Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 28

June 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 28, 2022.

Robert B. Cheney
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Tagging as R from sibling will fix the confusion about the error. Verifying the middle initial is a separate activity.  Jay (talk) 03:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Robert B. Cheney → Dick Cheney (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Appears to be an error. Hog Farm Talk 23:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Richard Cheney not Robert Cheney. Nice catch. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC) . Neutral. If the commentary is re-added about Cheney's brother, then Keep. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment this is probably supposed to be a R from sibling, not a R from alternative name; Dick has a younger brother named Bob, who does not appear to be notable himself: Cheney’s younger brother, Bob, is a civil servant, too, now retired from the Bureau of Land Management. The brother was mentioned back in 2006 when this redirect was created, but is not anymore. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have attempted to readd the mention of Bob. I assume it was removed earlier due to dubious sourcing (the source near that sentence was a primary source), but now I've sourced with the New Yorker article instead. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. However I'm not having much luck verifying that Bob's middle initial is actually "B." For example, the only Google hits for "Robert B Cheney" "Bureau of Land Management" are this discussion and some Facebook scraper. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 09:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep but readd the mention of Bob Cheney to Dick Cheney's page. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 12:15, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Optics letters.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Optics letters. → Optics Letters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It seems implausible a user would type "Optic letters." with a period while searching for Optics Letters, therefore I recommend delete TartarTorte 21:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  00:27, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as completely useless. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 12:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. per nom and above. This. is just search bar clutter. Regards, SONIC   678.   17:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Bhagavath Singh
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 6%23Bhagavath Singh

Samuel-034
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Assumed to be unopposed. The original contributors to the target list didn't consider the content significant enough for merge, and no update was made on this to the target since the nomination was made.  Jay (talk) 15:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Samuel-034 → List of Halo characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not included in the list of characters and not mentioned anywhere else on the site. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: See relevant discussion Talk:List of Halo characters/Archive 2. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:59, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely add Samuel-034 to the list of characters. It seems the reason why it wasn't their on the first place it's because there was a stand alone article for Samuel-034 on the site and was taken down with the order of merging it with the List of Halo characters what the latter was never done. ImAbetastico (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It wasn't merged because the regular contributors to the "list of halo characters" article decided the content in the page history wasn't worth merging, see The discussion here. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 20:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Dumbest Member of Congress
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:07, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Dumbest Member of Congress → William L. Scott (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article says Scott was characterized as such by the NYT in 1974. I don't know it the NYT 10 dumbest list continued in subsequent years, but I would expect this redirect to take me to something more contemporary. Delete. MB 04:42, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * New Times (magazine), not the New York Times! Easy mistake to make. No opinion on the merits of this redirect, but more information can be found through searches and the linked page.  J947  † edits 05:09, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  06:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If you look at the source, its not that he just happened to be on top of a regular poll one time, its that he was overwhelmingly considered such by other members of congress and the media. Similar to Dana Rohrabachers nickname as "Russia's Favorite Congressman". So the redirect is for a nickname specific to one person, not the name of a regular poll. Theres a bit more context in the article of the person who wrote that one-off poll for the New Times. There is no other article on Wikipedia mentioning the same phrase, so I think the redirect is fairly unambiguous. jonas (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 04:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: While this was a moniker applied to him, at this point there is no consensus on who it is. While this is the only instance of the term on wikipedia, it does not necessarily make it an appropriate redirect and with a member of congress who has not remained particularly significant after his term, it seems to approach WP:SURPRISE even if there is appropriate rationale behind it. If it is kept, I highly recommend it be protected because this has incredibly high potential for vandalism as a redirect. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete I highly doubt that someone using this a search term is doing so to look up someone that was referred as such in a single source almost 50 years ago and I can’t think of a more suitable target.--70.24.251.91 (talk) 23:49, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Euphoria
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Even though consensus is not entirely unanimous, all three participants do support the creation of a template disambiguation. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:Euphoria → Template:Euphoria (American TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Current redirect is not main topic ★Trekker (talk) 17:42, 11 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 03:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. There are indeed at least three templates that this title can refer to, but ambiguity like this can be resolved by pages even in template space. The precedents for that along with the long (and confusing) edit history make a disambig page seem like the best option to me. I've drafted one already. Glades12 (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Keep or disambiguate - Keep, or disambiguate per Glades12. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Template disambiguation is really only necessary for templates that are used often. These navboxes are used at max, once on a page, and on a very limited number of pages. If not delete, then support disambiguation. Gonnym (talk) 07:22, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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Grounded videos
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Internet Explorer 12
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Internet Explorer 12 → Microsoft Edge (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this redirect page is wrong. Is Internet Explorer 12 called 'Microsoft Edge'? Microsoft Edge is a Chromium browser and Internet Explorer is a HTML browser. So, Internet Explorer and Microsoft Edge are very different browser. So, it needs to delete. Hajoon0102 💬 08:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: There is no browser called Internet Explorer 12. –– FormalDude  talk  14:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Internet Explorer 12 simply did not exist. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, no such version exists. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Because it matters, I oppose Jay's retarget suggestion because that section offers no information on IE12. That may be a useful section if it were to, hypothetically, explain that IE12 was in development before being scrapped in favor of Edge, or something of the sort, but that is not the case. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:04, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I found many articles (including the one cited at Microsoft Edge) that said that the community expected "Spartan" to be the codename for Internet Explorer 12. While I can add this mention there, it would just be WP:POINTY as MS officially did not make a mention. I have notified of this RfD at the Edge's talk page in case someone thinks it's worth a mention. Jay (talk) 06:31, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * At Microsoft Edge, it's clear that from the very beginning "Spartan" was reported as a new product separate from Internet Explorer. If there were reputable reports suggesting that "Spartan" was actually the codename for IE12, than sure, feel free to add it. But if it's coming from an unnamed "community", that's trivia akin to the ubiquitous tech-related rumors and whispers that end up not panning out. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:37, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I had closed this discussion as delete, but was requested to reopen it and relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 03:00, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Internet Explorer. The History section at that page has sub-sections sequentially from IE1 to IE11 and End of life following it. Readers looking for the successor of Internet Explorer 11 will get the answer they are looking for. Jay (talk) 09:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Targeting it to Edge is false advertising. Edge is not IE. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and we do not know if there will ever be an IE 12 or not, so it should be deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete: The first public release of Microsoft Edge used version 12.10240 of the EdgeHTML rendering engine (see Microsoft Edge), and was numbered as such as Edge is the spiritual successor of Internet Explorer. As such, the current redirect isn't necessarily inaccurate... but it is likely unnecessary. JPG-GR (talk) 23:27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete I note Tavix's rebuttal and agree with it. Happy Editing-- IAm  Chaos  00:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Benjamin Daniel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 02:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Neither is mentioned in the target, nor seems worth mentioning. Suggest deletion of Benjamin Daniel to free up the name for the sailor. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Benjamin Daniel → Channel Awesome (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Benzaie → Channel Awesome (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete both per nom, move Benjamin Daniel (sailor) to Benjamin Daniel by default. It appears Benjamin Daniel has not been mentioned at the target or elsewhere on enwike for quite some time, and a google search brings up many non-notable people with this name. Benzaie appears to be his Twitter handle. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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