Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 6

August 6
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 6, 2022.

Ja'rod
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 16%23Ja'rod

M&L
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Early close per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 08:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * M&L → Manchester and Lawrence Railroad (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate due to no primary topic existing for this abbreviation. Even though the railroad might have the long-term significance advantage, Mario & Luigi (its competitor for the term "M&L") has |Mario_%26_Luigi a clear pageviews advantage over it. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support creating a disamb instead of existing redirect. Gusfriend (talk) 09:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support converting to dab page. Include Manchester and Leeds Railway as well. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support disambiguation – page drafted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support disambiguation per nom. —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:33, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Support disambiguation per all above. BD2412  T 18:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Interstate Twenty-one
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  10:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Interstate Twenty-one → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interstate 61 → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I-61 → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interstate 101 → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I-101 → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I-101 (DE) → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interstate 101 (Delaware) → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interstate 101 in Delaware → List of future Interstate Highways (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete due to the target having no information about these proposed Interstates. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all. None are mentioned at the target and none of them are current Interstates. CLYDE  FRANKLIN  21:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all No information on the target pages. Gusfriend (talk) 09:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all related to I-101 these seem to be based on a fake/proposed interstate on a wiki. I-21 and I-61 are at least theoretically feasible so I don't have a comment on them specifically. TartarTorte 21:03, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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2022 July Dnirpo missile strike
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 02:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * 2022 July Dnirpo missile strike → 2022 July Dnipro missile strike (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misspelling of the city Dnipro. Delete Talk:2022 July Dnirpo missile strike too. Super  Ψ   Dro  21:14, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Probable misspelling, although there is a triple redirect that needs to be fixed if it stays. CLYDE  FRANKLIN  21:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Correct target 2022 Dnipro missile strikes is easy to find. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: WP:CHEAP redirect, even with the double redirect right now, that should be easily corrected by a bot. I can't conceive of any other possible target. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 20:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per others above. Plausible misspelling, no good reason for deleting. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:53, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
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Animal Parade
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Harvest Moon: Animal Parade as the most supported solution. A hatnote will be added to the new target for WP:2DAB. Deryck C. 17:03, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Animal Parade → Teletubbies (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:18, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I was thinking of two potential targets but I'm not sure though. One is A Parade of Animals and the other is Harvest Moon: Animal Parade. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:14, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak disambig in addition to Lenticel's findings there is an entry in the discography at Carlos (singer) and a musical work noted at Iain Farrington, which I think makes enough for a dab. May Zoo Parade and Procession of the Species as see alsos? I expect we probably have some content somewhere about the parades that were common at some zoos in the early-mid 20th century, but I've not found anything yet. Thryduulf (talk) 13:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Replace with DAB page per Lentical and Thryduulf -Elmer Clark (talk) 06:18, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 20:14, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Harvest Moon: Animal Parade as an R from incomplete name with a hatnote to A Parade of Animals. Not sure that a dab page would be suitable as most entries with this title are rather osbcure. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Harvest Moon: Animal Parade as R from subtitle. A Parade of Animals is a proper title that would not be referred to in this manner, so I would oppose a hatnote. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:02, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Harvest Moon: Animal Parade as R from subtitle per Tavix and hatnote A Parade of Animals per Cyclone. Also if someone wants to create a disambiguation page (Thryduulf's See Alsos are helpful), I am not opposed to that. Jay  💬 03:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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J. R. Get Money
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 14%23J. R. Get Money

Dienestrol (unspecified)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dienestrol (unspecified)">Dienestrol (unspecified) → Dienestrol (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Dienestrol is a drug. Not sure what "(unspecified)" means, except maybe not Dienestrol diacetate. Doesn't seem like a useful search term. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 18:19, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It give a CAS-Number for the E,E-Isomer from dinestrol see CAS 13029-44-2 (Q5274949) and one for the Z,Z-Isomer see CAS 35495-11-5(Q27258829) and then you have also a CAS-number where it is not defined (specified) if it is EE or ZZ see 84-17-3 Q61734143. But I´m not a specialist - I think some one from WikiProject Chemistry could it better Explain it. We had in The german project also a discussion about this... --Calle Cool (talk) 20:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. The drug discussed in the article seems to be the E,E isomer specifically (aka α-dienestrol), but just "dienestrol" by itself could technically refer to multiple isomers, represented by the 84-17-3 CAS number where the stereochemistry is unspecified (which is the case for much of the literature). That said, I don't think we need nor typically have this sort of disambiguated redirect. Whether "dienestrol" is a sufficiently precise name for the article is a different question. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:33, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Egyptian First Republic
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Egypt. signed,Rosguill talk 21:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Egyptian First Republic → Egypt (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * First Republic of Egypt → Egyptian revolution of 1952 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"First Republic" is not mentioned in either of these target articles, but if these redirects are legitimate then they should point to the same article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Egypt: It's reasonable to consider the First Egyptian Republic (or at least what one would be looking for with that search term) to be the first republic would be the Republic under Naguid then Nassar before the formation of UAR and its subsequent dissolution. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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Eric Blumrich
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Batman Returns (Atari Lynx video game) to at least point to somewhere with encyclopedic information about the subject. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Eric Blumrich → Public image of George W. Bush (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Revert to the last article version and send to AfD per WP:BLAR. Speedy deletion templates have been removed by apparently independent editors on two occasions in the past, and the redirection is not a good outcome per this nomination, so it needs to be discussed at AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: this targets Public image of George W. Bush because it was redirected to BushFlash, which was redirected to Criticism of George W. Bush, which was redirected to Public image of George W. Bush. - Eureka Lott 21:11, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only article where he's currently mentioned is Batman Returns (Atari Lynx video game), but I don't think that would be an appropriate target. Reverting it to a two-sentence unreferenced version would be unproductive, because it would stand zero chance at WP:AFD. - Eureka Lott 23:59, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Given that speedy deletion has been rejected twice previously, deletion is by definition not uncontroversial and so we can only delete it via consensus (absent something like a copyvio which this isn't), which for an article can only come from AfD. That this consensus is all-but guaranteed is irrelevant. Thryduulf (talk) 00:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a deletion discussion, and we can make a decision here. This specific scenario is described at WP:SNOWBALL. I declined the recent speedy deletion nomination because the redirect didn't meet WP:R3, not because it's a valuable page. - Eureka Lott 00:29, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The R3 decline isn't relevant. What is relevant is that we would be deleting an article at RfD - there are only two cases where that is appropriate: (1) when the article was redirected with consensus (this wasn't), (2) when it would be speedily deletable as an article (this isn't, as previously explained WP:CSD explicitly prohibits speedy deletion in this case). WP:SNOWBALL cannot apply unless and until there are an overwhelming number of !votes in favour of a specific outcome, and given the RfD is 2:1 after 3 votes and the AfD is 0:0 after 0 we are not in snowball territory. Given that deletion as an article has been opposed in the past we cannot assume that there will be no opposition when it is actually properly nominated for deletion. I know you don't like this, but policy applies whether you like it or not. Thryduulf (talk) 01:29, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * And before anyone cites WP:IAR - that only applies when the rule being ignored is preventing you improving the encyclopaedia. Deleting pages outside of process is not and cannot under any circumstances be an improvement to the encyclopaedia. Thryduulf (talk) 01:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think this reasoning holds: the removal of a malformed CSD tag in 2005 and declined R3 in 2022 have no bearing on the likelihood of the article surviving AfD, which is what SNOWBALL would encourage us to gauge. WP:NOTBURO also applies. signed,Rosguill talk 20:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:49, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I strongly oppose restoring this, it is wholly inappropriate for mainspace. Other than that I am fine with deletion per Eureka Lott (and subsequent reply) or a retarget to Batman Returns (Atari Lynx video game), where I think there is just enough information there where I'd be comfortable with a redirect, given this is the only mention on Wikipedia. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The only articles that can be "wholly inappropriate" for mainspace without a consensus to that effect at AfD are those that meet one or more speedy deletion criteria. Thryduulf (talk) 08:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 4. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The revision in question would appear to meet A7, as well as BLPPROD, for lack of credible claims of significance or independent sources. signed,Rosguill talk 20:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 06:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the video game article where this person is mentioned. I agree the info there is trivial, but it is just enough for a redirect. It there is no consensus to redirect, then Delete here. An AFD would be a waste of very limited resources to repeat this discussion in another venue, WP:NOTBURO. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 04:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Batman Returns (Atari Lynx video game). Mr Blumrich does have a reputation - not necessarily a good one - for his various activities 20 years ago, so I think there's a case for keeping the redirect.  If the video game is his only notable contribution to topics of which Wikipedia takes notice, that should be the target of the redirect. Tevildo (talk) 11:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Batman Returns (Atari Lynx video game) per others above, where the subject is mentioned. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:46, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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Butter (alchemy)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 13%23Butter (alchemy)

French world
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 13%23French world