Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 7

September 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 7, 2021.

Seasonal temperature variation
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Seasonal temperature variation → Seasonal lag (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Propose deletion. This goes to one concept related to seasonal temperature variation, but does not cover seasonal temperature variation in general. Conceivably we could also just redirect to season but I think it's better just to leave blank for future article development. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with the nom that the target does not fully address the topic indicated by the redirect, but I think the ideal future solution would be to expand the target article to include such content and then consider a page move to this title. It seems both the nominator and creator of the redirect want an article that is a good parallel to diurnal air temperature variation, and I concur. But I don't think we need a separate article on seasonal temperature variation and seasonal lag, as the two are so closely related, so redlinking here doesn't make sense. Mdewman6 (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I created the redirect; I figured it was the closest content we had, and would adequately give anyone following the link an encyclopedic overview of the meaning of the phrase. I've template-categorized the redirect as a Template:R from less specific name to make that clear (just learned I could do that!). I'd have no objections to a separate article on seasonal temperature variation if a good one can be written. Seasonal lag seems large enough that expanding it into a broader-concept article might be a bit difficult, but if anyone wanted to do that I'd be fine with it too. HLHJ (talk) 02:29, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hot chips
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 15%23Hot chips

Template:Country data Zimbabwe Rhodesia
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 * The result of the discussion was Reverse the redirect by moving the target over the redirect.  Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Template:Country data Zimbabwe Rhodesia → Template:Country data Zimbabwe-Rhodesia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Originally nominated for deletion by @ColorfulSmoke with the reason "incorrect name, Zimbabwe-Rhodesia should be moved to Zimbabwe Rhodesia"  F ASTILY   22:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Round-Robin Move Country data Zimbabwe-Rhodesia to Country data Zimbabwe Rhodesia, leaving a redirect in the former location. The article explains that "Zimbabwe Rhodesia" was the country's official name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Round-Robin Move per Jonesey95. Move redirect per BDD. CycloneYoris talk! 06:14, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Jonesey95 and CycloneYoris, this redirect only has trivial history. Is there a reason we can't just move the target directly over it? A round-robin move seems overly complex here. --BDD (talk) 20:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure what Jonesey95 thinks, but moving it over the target seems like a much better idea. I'll strike and change my !vote above. CycloneYoris talk!</b> 00:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. I don't do this sort of move, so I don't know the nuances. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep/Oppose move The country's name was Zimbabwe Rhodesia, there's no hyphen in it.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 08:11, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The C of E, that sounds supportive of a move. The move would effectively remove the hyphen from the template name. --BDD (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Move template to redirect title, per above. The sole oppose vote seems confused - the countries name doesn't have a hyphen in it but they support keeping the template at the hyphenated title? 192.76.8.74 (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
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150mm cannon (PlanetSide)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="150mm cannon (PlanetSide)">150mm cannon (PlanetSide) → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="75mm cannon (PlanetSide)">75mm cannon (PlanetSide) → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 12mm rotary chaingun → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 20mm recoilless chaingun → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="100mm cannon (PlanetSide)">100mm cannon (PlanetSide) → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 15mm rotary chaingun → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Pulsed Particle Accelerater → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Rail Beam → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * 20mm recoiless chaingun → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

All these redirects appear to be minor game items and should be removed - none are mentioned in target article and such redirects are confusing for WP readers. -Liancetalk/contribs 21:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: None of these redirects are probable search terms. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 23:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment looks like these were merged in 2005. I still think delete, as we no longer mention them in the target article (and probably shouldn't, from a cursory look) - if someone reinstates the information on them, then keep. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 05:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Another instance of a term being unique to a game, book, show, etc. but not being notable enough to deserve a redirect. (I've only recently started participating here and this is like the 4th or 5th instance of this I've seen.) Winston (talk) 12:23, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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Never Say Why
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Never Say Why → PlanetSide (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Name of non-notable fan comic, not mentioned at source article in any way -Liancetalk/contribs 21:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: The relationship between the redirect and its target would be unclear to the average searcher. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 23:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force/Assessment
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per G6, unambiguously created in error. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:07, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force/Assessment">Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force/Assessment → Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

same as previous nomination, obvious error  dud  hhr  Contribs 19:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: No one would ever misspell the target's title in this way. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 23:50, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete (valid R3) Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 23:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per G6, unambiguously created in error. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 16:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force">Wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force → Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias/Religion task force (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure if this qualifies for R3. Only existed for 3 minutes, obviously erroneous.  dud  hhr  Contribs 19:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete G6 as a page unambiguously created in error. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ahmed Jan
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 04:59, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Ahmed Jan → Ahmed Khan of Herat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can't find any results relevant to the target when searching this name online and on Google Scholar; all results appear to be about unrelated individuals named Ahmed Jan. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I initially created the page due to Sultan Ahmed Khan being called in various british accounts as Ahmed Jan (see these pages: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW18630411.2.9 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13072787 https://books.google.com/books?id=lWtDAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA581&lpg=PA581&dq=ahmed+jan+herat+1863&source=bl&ots=lehtry0QFv&sig=ACfU3U0zE2JCBlx5zfw5GscSvvQ0oReAtw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU6J3Ixu3yAhX2MlkFHSTQDrwQ6AF6BAgnEAM#v=onepage&q=ahmed%20jan%20herat%201863&f=false https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1862-05-29/debates/addca591-f11d-4777-b978-6eebaf18fcf8/AffairsOfCentralAsia https://books.google.com/books?id=9rk5AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA221&lpg=PA221&dq=ahmed+jan+herat&source=bl&ots=OG8HahMYYP&sig=ACfU3U1dw3l3muDbXs-gQn0O-y5x-36Usw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir49uIxu3yAhVDGFkFHSX1DfYQ6AF6BAgoEAM#v=onepage&q=ahmed%20jan%20herat&f=false https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herat_from_the_Citadel.png). I see what you mean though, and I think now it might just be better to include that a common name for him was Ahmed Jan in the article now instead of making a separate redirect. Kailanmapper (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Why not both? - There should be a mention in the article and a redirect, so keep. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Fair point. I suggest we wait for the administrator who made this discussion to reply though. Rosguill, what do you think about this? Does this sound like a good compromise? Kailanmapper (talk) 03:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Woops, only just saw this. Keeping seems fine given the evidence. signed,Rosguill talk 00:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Dark spider man
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of incarnations of Spider-Man. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:00, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Dark spider man → Venom (Marvel Comics character) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Does not appear to be an alternative name for Venom, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:30, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Would Dark Avengers perhaps be a better target? 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. I know leads to Miles Morales with a hatnote pointing to Symbiote (comics) (for the black Spider-Man costume). For whatever reason in its hatnote, "Black Spiderman" (no hyphen) suggests Spider-Man 3 instead for the symbiote-bonded Peter Parker. I could possibly see "Dark spider man" go to either target (only because of this line in SM3: Peter later awakens atop of a building, discovering that the symbiote has colored his suit black and enhanced his powers; however, it also brings out the dark side of his personality.)  &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, it should just target List of incarnations of Spider-Man (the Dark Avengers' version of Spider-Man). &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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I'VE
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:00, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I'VE → Starship Entertainment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 18:18, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's the name for the label's upcoming girl group. Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 19:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: This redirect is a basic contraction that is too broad to be redirected to any single place. The average reader would be confused by it. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 22:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, perhaps by adding to Ive which already contains I've Sound, for instance. Winston (talk) 12:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete with no prejudice against creating an article about the girl group or recreating the redirect to the label's article (or elsewhere) when content is added. Could add to Ive dab page, but I think this is a WP:DIFFCAPS situation with currently nothing to disambiguate with this capitalization. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON per Mdewman6.  Jay (Talk) 16:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
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Governor Moonbeam"
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:27, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * <span id="Governor Moonbeam&quot;">Governor Moonbeam" → Jerry Brown (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion because of a typo (extra "). UserTwoSix (talk) 18:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: We do not need to have redirects for every possible mistyping of someone's nickname. &#8213; Susmuffin Talk 23:46, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible misspelling -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above comments. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Biachini Crater
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:43, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Biachini Crater → Bianchini (Martian crater) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

My preference would be to delete this misspelling, but if kept it should be retargeted to Bianchini (lunar crater) which is the target of Bianchini (crater). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, as it is a typo that could apply to multiple targets. While not part of this nomination, I think Bianchini (crater) would be better targeted to Bianchini as R from incomplete disambiguation or made into a two-item dab, then have For hatnotes between the two crater articles, but I guess having it as a WP:primary redirect to the lunar article is alright. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:54, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
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Viewers like you
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:aqua 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Viewers like you → Underwriting spot (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Viewers like you" refers to how public broadcasting stations ask their viewers to contribute money towards operating their stations. An underwriting spot has nothing to do with viewers - instead it refers to government or corporate contributors who are allowed to broadcast short messages. I'm not clear on what the target should be for this phrase. Previously it targeted Public broadcasting service, which may be an appropriate target. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. In the absence of any mention I can find anywhere else (including Corporation for Public Broadcasting), the current target does explain a use of the term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:39, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Shhhnotsoloud. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 19:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Flash Communications
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 20%23Flash Communications