Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 8

December 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 8, 2022.

Ukrainian crisis (2013-present)
   Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%23Ukrainian crisis (2013-present)

Content Overseas Distribution Organization
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Content Overseas Distribution Organization → Content Overseas Distribution Association (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nothing mentioned for "Content Overseas Distribution Organization" Malverna  23:25, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - the nominator is the only substantive author of the current target and moved it to its current title shortly after the article was created a couple of weeks ago so I'd say this qualifies for speedy deletion under WP:G7 or presumably WP:G6 (if it was created in error). A7V2 (talk) 06:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
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120mins
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%23120mins

Founding Fathers
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 17%23Founding Fathers

Nolan Oloroso
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:40, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Nolan Oloroso → Jam Agarao (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a notable person. The only page linking to this redirect is the target of the redirect. I am not sure if any speedy delete criteria apply, so am starting this RfD instead. Archer1234 (talk) 20:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete functionally a one-article circular redirect; the article in question names but does not have any text discussing the person in question. Pointless.  -- Jayron 32 13:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not mentioned in redirect target. Toddst1 (talk) 19:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
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Abraham f
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and tagged as a R without mention. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Abraham f → Abraham Raimbach (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

More Eubot post-digestive matter. In this case I can't figure out what's going on here and what Eubot would create this. Would recommend that others look over User:Champion/Eubot list at various points, where I'm sure there's more stuff like this. Hog Farm Talk 19:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep since Abraham ƒ, the reason why Eubot created this redirect, exists and targets the same target as the nominated redirect. (If Abraham ƒ ends up being bundled with this nomination, my vote will have to be adjusted.) Steel1943  (talk) 20:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Steel1943. I'm not entirely sure why Abraham ƒ is a redirect here, but I also know nothing of engraving. As long as exists, it makes sense for this to exist. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 21:57, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment is there some document that shows that Abraham ƒ is a nickname for Raimbach? Otherwise this might need a tag.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
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Snake handling in religion
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%23Snake handling in religion

Portingles (version 2)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 19:28, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Portingles (version 2)">Portingles (version 2) → Porglish (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

More Eubot trash from 2008 - the bot noted the existence of Portinglês (version 2), which consists of old history, and decided that this was necessary. This isn't a logical search term, and what this was based on existed only for internal purposes, so this is useless. Hog Farm Talk 19:23, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I moved the edit history of Portinglês (version 2) to Portinglês to get the edit history away from that odd title, considering the content was a R from merge. (With that being said, I was considering merging Portinglês (version 2) into this nomination, but since it would be for a different reason that the nominator's rationale, I'm holding off for now.) Steel1943  (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete old housekeeping stuff that doesn't have any worthy history to merge. The Portinglês redirect on the other hand has some history AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
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Wanted(comic book)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 19:26, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wanted(comic book)">Wanted(comic book) → Wanted (comics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Vengeance(comic book)">The Vengeance(comic book) → Super Commando Dhruva (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These were moved to the correctly spaced titles years before (in 2004 and 2013 respectively), and further history consists of fixing double redirects. I'm not sure why we still need them, so I thought I'd bring them over to RfD to discuss. Regards, SONIC 678 18:48, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as housekeeping. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:25, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
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XI-B
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23XI-B

Template:Infobox Doge
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Standard primary habitability
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 20%23Standard primary habitability

Compu-drama
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gold (short story).  Jay  💬 16:47, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Compu-drama → Computer animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the target article's subject and the redirect's subject unclear. However, this redirect is mentioned in some articles on Wikipedia, but none of these articles go to any extent to identify or defined the term of the redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 09:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Gold (short story). Seems to be a term from this specific Asimov story. The concept it refers to sounds like it is describing a computer animation, but the term doesn't seem to be in general use outside of the context of the story. I would retarget the term to the story article (where it is described) and maybe rework the body of articles that describe the plot of the story to include a link to the computer animation article at points where the term appears as a means of additional explanation. 193.37.240.37 (talk) 11:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gold (short story) as proposed by the IP. All of the mentions on enwiki refer to this story. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:10, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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3D animation
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%233D animation

Digital sculpture
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Digital sculpture

3D material
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%233D material

3D art
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 25%233D art

Nihali language/archive
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 17%23Nihali language/archive

Thomas Percy (bishop)/Archive
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 * The result of the discussion was move without redirect  to Thomas Percy (died 1811). -- Tavix  ( talk ) 01:00, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Thomas Percy (bishop)/Archive">Thomas Percy (bishop)/Archive → Thomas Percy (bishop of Dromore) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

History contains a duplicate article of Thomas Percy (bishop of Dromore). Article was redirected outright by Deb, rather than merged, so does not need to be kept for attribution. (The move to this title by Tassedethe came later.) I tend toward deletion; alternately, could be moved to Thomas Percy (translator), Thomas Percy (died 1811), or similar. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree - delete. Deb (talk) 08:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:09, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Disagree. It was a merge by with summary merging duplicate articles. See the .  Jay  💬 06:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'll be honest - I really don't remember. Deb (talk) 14:58, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Move to Thomas Percy (died 1811) to preserve history. Reading through the target article, it seems like translation was arguably the least notable thing Percy did. signed,Rosguill talk 21:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * How about a move to Thomas Percy (Dromore)? Jay  💬 09:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Move (without leaving a redirect behind: subpages are not supported in mainspace) to either Thomas Percy (died 1811) or Thomas Percy (Dromore): both appear unambiguous. – Uanfala (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
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3D acceleration
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%233D acceleration

Model (CGI)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Model (CGI)

Modeling program
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Modeling program

Doom spin-offs and homages
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Doom spin-offs and homages

Market study
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 17%23Market study

The Big Reveal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The Big Reveal → Sasha Velour (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Title of an upcoming novel by the subject, not mentioned on target page. At minimum too soon; the subject is two out of the seventeen hits I get on the first page of a search. Rusalkii (talk) 06:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 07:41, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Possibly also The Big Reveal: An Illustrated Manifesto of Drag., but that one is sufficiently specific to be unambiguous, though it should drop the period. Rusalkii  (talk) 06:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Rusalkii, I realized that there was a period for The Big Reveal: An Illustrated Manifesto of Drag. The period is removed. If you think that The Big Reveal is a problem for searching, okay then. I just did this because there some articles that only include the first three words, but hey I am not complaining. — <span style="background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#8A4FBF,#9B6DC6,#B691D2,#CBAED7);color:black;padding:2.5px">JuanGLP ( talk ) 13:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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Rip and tear
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Rip and tear

Doom (video game)
<span id="Doom (video game)"> <span id="Doom (videogame)"> <span id="Doom (game)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Doom (video game)

John Grimm
<span id="John &quot;Reaper&quot; Grimm"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 16%23John Grimm

Rapid Response Tactical Squad
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Doom (film). signed,Rosguill talk 21:31, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Rapid Response Tactical Squad → Doom (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article, Doom (film), Doom: Annihilation, or Doomguy. It's unclear what this redirect is meant to represent, and without mention, readers will not know why they were redirected to any target in addition to not finding the information they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 06:52, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Doom (film) mentioned RRTS, and the referenced source there mentions Rapid Response Tactical Squad. I have expanded the acronym at that article. Jay  💬 16:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Doom (film) now that the mention there was expanded. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hank Pecker
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23Hank Pecker

T25 Sherman
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 15%23T25 Sherman

Spoiler Alert: The Hero Dies
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Nominator withdrew upon encountering a keep vote, instead starting an article themselves so that the page is no longer a redirect. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Spoiler Alert: The Hero Dies → Spoiler Alert (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Requesting deletion of the redirect since it is confusing for the film article's link to the book article to lead back to the film article. Per WP:REDLINK, there is substantial justification for having a standalone book article, and deleting the redirect to make visible a red link would help encourage creation of a book article. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 03:09, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Notwithstanding the nominator's comment essentially stating that the book's article doesn't exist, the redirect seems to be the equivalent of a R from working title since it is the title of the book. Steel1943  (talk) 07:04, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's not going to be a breeze here, I'm just going to withdraw. I was hoping to make it a red link to encourage article creation and eliminate the roundabout setup that is happening here. I've started a one-sentence stub so readers actually go somewhere other than the film article. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 13:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Dominant language
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Dominant language → Language dominance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I happened to come across this and was surprised... not the topic/redirect I expected at all... Dominant Language and Language dominance are two different things. While it can refer to imperialism, it is more often used as the dominant language in a person's mind or daily usage. I looked for a better target to redirect to, but could not find any; the topic does not seem to be given any attention. As it currently is, it doesn't make sense to keep it this way. 2600:8800:2C00:BC00:2DED:4919:9B94:F1AD (talk) 09:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The current target explains several definitions of a "dominant language". If there were an article on the topic you refer to then it could be added there, but deleting redirects because they are ambiguous with something that isn't even mentioned anywhere isn't done here. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 19:23, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It would be much better if Language dominance really did include a brief explanation of each of the three terms listed. But it does not. And it would make sense if the page also mentioned  "dominant language" and what that means. -- Toddy1 (talk) 10:01, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 09:28, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * From a quick browse, it appears that the terms "language dominance" and "dominant language" can refer either to an individual's psychological reality (which of the several languages the person speaks is the main one) or to a social fact (which language is the most widely spoken, or has higher prestige and institutional support). I can't see any treatment of either topic on Wikipedia (for the first one, there's minor mentions in Multilingualism and in First language, but neither is useful for readers who may be using this redirect). So I'd rather have both the redirect and the dab page deleted. – Uanfala (talk) 15:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: As the target disambiguation page has been rewritten. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 02:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've rewritten the dab page to reflect the two uses I've outlined above, so I don't have any particular concerns with keeping the redirect. It would still be a viable option to delete the dab page (along with all incoming redirects), but it seems like it reflects plausible reader searches, so I'd rather leave it be. – Uanfala (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The dab lists all possible outcomes, see Template:R from ambiguous term/doc. Clyde!Franklin! 02:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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