Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 27

April 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 27, 2022.

Stoner (derivatives)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:07, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 *  → Stoner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear, one-off disambiguator (seriously, this disambiguator exists in no other titles on Wikipedia) that is unclear in what it is meant to refer. Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UNNATURAL, not a plausible search term. Looking at the page history of stoner this seems to be left over from an attempt to move the disambiguation page to a (disambiguation) title, but the mover got confused and used (derivatives) instead. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 23:07, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: no idea what this is supposed to mean. Veverve (talk) 15:22, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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Strings (2014 film)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Strings (2014 film)

Stirrer (cooking)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Stirrer (cooking)

Affordable
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:07, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → Affordable housing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is both no evidence that readers are looking for the target when searching for this partial title match redirect, and no clear retargeting option for this redirect I could find. Steel1943 (talk) 19:27, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, extremely ambiguous with lots of partial title matches (so not a good candidate for disambiguation). Search results do a good job here. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 23:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and IP. Far too ambiguous. A7V2 (talk) 03:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete senseless. This isn't a housing wiki -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too ambiguous. Kpddg  (talk)  13:56, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Veverve (talk) 15:22, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to affordable, which is the dictionary definition, for lack of a better target (though deletion is okay too). Duckmather (talk) 00:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. The soft redirect to a sister project doesn't make sense as the redirect has not been repeatedly recreated. — Mhawk10 (talk) 20:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Architecture for the poor
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Hassan Fathy. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) Слава Україні! 03:29, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → Affordable housing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is not clear how or why there is the expectation that the reader will be attempting to find the target of the redirect when searching for this term, especially considering that "architecture" is not part of the target's title in addition to the concept of Architecture not being limited to residential housing. Steel1943 (talk) 19:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hassan Fathy as the title of a book published by this architect, which seems to be the overwhelming primary topic. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 23:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hassan Fathy per IP, where the book with this title is mentioned several times. CycloneYoris talk! 23:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Poor housing
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Poor housing

Verb forms and "one who performs verb" forms of Landfill
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 14%23Verb forms and "one who performs verb" forms of Landfill

Spiritual counsellor
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:09, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → Spiritual direction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Spiritual counsellor (south Asia)"> → Guru (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what to do with these. Neither one of these are mentioned in their target articles, but somehow we apparently have a "base name" version and a "disambiguated" version of this title with the former's target not having a hatnote referring to the latter's target. In addition, related titles such as Spiritual counseling, Spiritual counselling, Spiritual counsel, and Spiritual counselor do not exist. Steel1943 (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Aiya
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:09, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → Guru (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the article's subject unclear. Also, various dictionary sites, including aiya, do not seem to make or hint such a connection either. Steel1943 (talk) 18:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 15:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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ExpertS
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn  . (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 23:28, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Expert (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling due to the capital "S" that also seems to had been created in error. Steel1943 (talk) 18:37, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This is an ancient WP:Camel case redirect left over from the days of UseModWiki - The "Conversion Script" user that made this is system account that was used to move the database across when the first versions of Mediawiki were created. These are usually kept per WP:RKEEP no 4 . 192.76.8.70 (talk) 21:59, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That could be, but this redirect isn't even proper CamelCase; the capital S isn't a separate word, and Expert S and Expert s don't exist. Steel1943  (talk) 22:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is valid Camel Case. Back when this was made you couldn't even have spaces in page titles. You made a word with two or more capital letters (separated by at least one lower case letter) and the word became a link, e.g. GermanY or AmericA. When displayed as a page title the software would insert spaces before each capital, so the article title would be displayed as "German Y). I don't see why the lack of existence of two titles that aren't valid camel case and which have never existed should overrule the longstanding consensus that Camel case titles should be kept. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm quite aware of the history of Wikipedia as an editor here for about a decade now. But my understanding was that CamelCase was used to separate words, not having a capitalized last letter or just have capital letters wherever the heck they wanted to be for no good flipping' reason. But whatever, Tavix's link below answered my concerns better than whatever that comment was supposed to accomplish, so I'm going to withdraw this thing. Steel1943  (talk) 23:27, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I know you're not supposed to respond in archived discussions and all that but whatever WP:IAR and so forth.
 * I left you a link to that page in the very first comment that I left here, along with an explanation that the creating user was the account that imported all the Camel Case titles from the old database which is why I was confused (and probably a bit rude, sorry) when you came back with "this redirect isn't even proper CamelCase".
 * Where you put the extra capital letter in a single word title was a major debate back in the day and the "last letter is capital" standard came about because there were quite a few cases of duplicate articles being made at different capitalisations, e.g. GerMany and GermanY. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 23:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Yes, this is a proper camelcase redirect (see CamelCase and Wikipedia for context). It looks like this one was created by Jimbo himself. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Dab hand
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Dab hand

Socionics(CIT)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Socionics(CIT)"> → Robotics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what the redirect refers to. The redirect was a stub that was WP:BLAR-ed by its creator the same day it was created. Steel1943 (talk) 01:01, 20 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:51, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Implausible search term due to the WP:UNNATURAL spacing error and non-standard disambiguator. The article content in the page history is eligible for G7 deletion since the creator blanked it, and seems to be related to the Socionics mess from a decade ago. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Flags of municipalities of Estonia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 28%23Flags of municipalities of Estonia

DNA experiments
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 8%23DNA experiments

Ars arcana
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Revisions of Magic in fiction in the range defined below by Mdewman6 between 2006 and 2008 include content copied from Ars arcana originally written by  in 2005. This discussion archive serves as record of attribution necessary for compliance with copyright law. signed,Rosguill talk 04:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → Magic in fiction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. In addition, third party searches return results for either a book/publication or a band. Steel1943 (talk) 19:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: A drafted Set index page can help close this. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 15:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: This redirect was the result of a merge in 2006, but the section with the merged content was boldly removed by an IP in 2008 and as far as I can tell not restored. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment this could equally point to the general topic of magic, as the arcane arts or ars arcana. I should think that arcane arts should be a set index, and the latinate term ars arcana should redirect to it. It should list magic, magic in fiction, spycraft, assassination craft, alchemy, occult worship, as the entries; with see alsos to the disambiguation pages for arcane (disambiguation) and arcana (disambiguation) and the wiktionary entries arcane & arcana -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 05:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: For further consideration of the late deletion proposal and to close the April 16th log page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:05, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for now due to a lack of mention. If that situation were to change, this can always be recreated. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Comment ideally this should be kept in some form for attribution, as the merged content would persist in the history of the current target; if deleted, some sort of maneuver (dummy edit perhaps) would need to happen for attribution. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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Seor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 24%23Seor

Funny Garbage
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Funny Garbage

Pupp Czech Open
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → WTA Prague Open (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I request its deletion to break the link. This is a standalone tournament, not belonging to the target or any other similar. The target's official website states on its frontpage that it's been held since 2010, its eldest archived version confirms that, whilst the only Pupp Czech Open's edition was played in 1996 ! Opencross (talk) 04:30, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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l England
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23l England

On the QT
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to on the Q.T.. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * → QT (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As soft redirect to wiktionary On the Q.T. would be more helpful that the current target Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:06, 19 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  01:01, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Soft retarget to wiktionary per nom. The expression is unambiguous, so a redirect to a definition would be more helpful to readers than one to a DAB page. Narky Blert (talk) 07:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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Hawaii World War II Army Airfields
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4%23Hawaii World War II Army Airfields