49, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Vitrite (software)">Vitrite (software) → List of free and open-source software packages (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target (or elsewhere), and without a mention there is nothing to be learned about the subject at the target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Delete. It's actually confusing - if I go to Vitrite, and end up a page where it's not even mentioned. vitrite goes to a kind of glass, and the first page of Bing and Startpage doesn't come up with the software. It is the first listing under Google, but that looks like a paid slot, and it may be that Google is preempting me. I'm guessing that [] is the actual software, but it hasn't been updated in 12 years. How did it even get in to wikipedia? peterl (talk) 22:14, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Zanjabil
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 5%23Zanjabil

Flash Communications
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft (WP:NCRET). I have created the anchor. --BDD (talk) 20:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Flash Communications → Windows Live Messenger (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:55, 7 September 2021 (UTC) Not sure why this discussion was closed instead of being relisted, as I was suggesting that deletion would probably be the best outcome. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft where they appear in the list. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 05:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not retarget to the above suggestion. There is minimal information (if any) about this company on enwiki, and it would be best to WP:REDLINK this given the lack of information. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:16, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think I was looking at an outdated version of the page when I closed the discussion and didn't see your comment. I've gone ahead and reopened the discussion accordingly. signed,Rosguill talk 01:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 04:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  06:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete unless an anchored retarget if technically feasible. A redirect to List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft without an anchor per 192.76.8.74 would violate WP:R, however a redirect to the list entry would be more informative than a red link (redirects are cheap). I do not think it is possible to target a redirect to a list entry, nor do I think it would be acceptable to reorganize the target article to have FC in its own section, but I might be wrong. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:02, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * , an anchor can be placed for Flash Communications if need be. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per Cyclone with the expectation that it will have a standalone article some day. I have linked it to 3 articles, so they will become redlinks.  Jay (Talk) 15:39, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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With Intent
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * With Intent → Lie With Me (2021 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD "might cause confusion", not mentioned at target. This is the result of a page move by User:J Bar on 29 July with the ec "Title changed before broadcast", fair enough, but nothing links here and it gets paltry hits as a redirect. We haven't lowercase; offences so-named are described at  (an anchor I've just added). 85.67.32.244 (talk) 04:30, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree it's potentially confusing. I would think someone might be looking for malice (law). Coastside (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:22, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
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Brein Age series
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Brein Age series → Brain Age (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Old (circa 2006) implausible typo of (now at Brain Age), with 73 total pageviews since 2015. Note that does not redirect to Brain. Pokechu22 (talk) 01:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Deleet per nom. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree, delete as per nom. DudeTheNinja ( speak to me &#124; spy on me ) 19:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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New York City station (Grand Central Terminal)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="New York City station (Grand Central Terminal)">New York City station (Grand Central Terminal) → Grand Central Terminal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Utterly implausible search term, improperly formatted by any naming convention, recently created despite complete lack of need. oknazevad (talk) 01:36, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:16, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Actually, this is one of several hundred redirects by the same user that have dubious usefulness but seem to be created for the sake of "consistency". A few of them seem to fall under "totally unnecessary" like this one. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * To be fair, 's creation was New York City station (Grand Central Station) so this one is your creation via a move. Because you want it deleted, I'm curious why you made that move, which is unnecessary at best and a WP:MOVEREDIRECT violation at worst. Wouldn't it be better to tag it with db-r3 or nominate it here? -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:12, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Not to put words in Epic's mouth, but it was probably a good faith correction of the redirect. The building is properly Grand Central Terminal, not Grand Central Station. It's a bit of a bugaboo among NUC area railfans when people get that wrong. That said, when he saw my nomination for deletion he probably realized that was the better course of action. oknazevad (talk) 01:11, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, but if there is a problem with a redirect, it needs to be nominated for deletion, not "corrected"—redirects need not be correct. Grand Central Station is a well-known name for building, perhaps even more so than Grand Central Terminal among non-fans. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:26, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That was my mistake. Basically oknazevad's comment is correct - as GCT is the proper name for the station, I thought I was actually deleting a redirect from an even more uncommon term. I should have tagged it for deletion at that point. Again, it is completely my fault as I had forgotten about WP:MOVEREDIRECT, so I will make sure not to do that again. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. As someone who nominated a fair bit of JBIGW's redirects, I think my frustration with them is seeping though. That is—if only we had gotten these redirects taken care of back then, perhaps they would have ceased their pointless-to-harmful redirect creations a bit earlier than they did. Anyway, I just realized I haven't voted on this one yet, I'm going to do so now... -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. To add to Epicgenius, some such as Oakland County, California (which I just picked at random) seem to be Just Plain Wrong. Oakland, California is the county seat of Alameda County, California, and from reading the article it appears never to have been called "Oakland County", and Memphis, Tennessee is not in Memphis County, Tennessee, any more than Houston, Texas is in Houston County, Texas (a real Texan county and hatnoted). Neither do I understand why and  redirect to 42nd Street Shuttle: The article makes no mention of a "line 0" (or "O"). Inventing counties, or names for public transport, that are not used in real life, is just WP:RFD confusing. (The rationale behind having "wrong" redirects such as misspellings is that they are used in real life.) 85.67.32.244 (talk) 15:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * has as its target a DAB (125th Street), where many things are not stations; similarly, , et cetera ad nauseam. (Although redirects to .) Similarly Rs to DABs , , ,  and  would seem of dubious utility.


 * This has been going on a while: From mid-2019 we have, , , and no doubt others, even though no Londoner ever calls the London Underground lines by colour. Tourists and newcomers do, so they may be useful, but since Green Line Coaches primarily serve London, it doesn't make for good disambiguation.85.67.32.244 (talk) 16:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The redirects to disambiguation pages for incomplete titles bothers me less. already redirects to the 125th Street dab page because some time back it was decided to merge station dab pages into broader dab pages covering names, as is the case for other topic areas as well. As for the colors where colors aren't typically used, you already note that those unfamiliar with proper names may use them, so keeping those are aiding readers unfamiliar with the topic find the right page. That's just reader friendly. That said, things like "The F" are useless and should be deleted. oknazevad (talk) 01:11, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree about the Tube lines, I mentioned them as inferred that often these redirects have been done without much thought or knowledge. For example, two Tube lines are coloured blue, the Victoria Line in light blue and the Piccadilly Line in dark blue. So I made the redirect into a disambiguation page. Actually Transport for London calls them "Corporate Light Blue" and "Corporate Blue" (q.v. ) and, as that section explains, they've changed over time. That's irrelevant of course if the Rs helps readers get what they want.
 * Redirecting a nonexistent US county (named for its county seat) only encourages the spread of misinformation, IMO. These are not rcatted with, nor anything else. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 07:24, 1 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per the above. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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Metal Harbor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 20:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Metal Harbor → Sonic Adventure 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Metal Harbour → Sonic Adventure 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 19 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: No opinion at the moment, but I'm also adding the Commonwealth spelling counterpart to this discussion. Similar action might need to happen with that. Regards, SONIC  678  18:28, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - Metal Harbor is a name of one of the areas/levels in the Sonic Adventure 2. Indifferent on what to do here. One could probably figure out a way to add a sentence into the article so that the redirect is legit. But it wouldn't be much of a service to the reader, nor do I believe it's all that likely to be searched in the first place. Sergecross73   msg me  19:12, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Delete unless it has significant mention as a notable level across the franchise as with Rainbow Road (Mario Kart). AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems fairly vague and fancrufty to me. Unless a level is clearly notable, its name should probably not be included as a redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:54, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Life as We don't Know It
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . I find consensus to delete the similar redirects with irregular capitalization, and will delete them as well per WP:NOTBURO. I will leave Life as we do not know it to a separate discussion, if desired. --BDD (talk) 20:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Life as We don't Know It → Hypothetical types of biochemistry (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 17:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. I think this term is a valid R from related word or phrase for the target. The related redirects Life as we do not know it and Life, but not as we know it also target the alternative biochemistry article. But in this case, it seems this version with odd capitalization was created for an entry on the disambiguation page Life as We Know It, where it is linked contrary to MOS:DABONE. So delete this version, create the proper sentence-case version of this redirect if desired, and update the dab page as appropriate. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. In science fiction (and speculative discussions about alien biochemistry), "Life as we know it" refers to life similar to that found on Earth (carbon-based), whereas "Life as we don't know it" refers to life using alternate biochemistries. Googling "Life as we don't know it" reveals some pages discussing alternative forms of biochemistry. Also, see this - Ae-a (talk)

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 * Delete as a term not well-explained on any of these pages. If it has a significant mention on the Life or biochemistry pages, then consider adding it as an and mentioning it at the dab page.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:51, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete — nobody will use this capitalization. HotdogPi 18:07, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Original creator here. I agree about the incorrect capitalization, so I have moved the redirect to one with the correct capitalization. Ae-a (talk) 02:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I think a redirect (along with ) are useful, but the alternative capitalization forms, , and  (the most recent move target, which still has a capital "It" ) probably should be deleted. --Pokechu22 (talk) 04:08, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, delete that one too as it still has improper capitalization. Redirects are generally not moved, as it recreates the original redirect anyway, and especially should not be done during an open RfD discussion, as it just makes things complicated and confusing. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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Wanasur
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 6%23Wanasur

Muscular Arms
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . I am not adding the suggested hatnote, since I find it unlikely we'd ever bother creating a Muscular arms if this fictional place didn't exist, although if anyone feels strongly that we should have such a hatnote, I won't revert it. --BDD (talk) 20:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Muscular Arms → Dexter's Laboratory (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Briefly mentioned in target article as a minor plot point, but the primary topic here seems to be literal muscular arms. Hog Farm Talk 23:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose: As the creator of this redirect, I have a slight preference to keep the original target based on the capitalization of the word "Arms", which I feel would be an unusual inclusion in the search box if a reader were to search for an article about health, anatomy, or even bodybuilding. (For context, the redirect's title refers to a fictional apartment building named "Muscular Arms" inhabited by a trio of superheroes in the cartoon series Dexter's Laboratory.) That being said, I do understand the nominator's point of view. —  Paper Luigi  T • C 00:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Keep but add redirects here, add hatnote to Muscle arms and arm AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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