Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15

December 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 15, 2022.

Uctaa
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Uctaa → Apatheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. This redirect was originally created to target Apathetic agnosticism when it was an article; at one point, the redirect was mentioned in that article. Steel1943 (talk) 22:47, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - Evidently an acronym for "Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic" (website; has also used uctaa.net but this site appears to accessible only on Wayback now), an organisation apparently founded by a John Tyrrell in 1996 (according to this site). Not clear that this is a notable organisation; same goes for Tyrrell. If either of them is notable, then this seems like a case of WP:REDYES since there doesn't seem to be any coverage anywhere on the encyclopedia. (Although Tyrrell, specifically on UCTAA's website, is referenced by Apatheism at .)– Scyrme (talk) 23:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. No mention of Uctaa or UCTAA (or Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic) in Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Theoretical atheism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Theoretical atheism → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, nor does the targeted section exist, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. This redirect was created an article created in 2008, but the article was subject to a WP:BLAR one day later. Steel1943 (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete until content is added. I found an online source which contrasts it with practical atheism. That site isn't particularly reliable, but I did also find this book which appears to do the same. I also found a number of Christian evangelist sites that discuss it disapprovingly. There is no coverage of this topic on the encylcopedia, so this is a case of WP:REDYES. It should be left vacant until content is added, after which it can be created again. – Scyrme (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for now, per Scyrme. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Pragmatic atheism
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 23%23Pragmatic atheism

Fundamentalist Atheist
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to New Atheism. Consider this similar to a nomination withdraw. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 23:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Fundamentalist Atheist → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect (specifically "Fundamentalist") and the target article unclear. In addition, when this redirect was created in 2011, it targeted Militant atheism, but was changed to the current target a few months later. Steel1943 (talk) 21:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to New Atheism where it is mentionedl; the description there is adequate. Same target as Fundamentalist Atheism. "Fundamentalist atheist" is commonly used in jest or a perjorative, often synonymously with "militant atheist".
 * Regarding Militant atheism it appears to have been blanked and redirected multiple times, at least one of which was the outcome of an AfD; it has also previously been a disambiguation page listing State Atheism, League of Militant Atheists, and New Atheism. The last was qualified as A pejorative term for..., which agrees with the statement at New Atheism. – Scyrme (talk) 23:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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'zine
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Zine.  ✗  plicit  23:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 'zine → Fanzine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't see any reason to think that the presence of an apostrophe makes this exclusively an abbreviation for fanzine, rather than an alternate spelling of zine. Dictionary.com, based on Random House, has them as synonymous. (It then says both are abbreviations of fanzine, but I think that's because most sources don't consider zine and fanzine as distinct topics, and I'm not entirely convinced we should; but that's beyond RfD's scope.) So as long as Zine and Fanzine are distinct articles, we should retarget to Zine. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 20:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget - Agree with nominator. Zine also links to fanzine in its first sentence so anyone looking for that page would still find it. – Scyrme (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Zine per the above. A7V2 (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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XI-B
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 22%23XI-B

Devil and atheism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Devil and atheism → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Atheism and the Devil → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The word devil has mentioned nowhere in the target article, meaning such a joint concept as referenced by these redirects does not exist in the target article. Due to the aforementioned issue, these redirects have WP:XY issues. Steel1943 (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete both per nom. Veverve (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Not useful for navigation, and look like original research. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Nullifidian
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to nullifidian. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:21, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Nullifidian → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leading the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. However, this redirect is mentioned in Laurence Urdang, the only article on Wikipedia that mentions this word; However, the usage of the redirect in the aforementioned article does not properly define what the redirect means. Steel1943 (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The word "" is a dated synonym for "unbeliever", but is attested in some sources. It is apparently occassionally used by modern sceptics/atheists; Google Scholar shows that Richard Dawkins wrote for a publication called "The Nullifidian", for example. Looking more closely, it seems that the synonymy with "atheist" may be a modern invention, as part of a general reclaimation of terms like "unbeliever" by atheists. Historically, it seems to have referred to "unbelievers" in a broader sense; that is, particularly strict christians might accuse other christians sects or muslims of being "unbelievers". It also seems to have had a stricter technical sense, in reference to Christians who do not hold the protestant view of sola fide; that is, "" may be used as the antonym of "".
 * Given this, I'd favour a soft redirect to Wiktionary; there is no coverage of the history or nuances of this term on Wikipedia, which isn't necessarily a synonym of "atheist". A soft redirect to Wiktionary would be preferable to deletion as it gives a definition and references Webster's Dictionary (1913) with an accessible link. – Scyrme (talk) 21:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary, per Scyrme. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Atheism and behavior
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Atheism and behavior → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear redirect where the subject of the redirect may not necessarily be mentioned in the target article. The target article includes some information about behaviors, but in regards to a social behaviors of associated subjects. Without a clear association of the redirect to the target article, this redirect has an inherent WP:XY issue. Steel1943 (talk) 19:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - If there were a section with this exact title I could see a reason to keep, but looking at the redirect's history it doesn't seem there ever was one. It had been targeted to but that's not really the same thing. In absence of a section, this redirect simply isn't needed; better to allow uninhibited searching. The redirect is tagged "With possibilities", but that's not really true because it's so vague. This title is formated like the topic of an essay prompt which is not appropriate for the title of an article; there are no "possibilities" here. – Scyrme (talk) 22:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, as WP:XY. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Atheism/DR
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Atheism/DR">Atheism/DR → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As a search term, this title is rather worthless and unclear. This redirect is a R with history with history that seems like a group of editors attempting to make some revisions to the current article between the years of 2004 and 2005. For this reason, there might be a need to retain this information and edit history, but I'm not sure. (If the determination is for this edit history to be moved, then it should be moved to a page that is not a subpage of a talk page, nor remain at its current title.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. I looked in some detail through the edit history of Atheism, and it doesn't really look like this was pasted into that page at some point, so I don't really think that there is history that needs to be preserved (and the redirect name is obviously not encyclopedic). From an edit history perspective, deleting the redirect is equivalent to deleting a blanked page at AfD. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:11, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Protest atheism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Protest atheism → Atheism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Protest Atheism → Problem of evil (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target articles, leaving the connection between the redirects and the target articles clear. However, Protest atheism is a R with history that was an article for a few months during 2007 to 2008 that was subject to a WP:BLAR. Also, the original target of Protest atheism was Problem of evil, but the redirects are not mentioned there either. Steel1943 (talk) 19:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. I don't really think that there is an edit history that needs to be preserved, and the topic does not serve a useful navigation purpose. From an edit history perspective, deleting the redirect is equivalent to deleting a blanked page at AfD. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Refugee crisis in germany today
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Refugee crisis in germany today → 2015 European migrant crisis (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article arguably doesn't describe the "Refugee crisis in germany today". I think this should be deleted per MOS:DATED. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete since it is not 2015 and WP:NOTNEWS. Steel1943  (talk) 22:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Steel1943. --Tserton (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Doge
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 23%23Template:Infobox Doge

Minecraft (2019 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was moved without leaving redirect  to Minecraft (upcoming film) by . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:49, 21 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Minecraft (2019 film)">Minecraft (2019 film) → Minecraft (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I would like this page deleted because a Minecraft film is still possible but was not released in 2019. 99.209.40.250 (talk) 16:46, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This used to be an article, but was BLARed because of Articles for deletion/Minecraft (2019 film). Judging from Minecraft (franchise), the film is still in the works. Duckmather (talk) 00:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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3D animation
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Computer animation.  Anarchyte  ( talk ) 12:01, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 3D animation → Animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3D Animation → Animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3d animation → Computer animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3D animated → Computer animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3-D animation → 3D computer graphics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3-D Animation → Computer animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

All of these should target the same target, but I'm not sure which target that should be. (NOTE: The section/target of some of the redirects, Animation, does not exist.) Steel1943  (talk) 08:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 16:40, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The two first redirects actually don't work! I suggest they all should point to Computer animation, even though some hand animation can be 3-D. --Janke | Talk 09:12, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. Computer animation is a good target. SWinxy (talk) 15:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Digital sculpture
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 30%23Digital sculpture

Model (CGI)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to 3D modelling. signed,Rosguill talk 22:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Model (CGI)">Model (CGI) → 3D computer graphics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Due to the wording of the title and disambiguator combination, I'm not sure if this or 3D modelling would be the most appropriate target, leaving a possibly unsolvable situation with the redirect's ambiguous title. Steel1943 (talk) 08:01, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 16:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that 3D modelling would be the better target, as while both articles are in the scope of "CGI", the 3D modelling article focuses specifically on models themselves, and as such is a closer fit to the redirect phrasing. As such, Retarget to 3D modelling. 193.37.240.37 (talk) 12:05, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Modeling program
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 27%23Modeling program

Doom spin-offs and homages
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 * The result of the discussion was move to Doom spin-offs  .  Jay  💬 06:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Doom spin-offs and homages → Doom (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The subject of the title of the redirect does not seem to be in the target article: Nothing in the target article seems to be a "spin-off" or a "homage". This redirect is a R from merge that was the result of a merge in 2009, but it doesn't seem as though the content hiding under this redirect is currently anywhere in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 07:45, 8 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 16:27, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing and per WP:XY. Spinoffs is usually done by the same creators/company while homages are made by fans or other creators. -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 00:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The redirect has history that may have attribution for older revisions of Doom (franchise). Consider moving this redirect to Doom spin-offs to retain the history and remove the XY issue. Anarchyte  ( talk ) 10:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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 * Move to Doom spin-offs per Anarchyte for solving the XY issue. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:45, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Rip and tear
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to newly created Disambiguation page at Rip and Tear  . There seems to be pretty universal consensus for disambiguation. As the disambiguated terms are all capitalized as Rip and Tear then retargeting this to the Rip and Tear DAB is the solution. (non-admin closure) <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 20:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Rip and tear → Doom (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. The redirect is mentioned in Doom (2016 video game) as a name of a song with "Tear" capitalized, but it's not the only article on Wikipedia with a song mentioned named "Rip and Tear"; in fact, the "Rip and Tear" song mentioned in Cocked & Loaded seems as though it may pass WP:GNG if it were the subject of an article. Steel1943 (talk) 07:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 16:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Disambiguate among all songs mentioned onwiki. Also include Tearing (also called ripping), which is the first thing I thought of. Duckmather (talk) 00:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Duckmather. Passes WP:TWODABS (unless someone wants to argue for a primary topic). Hatnotes wouldn't really work here; disambiguation seems list the best solution. – Scyrme (talk) 00:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want someone to argue for a primary topic, then I’d argue that Tearing is the one. Surely many more readers know about materials physically tearing apart (it isn’t that hard to do!) vs. a hodgepodge of obscure songs from years ago! (However, tearing is also quite obscure as a subject of inquiry, so disambiguation is not such a far-fetched idea.) Duckmather (talk) 01:00, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to the new disambiguation page Rip and Tear which at that capitalisation is the ambiguous term. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Doom (video game)
<span id="Doom (video game)"> <span id="Doom (videogame)"> <span id="Doom (game)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 27%23Doom (video game)

Hank Pecker
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 30%23Hank Pecker

T25 Sherman
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:04, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * T25 Sherman → T25 Medium Tank (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete; page has been moved to "T25 Medium Tank" due to incorrect page title, "T25 Sherman" is not a correct name for the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshua2604 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 15:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as R from move and R from incorrect name. Article was at this title for ~10 months, long enough to collect links. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:06, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The matter started when moved the page as the tank are never referred as T-25 Sherman. If the tank is never referred as T-25 Sherman, T-25 Sherman should not point to T-25 Medium Tank. Google searches on T-25 Sherman didn't turn up anything, the only relationship between T-25 to Shermans is that T-25 is the successor of Shermans, clarifying that they are pointing to different tanks.   &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   01:53, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep as R from move. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per . After reviewing the target article and the subject that was "made previous to the target", seems like the redirect is a quite plausible R from incorrect name due to "T24" vs "T25" regardless if "Sherman" is incorrect. Steel1943  (talk) 18:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Wm
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Sakkiliyar
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Nomination rattionale mooted by subsequent edits providing a sourced mention at the target. signed,Rosguill talk 22:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Sakkiliyar → Arunthathiyar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target or anywhere else in the encyclopedia. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 03:06, 17 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde Franklin wishes you a happy Thanksgiving! 21:36, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * These pointing to the same target can be bundled as well: Sakkiliar, Sakkili, Sakilli. Sakkiliar has multiple enwiki mentions though. Or they could be tagged as alternate spellings of Chakkiliyar which is mentioned. Jay  💬 03:02, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Tagging them as alternate spellings seems to be the better option. Nkb 21 (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Another WP:INVOLVED relist. This discussion was previously closed as delete but was reopened upon request. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete since there's no mention at the target; and nominate the others on a separate RfD, if needed. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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 * Added a sourced mention. Jay  💬 10:29, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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Yūka Morishima
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Run Girls, Run!. Nominally no consensus between retarget and deletion, defaulting to retarget in the absence of support for the status quo. signed,Rosguill talk 23:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Yūka Morishima">Yūka Morishima → Kiratto Pri Chan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Person who is also a member of Run Girls, Run! and has an article in Japanese Wikipedia (ja:森嶋優花). Recommend deletion per WP:REDLINK and WP:XY. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 19:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Note that current target has nothing about this person and is instead about a character they voiced, and includes a circular link. A7V2 (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Run Girls, Run! and remove the circular redirect there. Jay  💬 02:51, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: WP:INVOLVED relist for closing an old log page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - I feel that deletion should still be preferred over the alternative proposed target as there is still very little information there and since the other two members have articles and there is an article on Japanese wikipedia, reason to delete 10 and WP:REDYES apply. A7V2 (talk) 00:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The other two having articles is a sound argument, and I was going to alter my vote. But doing a search shows many results, and it's not easy to figure out that she is member of a voice group called Run Girls, Run!. I still find the voice group target better than the search results. Someone who wants to write an article can request for the restoration of Draft:Yūka Morishima which was abandoned in 2019. It didn't have much, but will be a starting point. Jay  💬 07:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Jay. Even though there's little information about the subject, it still seems like a likely and useful search term, as readers will be redirected to the correct article. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:REDYES. Legoktm (talk) 02:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
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008800
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  14:33, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 008800 → Green (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target page, so redirect wouldn't be particularly useful. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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FF7F00
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  14:33, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * FF7F00 → Orange (colour) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target page (this code is used at List of colors: N–Z as Orange, but it isn't used in the main article). &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:31, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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FFC0DB
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 07:19, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * FFC0DB → Pink (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article since 2016. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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BotezLive
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and disambiguate with a hatnote. signed,Rosguill talk 22:23, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * BotezLive → Alexandra Botez (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what the best course of action here is. The YouTube/Twitch channel BotezLive is hosted by both Alexandra Botez and Andrea Botez, so linking to only one of them is misleading. Could be disambiguated (suffers from WP:TWODABS), deleted, or expanded into an actual article (but unlikely to be independently notable outside of the sisters). Anarchyte ( talk ) 05:34, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * this might be a bit unfair to Andrea, bit I'd argue that Alexandra is the main topic per WP:ONEOTHER. She joined her sister on the channel after it had already been active, wasn't even an adult when it began and is far less notable as a chess player. If both become more notable overall a disambig page could make sense, but right now I'd just link Andrea more prominently in the beginning of Alexandras lead and keep the rest as is. --jonas (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * In terms of page views, Andrea gets just under 80% of Alexandra's views (35k to 45k), so there's not much in it. Perhaps a redirects here hatnote linking to Andrea is the best course of action. Anarchyte  ( talk ) 09:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I have added the hatnote. Jay  💬 07:15, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Drop Dead Fred (2011 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:32, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Drop Dead Fred (2011 film)">Drop Dead Fred (2011 film) → Drop Dead Fred (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no 2011 Drop Dead Fred film. The redirect goes to Drop Dead Fred, however there is nothing in the main article that discuss a possible remake. There hasn't been talks of a remake since 2009.  Mike  Allen  03:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete – The remake section did exist at one time as recent as December 2011, as you can see here, but it appears that was linked to an unreliable source. Since it was likely based on rumor or speculation, the redirect should be deleted. --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:51, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This rumor is not notable. RoostTC (ping me!) 05:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Could have been plausible at the time but not anymore. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 13:27, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: This redirect is a R with history. Not sure if that means the edit history may need to be retained and/or if the target article has revisions that consists of the content in the edit history of this redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 00:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, content was not merged. only commented out the content with edit summary .  Jay  💬 03:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Volcano E
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  03:46, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Volcano E → Eyjafjallajökull (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure if this is a typo or what. This volcano is aka Volcano E15, but that redirect already exists. Delete. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 02:04, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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Smartmusic
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