Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 14

April 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 14, 2022.

I wanna die
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 25%23I wanna die

King of Emo Rap
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 07:00, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → XXXTentacion (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, online search results suggest that there are other artists who would be contenders for this title. Delete unless evidence that this unambiguously refers to XXXTentacion (or an alternative target) can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - "King Of Emo Rap" doesn't appear to be a term that explicitly refers to XXXTentatcion. Noah  💬 16:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
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Emaus
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Emmaus (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 05:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Krzeszów Abbey (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term is not mentioned there except a brief reference to the Emaus Abbey in Prague (which does not have an article). This could be a disambig, for example there is a pl:Emaus (odpust) festival, pl and de wikis have a disambig (pl:Emaus, de:Emaus). But unless someone creates one for English, as a redirect, this seems rather misleading. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:13, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Emmaus (disambiguation) as R from alternative spelling. I prefer the disambiguation page to just Emmaus itself as I think that we can list Emaus Abbey at the disambig as well as Brad Emaus. Alternatively we could DABify to Emaus but there's only two targets. TartarTorte 19:44, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Emmaus (disambiguation) per above. Johnbod (talk) 19:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Slow Blind Driveway
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22%23Slow Blind Driveway

Wet reckless
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Driving under the influence (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wet reckless is not a DUI charge. It's a reckless charge. This should be redirected to Reckless driving Pabsoluterince (talk) 12:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing this request in agreement with Throast. Pabsoluterince (talk) 01:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget as the term is mentioned at Reckless driving but not at Driving under the influence. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Often mentioned in relation to DUI in secondary sources. I've added a dedicated subsection at Driving under the influence. Throast (talk &#124; contribs) 14:23, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Virtual threads
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22%23Virtual threads

Mathias Logelin
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → List of men's artistic gymnasts (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a straight recreation as a redirect of a page that was just deleted at AFD, where redirecting was discussed as an option but dismissed in favour of outright deletion since the subject did not (unlike all others in the list) have an FIG listing and was not the only Matthias Logelin. The recreator should have sought a DELREV of the deletion discussion if they wished to overturn the result to redirection. FOARP (talk) 11:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:CHEAP and the closer's remarks made no mention of not creating a redirect either.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:13, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note that after the info was merged into the list above, the nom tried to remove it.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:CHEAP was raised in the AFD discussion but not accepted as a reason to redirect. You are trying to reverse the result of the consensus at the AFD discussion via the back door. FOARP (talk) 11:28, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * And you are being disruptive by the back door by removing the info from the list of men's artistic gymnasts page.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:35, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If you believe that me undoing your attempt at overturning an AFD is disruptive, then ANI is thataway. FOARP (talk) 12:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep: Re-add the information about him that was removed, and keep the redirect per WP:CHEAP. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 11:29, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep redirect and restore info per Lugnuts and Joseph. Bad nomination.  NGS  Shakin' All Over 13:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Ashford to Ramsgate (via Canturbury West) line
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 21%23Ashford to Ramsgate (via Canturbury West) line

Sir Ottavio Missoni
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 21%23Sir Ottavio Missoni

Latin Portuguese
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22%23Latin Portuguese

Online class
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Distance education.  Jay (talk) 10:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Educational technology (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Distance education (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

In my opinion, these titles, along with Online learning, mainly refer to Distance education, particularly the recent subset of distance education that is online. I think this might be the primary topic, however, maybe others disagree. Do these terms refer to online technology that may be used while students are physically in a classroom? Is there a difference between the meaning of these terms? —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 04:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak target to the DAB, else Target both at Distance education. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  05:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 06:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: Online school redirects to virtual school. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 19:46, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - These are rather broad terms with a lot of inherent vagueness and would seem to ideally go to a larger topic article such as 'Role of the internet in education', but I'm not sure. Perhaps we should just let people search. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:42, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Online learning is a DAB page. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 21:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget Online class to Distance education, keep the other. They both seem like valid search terms. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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Rapido Trains
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Rapido. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Arnold (models) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Rapido Trains is a Canadian model train manufacturer. Arnold Rapido is a brand previously used by the German model train manufacturer Arnold but I believe no longer used. I I do not believe "Rapido Trains" was ever used as a brand by Arnold. I believe most people searching for "Rapido Trains" will be looking for the Canadian manufacturer, and so in the absence of a page for them "Rapido Trains" should redirect to the "Rapido" disambiguation page which lists the Canadian manufacturer, as well as providing a link to the page on Arnold for those looking for it. --Eldomtom2 (talk) 20:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Rapido. This is likely a notable topic, but for the moment the best solution is to point to the disambig until such time that someone decides to start an article under this name. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * 'retarget to Rapido per Trainsandotherthings. 08:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Prefixes and suffixes in Hebrew
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Modern Hebrew grammar. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Prefixes in Hebrew (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think delete because suffixes in Hebrew exists, or redirect to Modern Hebrew grammar § Prepositions Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 20:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Modern Hebrew grammar where both prefixes and suffixes are discussed throughout the article. I will add hatnotes at that section links in the "see also" section to the two specific articles (and remove the link to this redirect there). At first glance it looks like a textbook WP:XY situation, but upon digging there originally was an article at this title that was WP:SPLIT into the two extant articles. The history is a little confusing probably because of a copy/paste move. There was an attempt to turn this into a disambiguation page which was eventually WP:PRODed and then WP:BLARed to its current target. In any case, this should be kept for its page history and for keep any old links intact, particularly external ones. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:54, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Mdewman6. WP:XY is not a reason to make it harder for people to find content about subjects that are frequently and reasonably covered together when we happen to cover them separately, and this is doubly true when we previously covered them together. Thryduulf (talk) 08:17, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Armenian prisoners
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 07:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Armenian prisoners of war during the Second Nagorno-Karabakh War (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure why we would assume that this phrase refers to POWs in the most recent war when it could easily refer to prisons in Armenia or Armenian prisoners in other conflicts/contexts. I think that deletion to allow for internal search results is most appropriate here. signed,Rosguill talk 19:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Might this go to 'List of correctional facilities in Armenia' (which is what I got looking for 'Prisons in Armenia')? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget to List of correctional facilities in Armenia. Not the best article for the redirect but I think this is a more plausible search for our readers.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:46, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget: I had created the redirect when the the target article was called "Armenian POWs during the second Nagorno-Karabakh war" for ease of searching, which in hindsight wasn't the best way to redirect. With the current article name this redirect is redundant. - <b style="color:#d90012">K</b><b style="color:#000000">evo</b><sup style="color:#d90012">3 <sup style="color:#0033a0">2 <sup style="color:#f2a800">7 (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

what do you think of the retarget suggestion? Jay (talk) 07:05, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Eh, I don't think it would be a disaster, but given the lack of information other than the locations and names of the prisons (i.e. no information about prisoners) I'm not sure it's an improvement over deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 15:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Unclear whether someone who types this is looking for war prisoners or criminal prisoners, and neither topic has a a good article-space target (current target is too narrow for the "war prisoners" meaning, and list of correctional facilities in Armenia has no information about prisoners besides their total number). Search results at least show individual notable prisoners (of both types) as well as the current target, which is better than pointing to any individual article. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 02:09, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and 61.239.39.90. This is a vague term; whatever its target (to the above I could add Category:Armenian prisoners and detainees), it doesn't follow any existing pattern that I can see for such redirects – we shouldn't be giving readers a search strategy that's only going to work in a single case. – Uanfala (talk) 23:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and 61. No need for that entry. JBchrch   talk  02:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Prodd
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22%23Prodd

Shortbow
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 22%23Shortbow

Broadheaded
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Arrowhead (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Arrowhead (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Arrowhead (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't seem to make sense to have an adjective/adverb form of this word be here for the term "broadhead" when broadhead is a noun with no sensible way to be refer to by an adjective/adverb form. Basically, these redirects are some misleading search optimization that could have been nipped in the bud with WP:X1 if these were noticed a few years ago. Steel1943 (talk) 06:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree, delete. Richard Keatinge (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Arrows of English Warbows
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Arrow (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems there was content at this title for about half a year in 2006 prior to a WP:BLAR. Either way, the phrase "English Warbow" or any of its capitalization variants do not appear in the target article, leaving readers not finding what they are looking for if they are searching for this precise topic. Steel1943 (talk) 06:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a useful article. Richard Keatinge (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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