Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 16

July 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 16, 2022.

Hell (forum)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 24%23Hell (forum)

Yes! Yes!
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes! Yes! → Street Fighter (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, internet search results are largely unrelated, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 20:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep The redirect comes from a quote used by M. Bison in the cartoon. It was particularly used for early YouTube Poop's on the same vein as Hotel Mario and Wand of Gamelon and has been used relatively decently. There should perhaps be further detail with the reception section of the Street Fighter (TV series) article as admittedly, the section only goes into the critical reception rather than the cult following the show garnered on during early YouTube Poop's. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 05:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Redirects of ambiguous phrases like this are confusing unless there is a mention (and a good reason for so mentioning). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:12, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia isn't Know your Meme. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I believe a meme is going to need better coverage than YouTube Poop for it to be included here.--67.70.24.37 (talk) 04:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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Suicide Six
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 24%23Suicide Six

Animal Parade
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 24%23Animal Parade

St Hilda’s, Middlesbrough
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Per WP:CSK: No accurate deletion rationale has been provided. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


 * St Hilda’s, Middlesbrough → Middlehaven (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * St. Hilda’s, Middlesbrough → Middlehaven (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

incorrect type of apostrophe Ingratis (talk) 09:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep no proper justification given. We have lots of different modifications that redirect to their correct forms as redirects all over Wikipedia -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 20:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Bundled two related RfDs with identical noms and identical rebuttals. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:56, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Redirects are allowed to go against MoS, and many do. The only question is if they're useful to our readers, and as some softwares automatically insert "smart quotes", I'd say ones like this are. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:57, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tamzin and the IP editor. The only question is whether these are useful search terms, and when the only difference is typography the answer is always yes. They should be marked as s of St. Hilda's, Middlesbrough. Thryduulf (talk) 09:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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First cat
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:11, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * First cat → United States presidential pets (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Similar to First dog (c.f. Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15) I suggest this is disambiguated as it could refer to feline pets of US presidents, Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office, Think Think and Ah Tsai (pet cats of the Taiwanese president), Domestication of the cat and possibly other targets. Thryduulf (talk) 08:40, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate to United States presidential pets, domestication of the cat, and the other politicats mentioned here -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 20:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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Menswear
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fashion.  Jay  Diversity icon green.svg 18:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Menswear → Suit (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Menswear is more than just suits. Better off as a redlink to prompt people to create an actual article. Anarchyte ( talk ) 07:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment men's fashion exist, this could be repointed to fashion with a -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 07:40, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That's an alternative and would be in line with womenswear, so I'm not opposed to the idea. Anarchyte  ( talk ) 07:45, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fashion as an avoided double redirect to Men's fashion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:07, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to fashion to avoid the double redirect. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:47, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to fashion per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:15, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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The security
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Country Cameroon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  Diversity icon green.svg 18:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Country Cameroon → Cameroon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term, the only really similar title I was able to find was Country Canada which is the actual name of a couple of topics, but there doesn't seem to be any exact topics with this name. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:57, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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Magnon, Gabon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  Diversity icon green.svg 18:05, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Magnon, Gabon">Magnon, Gabon → Gabon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Searches confirm that such a locality exists, but isn't mentioned in the target or anywhere else on Wikipedia. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, if used somewhere it is less misleading to leave it as a redlink. CMD (talk) 22:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to promote article creation. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and others. A7V2 (talk) 02:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to TNT and start over as an article later. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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Iron Golem
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 24%23Iron Golem

斯大林
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Relisting only lands us at the same deadlock as before. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="斯大林">斯大林 → Joseph Stalin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

What does Stalin have to do with China? TraderCharlotte (talk) 00:57, 9 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:57, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- <b style="color:red">King of ♥</b><b style="color:red"> ♦</b><b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 01:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * comment Stalin seems to be notable with the Chinese according to the Sino-Soviet split article. However, someone more versed in Soviet history might have a better idea about this RfD. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:27, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, as a very common search term.  J947  † edits 06:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. I recognize that I take a more lenient view than many on this, but in my opinion there's an affinity between a national-level topic in one country and a national-level language in a neighboring country. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 06:06, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Whether there is an affinity to a language of a neighboring country should be considered on a case-by-case basis, and the Sino-Soviet split does not seem to warrant enough connection to Stalin himself in Chinese. In any case, we don't have redirects like 이오시프 스탈린 or Józef Stalin and creating such redirects will open another whole can of worms. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hitler, Adolf 1889-1945
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  .  ✗  plicit  11:32, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hitler, Adolf 1889-1945">Hitler, Adolf 1889-1945 → Adolf Hitler (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term. WP:Pandora's Box? TraderCharlotte (talk) 00:54, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible search term. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I put this up as sites like archive.org will use this formatting as automatic links. So they also have Lincoln, Abraham 1809-1865 etc--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 03:17, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlikely search term. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, this syntax seems common for historical figures, so the redirect is unambiguous, harmless, and potentially useful. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Seems like a reasonable syntax that you'd see in e.g. other encyclopedias, which list people first by surname. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 12:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Bellerophon5685, Joseph2302 and CycloneYoris and a reminder that Pandora's box is not a thing of any relevance to redirects. Thryduulf (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:22, 16 July 2022
 * Delete: Hitler, Adolf already exists and the correct stylization would be Hitler, Adolf (1889-1945) anyway. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless, and per Bellerophon5685 there seems to be some use for it. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:54, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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The new Bernanke
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The new Bernanke → Janet Yellen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Reference to Ben Bernanke, but, same as the nomination below, this isn't a term that people use. TraderCharlotte (talk) 00:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Or redirect to Ben Bernanke if must stay--the majority of gserach results use it to describe Bernanke changing or his second term as fed chair. Skynxnex (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: same reason as i gave below not to retarget Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Skynxnex, if it instead refers to Bernanke himself. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:07, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete it's a very silly way of referring to Ben Bernanke which is limited to some newspaper articles, it might also refer to Bernanke's successor, but given that neither person's article mentions it I don't see that it's worth either keeping nor disambiguation. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 01:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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Marathon RED
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Apfelbäume
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Apfelbäume">Apfelbäume → Apple (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Apfelbaume → Apple (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete this as well as Apfelbaume. Apples don't seem to have any connection to Germany; aren't apples from Central Asia? TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Procedural, Apfelbaume was not tagged for deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Both WP:RFFL. Happy Editing-- IAm  Chaos  05:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all as an insignificant foreign-name redirect. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:17, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete - one random literal translation, one misspelling of same. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:PH
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 23%23Wikipedia:PH