Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 8

July 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 8, 2022.

Abe government
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Abe Cabinet. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Abe government → Shinzo Abe (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could this not also refer to the government of Abraham Lincoln? TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep It's a surname for Shinzo Abe, and easily understood as that; it would get messy if we had to refer to multiple American things as a "John government" or "George government", and we tend to suffix "(President's surname) administration" instead.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:41, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Abe Cabinet per 61.239.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep commonly used in the news of the period. Mathglot (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per above and also to avoid systemic bias. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Abe Cabinet, which covers the various times that either Shinzo Abe or Nobuyuki Abe formed a government. Compare and . No WP:RS use this phrase to refer to Abraham Lincoln's government (1800s Google Books hits are almost OCR errors (save one mention of "Honest Abe's government", for which "Abe government" is barely even a WP:PTM; 1900s hits are about Nobuyuki  except for one about Abe Masahiro; and 2000s hits are about Shinzo ) and thus it should not be added to the Abe Cabinet dab page. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 06:00, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Abe Cabinet as this lists Shinzo Abe's governments (plus one other which probably isn't a primary topic but no harm comes from having it there obviously...). I do wonder if something should be added to that page though to mention that they are related to Shinzo Abe since he is not actually mentioned anywhere in that page? A7V2 (talk) 06:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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The Number
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Number (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The Number → Number (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is more than one number. TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:17, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed. One day, disk space permitting, we may have a list of them all.  Until then, we could create a dab listing The Number (book) and The Number (film). Certes (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * 'Retarget' to Number (disambiguation) -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Number (disambiguation) where the uses mentioned above are disambiguated, as R from ambiguous term. Create The Number (disambiguation) as a redirect to the same as R from disambiguation. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:25, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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Historic Mount Vernon
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Historic Mount Vernon → Mount Vernon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Why would someone add the word "historic" in front of this? TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Mount Vernon Ladies Association often refers to the estate as "Historic Mount Vernon" and it has some traction outside of them . It seems like a few localities/neighborhoods sometimes use that term but most with historic as a modifier and not a name. So I think this is a potentially useful search helper. Skynxnex (talk) 02:09, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The "historic" one is the one that isn't in illinois, or Indiana, Texas, Ohio, New York, Iowa, or Washington state. Mathglot (talk) 06:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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The First Dog
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%23The First Dog

Paris Hilton's Dog
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Paris Hilton's Dog → Paris Hilton (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't understand why someone would search this? TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Apparently Hilton is known for her love of small dogs, so it seems like a reasonable search term, even if the capitalisation is a bit off. Certes (talk) 21:55, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep: It's a harmless CHEAP redirect. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 02:36, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as one of her dogs has been decently documented in the target section. It's effectively serving the same role as an R from relative. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:56, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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User:Ganeshk/sandbox/CSVTest/banana
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . WP:CSK and WP:CSK: No (accurate) reason was provided to delete this userspace redirect. Was called "vandalism" by the nominator, but it doesn't seem to be vandalism, leaving no rationales remaining. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="User:Ganeshk/sandbox/CSVTest/banana">User:Ganeshk/sandbox/CSVTest/banana → Banana (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems like it was vandalism, but was then redirected to Banana by another user. Pretty harmless, but maybe it should be deleted? TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely not vandalism. Definitely shouldn't have been redirected. Definitely should not have been brought to RfD.  J947  † edits 22:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Well J947 summed it up well. Honestly? its in a sysop's userspace (and a sandbox subpage at that) and if they really cared that much, they'd have dealt with it years ago. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  05:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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Apfelbäume
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 16%23Apfelbäume

Calle Ocho
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Calle Ocho → Tamiami Trail (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Calle Ocho (8th St in Miami) is not really part of the Tamiami Trail, it was already there when the highway was built. And the terms is mostly associated with Miami's large Cuban-American community. A better target would probably be Little Havana or Calle Ocho Festival Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC) "It becomes Southwest 8th Street in Miami-Dade County, famous as Calle Ocho in the Little Havana section of Miami (and site of the eponymous annual festival), before ending east of Miami Avenue as Southeast 8th Street at Brickell Avenue in Brickell, Downtown Miami." — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Grid (talk • contribs) 17:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Street redirects generally should describe the road it's a part of, and it became a part of Tamiami Trail when it was built. I see no issue with the redirect as-is as mention of Little Havana is already in the lede, and I can easily add the festival in there.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep 8th Street is part of US 41 in which Tamiami Trail is the section between Tampa and Miami. The lede of the article notes your exact concern:
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Complex algebra
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93 FM
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Two separate disambiguation pages are to be created: 93 FM over the original redirect and 93.0 FM on its own. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * 93 FM → Kol Chai (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are a lot of 93.0 FMs, so I don't see the point of linking specifically to this station. Iseult  Δx parlez moi 09:27, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:28, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Create 93.0 FM as a WP:SETINDEX and retarget there. (If no one else does, I'll start a draft in the next couple of days.) Compare e.g. and . 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment drafted at Draft:93.0 FM -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 05:10, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. If necessary re-create in future to 93.0 FM. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Setindexify (drafted below the RfD) stations that identify as 93 on the FM dial are frequently not located at "93.0MHz" since "93" is a marketing exercise -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 04:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Setindexify at 93.0 FM and retarget this redirect there as R from less specific name. Draft:93.0 FM seems more extensive than the draft underneath the redirect, but reconcile the two versions.? Mdewman6 (talk) 19:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Setindexify with the draft below the redirect per my comment below. What becomes of Draft:93.0 FM and 93.0 FM is a separate question. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: The two very different disambiguation page drafts need to be reconciled somehow. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:41, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft underneath at 93 FM and the draft at DRAFT:93.0 FM are two different topics. "93 FM" is a page listing radio stations advertising as 93 on the FM dial, while "93.0 FM" is for radio stations that actually occupy 93.0MHz. There are many stations that do not reside at exactly 93.0MHz but which advertise that they are 93 on the dial, and for which, you can usually have reception at 93 on the dial. (such as 92.9 or 93.1). An entry at 93 FM for 93.0 FM would interlink the two. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment there is no need to reconcile the two different SIA pages. They can exist as they are and all that is needed is to interlink the two pages, with a see also to each other. The two different SIA pages represent two different topics, one "radio stations representing themselves as 93 on the FM dial" existing at 93 FM (which do not necessarily broadcast at 93.0MHz, but also broadcast at similar frequencies, such as 92.9MHz and 93.1MHz), and the second "FM radio stations broadcasting at 93.0MHz" which exists at DRAFT: 93.0 FM . -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I see, you want set indexes at both 93 FM and 93.0 FM. So Draft:93.0 FM is really a separate issue, and a lot of confusion was created by the one IP creating both a draft in response to another IP's comment and then drafting a separate set index to replace the redirect. I have revised my comment above. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That said, there is the existing precedent of 95 FM and 97 FM simply being redirects to 95.0 FM and 97.0 FM, respectively, rather than being separate SIAs. Going forward, all of these should be treated analogously. If we end up with a setindex at 93 FM, we should strive to create SIAs over the other analogous redirects. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
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Old Apple
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Old Apple → History of Apple Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, similar rationale as in the discussion of New Apple, below. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:35, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment This along with the other redirect likely represents the transition between Apple Computer and Apple Inc. when during the second tenure of Steve Jobs, the company transitioned from being a computer company to being a personal electronics and entertainment distribution company, with the introduction of the iPod. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I see no utility in the redirects "Old Apple" and "New Apple" though. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete A term that isn't really defined. – The Grid  ( talk )  17:45, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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2022−23 ACF Fiorentina season
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%232022−23 ACF Fiorentina season

Nelly
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 * The result of the discussion was Wrong venue  . Please refer to WP:RM for requesting page moves, or to WP:AFC/R for requesting redirects. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Nelly (singer)">Nelly (singer) → Nelly (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Also, move this page to Nelly (rapper) and discuss. 2600:6C40:5400:766:9CFE:FC96:826:4606 (talk) 11:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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Ukrainian Separatist War
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Ukrainian Separatist War → War in Donbas (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete not used so much. In any case current redirect to a page War in Donbas is inappropriate. Ukrainian Civil War as a target would make more sense, but I prefer removal. BlackBony (talk) 07:17, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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💃🏻
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Nominator admitted their rationale was mistaken and requested early closure. Only vote here is a keep. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:27, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="💃🏻">💃🏻 → Dance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It says on the redirect page (which uses Template:R from emoji): "Do not use it for multiple-character emoji sequences, such as skin tone variants or national flags". AKK 700  06:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Mobile devices often allow emojis with skin tone variants to be typed with a specified skin tone. There is no precedent to delete these redirects. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * To be clear, the R from emoji template says . Omitting the first sentence is misleading, User:AKK-700. - Eureka Lott 13:35, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I misread the second sentence; at first I thought it meant to not create redirects with multiple emoji sequences. Should we close this one early? AKK  700  14:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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Blackmerican
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Blackmerican → African Americans (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is not a term that is used, as far as I can tell. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, does look to be an actual term. It was apparently coined in the episode Subway Hero, but the GA on it does not mention the term. Probably best to delete.  J947  † edits 21:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, a short google search supports what J947 said. Rsk6400 (talk) 09:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as neologism per above editors' findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * For some reason, it received traffic between June 2019 and June 2020. There may have been an incoming link from another article. Jay (talk) 04:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Cisgender sexuality
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%23Cisgender sexuality

Chi-Beria
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Early 2014 North American cold wave. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Chi-Beria → Chicago (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems to refer to some sort of vortex? TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:36, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Early 2014 North American cold wave to align this with Chiberia. The latter term is discussed at the article on the cold wave. - Eureka Lott 16:47, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Early 2014 North American cold wave where a variant of the term (Chiberia) is discussed -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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Yamagato Fellowship
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Yamagato Fellowship → Hero (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not sure what this means? TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:34, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fictional organization from Heroes (American TV series) with no nontrivial description anywhere. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No particular preference between delete and retarget to Heroes Evolutions. Jay (talk) 04:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Heavies
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Heavies → Villain (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could refer to anything that is heavy. Not unambiguous. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Heavy ― Tartan357  Talk 05:16, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Create a new disambiguation page for heavies that can be pluralized, like heavy cavalry, heavy cruiser, heavy artillery, villains, which are called "heavies" in the plural. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 06:41, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of a disambiguation page for this. TraderCharlotte (talk) 21:03, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per IP and nom above. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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'67
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to 67. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:37, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * '67 → 1967 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could also refer to 2067, 1867, 1767, etc. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom, to the ones that are actually so referred (1867, 1967, 2067) and add a link to 67 (disambiguation) and add anything else that uses "'67" -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 06:43, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguation page at 67, which already covers this ambiguity. Some similar redirects (like '69) already do this, but others (like '68) do not. - Eureka Lott 13:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget: to DAB per Eureka Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  05:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to 67 dab page per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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Shōwa 41
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%23Shōwa 41

P0rn
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * P0rn → Pornography (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Why would someone type this with a zero? TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Stats suggest it is used. Alternate spellings of profane words are common on the internet, as attempts to evade filters. ― Tartan357  Talk 05:12, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a common spelling. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 06:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per ab0ve. In additi0n t0 this particular spelling's use t0 evade filters, the key is just ab0ve the  0ne. S0me0ne might type in a 0 by accidents. Regards,  S0NIC   678   15:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Common self-censoring term.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment redirects to Leet.   isn't mentioned there but may be considered a variant.  Would someone typing P0rn be seeking the w0rd or the genre?  (I naively assume that they seek material of a type available on Wikipedia.)  Certes (talk) 13:54, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The likelihood of a typo is also non-trivial, since the [0] is next to the [O], so the current target "pornography" seems better -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 12:02, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep a common and cheeky way of avoiding profanity filters -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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Pornog
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 03:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Pornog → Pornography (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely abbreviation. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:25, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not clear without knowing the target what this is supposed to refer to. ― Tartan357  Talk 05:15, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It seems to be a format issue according to my Google Search, like pornog--graphy. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:53, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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Mr. Gates
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gates (surname). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Mr. Gates → Bill Gates (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This isn't the only notable "Mr. Gates". TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gates (surname) ― Tartan357  Talk 03:25, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the surname article -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 06:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gates (surname) per above. There are dozens of notable Mr. Gateses in the world with articles, like Bill Gates Sr., Horatio Gates, and of course, Bill Gates. It doesn't make sense to target it to one specific person. Regards, SONIC   678   15:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I was a stupid moron in 2007 who made many pointless redirects, I thought I already took care of speedy deleting all of them, but apparently I didn't. No one ever calls Bill Gates Mr. Gates, so yeah I was a moron back then, what else can I say? I just hope that one day this will all be done and over with and I'll stop getting notifications for redirects for deletion on stupid redirects I made back then. I don't even like this site anymore. Blaze The Movie Fan (talk) 22:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the surname article. Use of the prefix makes it clear this is a reference to a surname. BD2412  T 21:46, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gates (surname) per above. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. Plausible search term, ambiguous target. Fieari (talk) 05:04, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Eating children
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Child cannibalism. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:22, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Eating children → Blood libel (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Surely this can't only refer to this? TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:19, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Human cannibalism, which is more directly relevant to this generic redirect. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:18, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Child cannibalism, seems to be the obvious choice. Hzh (talk) 11:30, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Child cannibalism per Hzh. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Child cannibalism per Hzh above. Plausible search term. I wonder if a Eating babies redirect to the same target should also be created... Fieari (talk) 05:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Китай
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%23Китай

2009 attempted defection of 5 Virginians
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 15%232009 attempted defection of 5 Virginians

Honey pig
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 03:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Honey pig → Bear (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is Welsh for bear, but it doesn't seem likely that someone would search this. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - we don't accommodate random literal translations. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely search term. It seems to be the same of several restaurants as well according to Google search. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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New Apple
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 03:44, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * New Apple → Apple Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what this means, but it doesn't seem like a plausible search term. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:07, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment This along with the other redirect likely represents the transition between Apple Computer and Apple Inc. when during the second tenure of Steve Jobs, the company transitioned from being a computer company to being a personal electronics and entertainment distribution company, with the introduction of the iPod. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:50, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I see no utility in the redirects "Old Apple" and "New Apple" though. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:50, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete – A transient term used colloquially during a brief period of time decades ago. And that's being generous. Anyone looking for Apple Inc. is going to search for Apple, not these other words, which take historical research to even know what they mean. <span style="font-family:Futura,'Century Gothic','Trebuchet MS',serif;"><b style="color:#1974D2;">Senator2029</b> <b style="color:#1974D2;">【talk】</b> 17:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete A term that isn't really defined. – The Grid  ( talk )  17:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obsolete obscure term that is no longer used anywhere by anyone. Fieari (talk) 05:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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The fox Street Journal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:52, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The fox Street Journal → The Wall Street Journal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't understand this? TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: It's a reference to Rupert Murdoch running both. But not at all useful as a redirect, as evidenced by stats. ― Tartan357  Talk 05:22, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is the result of a page move vandalism from 2007. Jay (talk) 03:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Gamestop Corp Class A
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Gamestop Corp Class A → GameStop (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This appears to refer to a specific class of stock shares for Gamestop; every public corporation has classes of shares, but we don't need additional redirects for these. Maybe it's appropriate for Gamestop, because of the past history relating to it's stock, but I'm not sure. TraderCharlotte (talk) 03:02, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Actually very few companies have more than one class of shares, and this specific class is mentioned both in the infobox and the template at the bottom of the article. Previous RfD discussion has kept other companies' share class redirects when the infobox condition is met. 15,800 Google results for this exact phrase suggest it is a plausible search term. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per United Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  05:11, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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🫠
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 08:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="🫠">🫠 → Melting (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

My computer can't even render this one, but based on the other alchemical redirects created by this editor (see below), I imagine that it is likely an alchemical sign. Delete unless evidence can be found that this sign unambiguously refers to melting. signed,Rosguill talk 18:22, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Rosguill According to a google search this emoji is a "melting face". 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction, I see it here as well. I guess it's relatively unambiguous, but it still doesn't seem particularly useful to readers and would lean towards deletion, redirecting to Emoji, or redirecting to a unicode block. signed,Rosguill talk 18:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I would agree that deletion is probably the best outcome per WP:REMOJI. "someone's face melting" is not an actual encyclopaedic topic and it's rather ambiguous, the current target isn't really a good fit, I imagine most people would use it to refer to warm weather, hyperthermia or something similar. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. This looks like a good fit. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Don't keep. How does a "melting face" emoji relate to the physical process of melting? Faces are not literally undergoing a change in state from solid to liquid. Seems like an inappropriate target to me. Delete or retarget. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The emoji is showing a representation of a face undergoing a change in state from solid to liquid as if it were an ice cube. I mean, there's a puddle around the partially-melted face... -- Tavix  ( talk ) 11:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * And someone would be seeking the content at Melting by using this emoji? It's only mainspace links are from articles about Emojis. Based on the external links, it is being used figuratively, to suggest someone is hot, or some other feeling, not the literal physical process. In terms of actual processes, could possibly also mean Dissolution. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Taking the examples of past Rfds linked at WP:REMOJI, we keep redirects from emojis for which there is an article about the specific thing depicted by the emoji, and otherwise we tend toward deletion. We do not have an article on Face melting or Melting face or similar (nor should we be expected to). Mdewman6 (talk) 23:54, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The emoji is a melting face emoji so Melting seems like a good target. If a better one is proposed, please ping me. Regardless of target, emoji redirects should be deleted. Worst case, redirect to Emoji or to the specific block. Gonnym (talk) 14:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't follow the reasoning for never be deleted. I've seen several editors assert this, but it's not clear to me why this should be the case. signed,Rosguill talk 23:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - inherently foolish, if we start looking things up by emojiis I don't want to live on this planet any more. --Wtshymanski (talk) 22:01, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The idea isn't to look up articles by emojis, but to look up emojis by themselves – an unfamiliar/unrenderable emoji is not an implausible search term. --ais523
 * Delete. Too ambiguous to merit redirecting.  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 22:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix and Gonnym. I also think that Melting is a good target for this emoji, and contrary to what both editors above have stated, I don't see any problem with keeping this as long as it redirects to the current target. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: WP:INVOLVED relist for closing the June 24th log page, and for possibly gaining some input on the late retargeting suggestion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:30, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A. It's included there, and the references provide a better explanation than our article about Melting does. Peter James (talk) 17:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete Useless, silly redirect, keep arguments are uterlly uncompelling. --Beeblebrox (talk) 04:14, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete melting faces should not redirect to melting, as it is not representative -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 06:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A. It's useful to be able to use Wikipedia to look up characters that your computer can't render, in order to get an idea of what they mean, and usefulness is one of the main criteria to keep a redirect. It's also worth noting two RfDs about very similar emoji redirects, which are currently ongoing – it would make sense for our decision here to be consistent with our decision there. --ais523 09:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A per the excellent logic above. The current target is not a good one. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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