Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 28

July 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 28, 2022.

Jackson Norris (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Jackson Norris (Marvel Cinematic Universe) → Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: M–Z (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should this redirect exist? The character's name is Jackson Norriss with two s's. The redirects at Jackson Norriss and Jackson Norriss (Marvel Cinematic Universe) already exist. My vote is to delete this one since the character's name is misspelled, and the proper names already exist as redirects. TNstingray (talk) 23:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible title (especially due to it including (Marvel Cinematic Universe), left behind as a result of a page move. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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Interstate 50
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 * The result of the discussion was Restore everything  . The disambiguation  page was move to Interstate 50 and the redirect was suppressed. Interstate 50 was then restored to its former state. Too much original research. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 05:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Interstate 50 → U.S. Route 412 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Interstate 50" not mentioned anywhere in the article, nor can I find anything anywhere stating that this route will be (or has been proposed to be) designated as Interstate 50. Waddles 🗩 🖉 22:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * To me, Route 412 being Interstate 50 just makes sense. Highway 50 runs through Missouri, so having Interstate 50 in that state is out. As we know, Interstate 10 runs through the Southern states from California to Florida, Interstate 20 runs through the northern portions of those states such as Louisiana, Interstate 30 runs through the state of Arkansas and Texas and such areas like Texarkana, Little Rock, Dallas/Fort Worth, Interstate 40 goes from California to North Carolina and includes such cities as Fort Smith, Arkansas, while Interstate 70 runs through Kansas City and St. Louis, both in Missouri. So, where would Interstate 50 slot in at? Since Highway 50 runs through Missouri, it cannot be in that state unless Highway 50 was rechristened as Interstate 60 and Highway 60 rechristened as Interstate 50. So, this leaves two possible spots, Highway 62, which includes such cities like Tulsa, Oklahoma, Farmington and Fayetteville, both in Arkansas (but that is unlikely as the entirety of the route through Washington County would get Business Designation due to it running through businesses), or the more likely spot of 412, which goes through Siloam Springs and Springdale, also in Arkansas. This is just my opinion here. I'll search for Interstate 50 and if I find any good sources, I'll put them up here. Moline1 (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I did find this source: http://futureinterstatecorridors.com/I-50,%20I-60,%20I-70%20Trans%20America%20Highway.html It describes Interstate 50/60 as going through Springfield, Missouri. Obviously, this will not work unless Highway's 50/60 designation is stripped. So, what I described above would be the easiest way to getting an I-50, plus with Northwest Arkansas on the grow, having 412 designated an Interstate (E.G. I-50) would be very beneficial to the area. As for where I--60 could slot in now, I do not know. Moline1 (talk) 23:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That is just your opinion though, it is not a verified fact. Please wait until the highway receives a proper Interstate designation proposal before making pages like these and you can source the content properly, or else it violates WP:CRYSTAL. Waddles 🗩 🖉</b> 23:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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New-York Courrier
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * New-York Courrier → New York Courier and Enquirer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet another redirect based on a post in the GPT2 subreddit. Can't find any evidence from plain search that this spelling was ever used in English, but the ProQuest results are a bit less clear and may be about a different, French-language newspaper not covered in enwiki. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 20:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per potentially being a confusing WP:FORRED issue of mixing two languages. See Courrier; apparently, "courrier" is the French word for "courier", and for that reason and since the target is based in New York, there is potential that someone searching this term could be looking for Courrier des États-Unis, which is also based out of New York. Steel1943  (talk) 22:03, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That was probably what I saw in ProQuest in one of the results. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 23:30, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hillary Clintom
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hillary Clintom → Hillary Clinton (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misspelling with |Hillary_Clinton only 25 pageviews since creation on 18 April 2022 and minimal trace online. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 20:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, likely more useful than harmful.  J947  † edits 04:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep  per WP:CHEAP. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1659273513525:WikipediaFTTCLNRedirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_July_28" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl talk  13:18, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's a WP:CHEAP and plausible typo, and 25 pageviews might not sound like a lot, but it's enough to have a redirect. CLYDE  FRANKLIN  02:19, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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Smiledog.jpg
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U k
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Star (Murk (band) album)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Star (Murk (band) album)">Star (Murk (band) album) → Murk (band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This disambiguator within disambiguator makes this redirect very implausible. serves the same purpose without the interior disambiguator. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OOjs UI icon add-constructive.svg Support per nom. &#8213; <span id="Qwerfjkl:1659044082537:WikipediaFTTCLNRedirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_July_28" class="FTTCmt"> Qwerfjkl talk  21:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OOjs UI icon add-constructive.svg Support per nom. Louis Waweru Talk  16:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. This would kinda make sense if Star (Murk album) were an incomplete dab, but it isn't. CLYDE  FRANKLIN  02:29, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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Univeristy of Klausenburg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Univeristy of Klausenburg → Franz Joseph University (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This name is not mentioned in the article. NotReallySoroka (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: The nomination was for no mention at the target, however the discussion has brought out the typo aspect as well. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay   17:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The typo makes it unlikely, but "Klausenburg" is German for Kolozsvár/Cluj-Napoca. —Kusma (talk) 20:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Franz Joseph University was founded as the Hungarian Royal University of Klausenberg (or Hungarian Royal University of Kolozsvár) in what is now is now Cluj-Napoca, Romania. The redirect University of Klausenburg is used in Arnold Müller and Josef von Fodor. This form with its typo does not seem very useful though. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:06, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete as the typo is implausible. Just 27 pageviews since its creation. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:29, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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This is extremely dangerous to our democracy
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Intelligible reason to do anything other than keep cannot be gleaned. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:08, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * This is extremely dangerous to our democracy → Sinclair Broadcast Group (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think redirect is supposed to be used to make statement. C933103 (talk) 16:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: One of the heavily criticized quotes from the promo was "This is extremely dangerous to our democracy", so it's not an unreasonable search term. The quote is mentioned in the section in the article. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Vacuous water
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:52, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Vacuous water → Dry water (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another nonsensical redirect based on a GPT2 subreddit. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 15:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete clearly not a real search term or something anyone would ever use. Skynxnex (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not a likely search term, can't find any sources about it. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * QuestionIs that subreddit a bunch of bots talking to each other, that occasionally they make articles here? Louis Waweru  Talk  23:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No, they seem to be link to Wikipedia sometimes, and since GPT2 does not do fact-checking, the resulting links often go to nonexistent articles. StrexcorpEmployee is trying to fill them in. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Bocche (Locality)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:54, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Bocche (Locality)">Bocche (Locality) → Geography of Santa Margherita Ligure (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bocche → Geography of Santa Margherita Ligure (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 23 (the target redirect was moved to these two titles during the pendency of the RfD) * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 15:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as regardless of if this place exists it is not mentioned at the target and the target section doesn't exist. Possibly Bocche could be retargeted to Bocce as a plausible misspelling but this might cause confusion as apparently it is Italian for "mouths". A7V2 (talk) 01:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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ULEZ
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ultra Low Emission Zone. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * ULEZ → Ulez (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should be retargeted back to Ultra Low Emission Zone as it is the only ULEZ on Ulez that is in all-caps. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom with a hatnote to Ulez. A7V2 (talk) 01:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:CHG
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Windows SChannel
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Mark Taylor (television)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 07:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mark Taylor (television)">Mark Taylor (television) → Mark Taylor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear how this redirect refers to any topic on its target disambiguation page. (Heck, I apparently didn't even think it represented the article I moved from this title; maybe there was a topic at the disambiguation page back in 2020 ... not sure, but if there was, it doesn't seem like it is there anymore.) Steel1943  (talk) 04:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay   04:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Firstly it's a so we should not just casually delete the redirect. Secondly, it seems a not-implausible search term for Mark Taylor (animation director) (the article this was the original title of), Mark Taylor (Canadian actor), Mark L. Taylor, Mark Taylor (Home Improvement) and Mark Taylor (cricketer) who have all had some notable involvement with television. Thryduulf (talk) 10:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Describes several Mark Taylors. Louis Waweru Talk  09:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Touching oneself
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 06:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Touching oneself → Masturbation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Excessively vague redirect created by a user with several problematic redirects. However, this one does not appear to be derived from the GPT2 reddit. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep it certainly is used that way. And from the Divinyls song, "I Touch Myself" using similar terminology. Or the minced oath insult "Go touch yourself!" and other similar forms out there in the wild. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 05:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per IP. Perfectly plausible search term. Similar to Playing with oneself which also targets the same article. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. I suspect it probably is appropriate language in some contexts where the target word is not. The phrase may be learned before the topic word, and be looked up as such. Louis Waweru Talk  09:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as the most common use of this phrase. Glades12 (talk) 19:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Cereal eating by humans
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N (math)
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Frig (word)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  almost all to Fuck and retarget Frigs to FRIGS. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Frig (word)">Frig (word) → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Frig (interjection)">Frig (interjection) → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frigged → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Friggin → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Friggin' → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frigging → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Frigs → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Well, here we are again about 7 years later. Please refer to the old discussion from 2015 for the details. Since then, Frig (interjection) was moved to Frig (word), then in 2020, Frig (word) was redirected to Minced oath as a result of Articles for deletion/Frig (word). (It has been over two years, and no merge ever occurred, apparently.) And since then, the creator of the aforementioned article, as well as most of these redirects, was blocked and given their own WP:CSD that was active for a few years: WP:X1. My rationale for deleting these is the same as it was back in 2015: These are examples of minced oaths, not the alternative names for the subject "minced oaths". And as it was last time, these redirects are not even mentioned in the target article. (Also, for precedence, on Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 4, there are several other redirects to Minced oath I nominated that day that were either deleted or retargeted to a page unrelated to Minced oath.) Steel1943  (talk) 23:51, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I did not include Frigger from the previous nomination since it has a different, and apparently plausible, target. Steel1943  (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay   03:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Frigs can be redirected to FRIGS. Or should FRIGS be moved to Frigs? Peter James (talk) 14:33, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget all except Frigs to Fuck, a more directly relevant topic. Frigs may be retargeted to FRIGS per Peter James. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget per Mellohi. Fuck does a much better job at explaining these words and their meaning. For Frigs, the sources at FRIGS demonstrate that it's very often written with lowercase letters, so I think the band edges out the minced oath in that case. Add a hatnote at the band if Frigs ends up being targeted there, though. Glades12 (talk) 17:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Xavier Alexander Musk
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Xavier Alexander Musk → Elon Musk (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Former name of Musk's daughter not mentioned at the target. Delete unless consensus changes to include mention of her former name. signed,Rosguill talk 19:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)


 * What is the protocol on Wikipedia for including that kind of information? I would not want to accidentally commit "deadnaming" if I were to try and include her former name. QRep2020 (talk) 20:19, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay   03:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The individual in question is mentioned in the text, though not by name. Unless there's a policy I'm unaware of, redirecting from a former name of a transgender individual seems fine (e.g. Bruce Jenner redirects to Caitlyn Jenner). Either her current or former name both seem like plausible search terms to me. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. I have not done much editing in this topic but I think probably delete per former name per WP:DEADNAME: If a living transgender or non-binary person was not notable under a former name (a deadname), it should not be included in any page (including lists, redirects, ...) (bold mine). I believe, unlike Jenner, that Musk's daughter in question was notable under their former/deadname and I'm not sure it's notable now since enough RS are not including it? Skynxnex (talk) 02:07, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * What makes the new name notable though, if I may, is the fact that she used to "be" a Musk but now not only has adopted a new surname but has stated she wants nothing to do with her father and whatever is associated with being a Musk. As for the privacy concerns, every single article about the matter I have come across features both names, and there are a lot of them as one would expect. QRep2020 (talk) 08:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if she/her new name is notable or not but this is about her deadname. Redirects of non-notable things to aid searches are definitely done, but WP:DEADNAME seems to disallow that for non-notable deadnames. But this definitely seems like an edge case not directly fitting the examples given of either a famous person who was famous and changed their name and are still famous (Jenner) or someone who was unknown, changed their name, and then got notable (Rachel Levine). Skynxnex (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I only bring up the new name because it also has a redirect that has not been flagged, but no doubt the issue is a complex one. QRep2020 (talk) 08:25, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not here to spread rumors or fallacies, but I do recall seeing somewhere on reddit's Wikipedia sub that a person did not want their name on their father's article and wanted to know the process of removing it, so let's hypothetically put her in this category and delete as someone who does not want to be publicly associated with their father on Wikipedia and just delete this unnecessary redirect entirely. Trillfendi (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * On the one hand, this name has been reported in a few reliable sources. However, MOS:DEADNAME is unusual in that it does not say to defer to usage in reliable sources (largely, I think, because some RSes have not always been responsible, with respect to individuals' privacy in dignity, in the way in which they report deadnames). Was she notable under this name? No. Thus the redirect should be deleted. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Changing my vote to delete per above discussion. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:DEADNAME kind of dictates we delete it, even in the face of a couple of good arguments to keep. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 22:19, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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1922 film & 2002 film & 2012 film
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 4%231922 film & 2002 film & 2012 film

Fudge (euphemism)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fuck.  Jay  Diversity icon green.svg 06:19, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Fudge (euphemism)">Fudge (euphemism) → Minced oath (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

In the previous nomination from 2020, this redirect was retargeted to Minced oath since the redirect was mentioned at the aforementioned article; it is no longer mentioned. As it stands, the redirect is misleading since it is an example of a minced oath, but not an alternative name for the subject "minced oath". Steel1943 (talk) 00:07, 21 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck, which both mentions the word and is a more relevant place anyhow. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:59, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget. Reader can learn about minced oaths from the retarget, but may not gain clarity from current destination. Louis Waweru Talk  10:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete There is a Fudge( disambiguation) page already which mentions it and is reached from Fudge.. Who the fudge is going to type Fudge (euphemism)? Wikipedia i not a dictionary, much less urban dictionary. NadVolum (talk) 12:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)