Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 7

June 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 7, 2022.

Z Street
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Street name.  Jay (talk) 08:16, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Z Street → Street or road name (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

delete as the original target is now a redirect to street name, which is a general discussion with nothing on this particular street name. Mangoe (talk) 16:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 19:51, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - the current target wasn't really redirected to street name, this was part of a move of the original target due to a RM discussion (see Talk:Street name). The section discussing/mentioning Z Street doesn't look like it changed as part of this move, and is currently at Street name, so if kept it should be retargeted there. No opinion on whether this should be deleted or retargeted though. A7V2 (talk) 03:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep (but fix double redirect). Currently this is a double redirect, but targets the section mentioned by A7V2 as a R to anchor. Redirecting here was the consensus at Articles_for_deletion/Z_Street and I don't think the situation has changed appreciably since that consensus was formed. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Is Love Supposed to Hurt Like This?
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:08, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Is Love Supposed to Hurt Like This? → Staydom (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned on target now or at the time of creation. Cannot find a suitable target to redirect to. If there is a suitable target I'd have no objection to saving. Richhoncho (talk) 11:57, 31 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 19:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It was mentioned in the article. It is a literal translation of the Korean title of the song "사랑은 원래 이렇게 아픈 건가요", which was given the English title of "Love Fool". Some sources on the Internet (perhaps not too reliable, but they are out there) provide this as the translation of the Korean title.  Ss  112   12:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Ss112 and tag with R from alternative transliteration. I find a couple of websites with this translation. Jay (talk) 08:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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File:Kazhugu.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:08, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * [[File:Kazhugu.jpg]] → File:Kazhugu 1981 poster.jpg (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apart from helping differentiate from Kazhugu (2012 film), I think it should be deleted per G7. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  10:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT, the title does not fall under one of the criteria for deletion, after 8 years at this title there are going to be a lot of historic uses. Ambiguity on its own is not justification to delete a redirect in file space. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NFCC WP:GALLERY Wikipedia should not violate copyright laws by serving non-free content to off-site uses as an image server. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep per the IP. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:PEER
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Peer review. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * PEER → Wikipedia:WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Peer review since PR is the primary topic. Mislinks to the WikiProject page can be seen at Talk:Main Page/Archive 61, Talk:Reverend Gary Davis, and Talk:Jamaica College. Thanks! NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Retarget per nom, looks like a better target. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or at worst Disambiguate due to a significant amount of incoming links (150+) which seem to overwhelmingly intended to target the peerage wikiproject. From a spot check mislinks seem to be only a small portion of current uses. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 19:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget Its a low link count, but since its been around since 2006, I might suggest a hat? Although there are so many hats already over there. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:26, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Horse racer
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to jockey.  Consensus is against the original target (the snake); initially horse racing was suggested, but when jockey was suggested, everyone else supported it. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Horse racer → Lampropeltis getula (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term can also be used in reference to horse racing. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Two potential targets are currently being discussed. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to horse racing and add hatnote pointing to the snake article -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget with hatnote as Lenticel suggested, sounds like the best solution. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Same as above except that retarget to Jockey as the more appropriate target. Jay (talk) 02:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jockey as the article which discusses people who race horses. feminist (talk) &#124; never forget 07:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget w/hat I agree that Jockey is a better target. The Redirect is horse racer. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget - I agree that this should go to 'jockey'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Grec ancien
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 14%23Grec ancien

Loop Line ((Seoul Metropolitan Subway))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Loop Line ((Seoul Metropolitan Subway))">Loop Line ((Seoul Metropolitan Subway)) → Seoul Subway Line 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Air University ((Pakistan Air Force))">Air University ((Pakistan Air Force)) → Air University Pakistan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orma ((clan)">Orma ((clan) → Orma (clan) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Law Committee ((French National Assembly)">Law Committee ((French National Assembly) → Law Committee (French National Assembly) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brice Creek ((Trent River tributary)">Brice Creek ((Trent River tributary) → Brice Creek (Trent River tributary) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

More redirects with malformed double bracket disambiguators, delete all per WP:UNNATURAL. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:55, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all - Appears to be no real reason to keep any of these. I concur completely. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:07, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Dave Cummings ((pornographic actor))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dave Cummings ((pornographic actor))">Dave Cummings ((pornographic actor)) → Dave Cummings (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Wasp (comics))">Wasp (comics)) → Wasp (character) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yod (letter))">Yod (letter)) → Yodh (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="USS Boston (1884))">USS Boston (1884)) → USS Boston (1884) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Pakistan national field hockey team tours and matches (2000–2004))">Pakistan national field hockey team tours and matches (2000–2004)) → Pakistan national field hockey team tours and matches (2000–2004) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717))">Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)) → Thomas Fleetwood (1661–1717) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet more redirects with malformed double bracketed disambiguators, delete per WP:UNNATURAL 192.76.8.78 (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all - None of these appear useful. Agreed. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:A
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * A → Wikipedia:Attribution (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The current target is not commonly viewed. According to this, it gets an average of 9 views a day. Meanwhile, the administrators page receives a much larger 434 per day. That is 48 times the current target. I propose a retarget to WP:ADMIN.  interstate five   17:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as is. This redirect has 6500 incoming links, almost all of which appear to be intending to point to the page on attribution. Ancient project space redirects with significant usage should not be changed without very good reason. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Leave alone per IP. WP:RKEEP #4, created in '04 with many links. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Leave alone, per above. Merko (talk) 02:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Thessaloniki massacres (1821))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Thessaloniki massacres (1821))">Thessaloniki massacres (1821)) → Thessaloniki (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Lawful permanent residents (United States))">Lawful permanent residents (United States)) → Green card (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Deuce (Hollywood Undead))">Deuce (Hollywood Undead)) → Deuce (musician) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Aurora (astronomy))">Aurora (astronomy)) → Aurora (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Money Game (Famicom video game))">The Money Game (Famicom video game)) → List of Nintendo Entertainment System games (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Deep Depression ARB 03 (2011))">Deep Depression ARB 03 (2011)) → 2011 North Indian Ocean cyclone season (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Esrom (Book of Mormon))">Esrom (Book of Mormon)) → List_of_Book_of_Mormon_people (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Inter-District Championship (Fiji))">Inter-District Championship (Fiji)) → Inter-District Championship (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet more redirects with double closing brackets, delete all per WP:UNNATURAL. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete but please note, one of these, Deep Depression ARB 03 (2011)), actually had a link within an article. I have now corrected the link to just a single paren and created the correct redirect. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:42, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Tianhe Stadium (Guangzhou (Canton))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Tianhe Stadium (Guangzhou (Canton))">Tianhe Stadium (Guangzhou (Canton)) → Tianhe Stadium (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't see how this is a useful redirect. I don't see the need for the double disambiguation, I don't see how it makes sense to disambiguate the name of a city with a different form of the name of the city and I don't think that "disambiguator in a disambiguator" type constructions are likely to be linked to or searched for. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. This seems to be useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:53, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unnecessary. BD2412  T 22:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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R&B and Soul music
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="R&B and Soul music">R&B and Soul music → Rhythm and blues (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="R&B and Soul Music">R&B and Soul Music → Rhythm and blues (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY These redirects combine together Rhythm and blues and Soul music so it is unclear which one they should target. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 17:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete – it isn't needed. We have a dab for Rhythm and blues, and a dab for Soul music. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme  💬 📧 17:25, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Atsme. BD2412  T 05:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
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R et B
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * R et B → Rhythm and blues (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE. No specific affinity between Rhythm and blues and French/latin 192.76.8.78 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. I have no clear idea from which language the "et" is supposed to be from (French? Can it be a play on word with Roland Barthes ?). Veverve (talk) 17:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per et, I have found that "et" means "and" in Franco-Provençal, French, archaic forms of Italian, Latin, Middle French, Norman (Jèrriais), Old French, Picard, and Walloon. Of those, only Franco-Provençal, French, Jèrriais, Picard, and Walloon are both still spoken widely and use et in regular parlance. Interestingly, in French and most of the other languages it seems as if Rhythm and Blue despite being spelled Rhythm & Blue implying a pronunciation of Rhythm et Blues is generally pronounced as Rhythm-n-Blues to match it with the English sound. Regardless, I could find little-to-nothing in any of these languages using this term so not only is an RLOTE, it's seemingly a neologism as well. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 19:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - This simply isn't helpful, and thus it isn't worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:07, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless as this term does not exist in English nor any language for the matter, if Torte is correct. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Bône ((département)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Bône ((département)">Bône ((département) → Bône (département) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Robert Blake (dentist))">Robert Blake (dentist)) → Robert Blake (dentist) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Antena 3 (Spanish TV channel))">Antena 3 (Spanish TV channel)) → Antena 3 (Spanish TV channel) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Drama (Film and television))">Drama (Film and television)) → Drama (film and television) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="John North (Cambridge 1645-1683))">John North (Cambridge 1645-1683)) → John North (Trinity) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mary Miller (General & Artistic Director))">Mary Miller (General & Artistic Director)) → Mary Miller (artistic director) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet more redirects with misspelled/broken double braket disamiguators. Delete per WP:UNNATURAL. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 16:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete but we really need a CSD for these misbracketed disambiguations; nominating all these must get pretty tiring if you have to do it every single time you run into these! — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Marcia (wife of Marcus Ulpius Traianus (senator))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Marcia (wife of Marcus Ulpius Traianus (senator))">Marcia (wife of Marcus Ulpius Traianus (senator)) → Marcia (mother of Trajan) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term because it forms a wikipedia self reference, you need to know how wikipedia would disambiguate Marcus Ulpius Traianus for this to make any sense. Furthermore this "disambiguator in a disambiguator" construction is unlikley to be arrived at by searchers (WP:UNNATURAL) 192.76.8.78 (talk) 16:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: The disambiguator within a disambiguator does not make sense here either. If Trajan (the target of also had a wife named Marcia, then I could see the logic in it, but he was married to Pompeia Plotina and even her full name of Pompeia Plotina Claudia Phoebe Piso does not contain Marcia. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 19:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. BD2412  T 22:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We shouldn't have redirects with double disambiguators. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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List of Hannah Montana episodes (Season 3))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of Hannah Montana episodes (Season 3))">List of Hannah Montana episodes (Season 3)) → Hannah Montana (season 3) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="De La Salle School (Liverpool))">De La Salle School (Liverpool)) → De La Salle Academy, Liverpool (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Warley (Essex))">Warley (Essex)) → Warley, Essex (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Christ Church (Alexandria))">Christ Church (Alexandria)) → Christ Church (Alexandria, Virginia) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="James Bond (film character))">James Bond (film character)) → Portrayal of James Bond in film (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Linton Alexander (Dream Team))">Linton Alexander (Dream Team)) → Dream Team (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Painted Post (1928 film))">Painted Post (1928 film)) → Painted Post (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another batch of redirects with malformed, double closed bracket disambigators. Delete all per WP:UNNATURAL. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 15:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:21, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all as implausible. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Mick Lyons (footballer (soccer))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mick Lyons (footballer (soccer))">Mick Lyons (footballer (soccer)) → Mick Lyons (English footballer) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible search term. "Soccer" is not a disambiguator for "football" and the disambiguaror in a disambiguator construction is highly unlikely to be searched for (WP:UNNATURAL). Left over from reverting a 2007 era page move. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 15:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:21, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:12, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. BD2412  T 22:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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The Call (comic book series))
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Call (comic book series))">The Call (comic book series)) → The Call of Duty (comics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="North Cape (Norway))">North Cape (Norway)) → North Cape (Norway) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Guerrilla phase of the Second Chechen War (2008))">Guerrilla phase of the Second Chechen War (2008)) → Guerrilla phase of the Second Chechen War (2008) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Franklin High School (New Orleans))">Franklin High School (New Orleans)) → Benjamin Franklin High School (New Orleans) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="California(song))">California(song)) → California (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Széll Kálmán tér (Budapest Metro))">Széll Kálmán tér (Budapest Metro)) → Széll Kálmán tér metro station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Thomas Jefferson Middle School (Vancouver, Washington))">Thomas Jefferson Middle School (Vancouver, Washington)) → Vancouver Public Schools (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Operational Land Imager (OLI))">Operational Land Imager (OLI)) → Operational Land Imager (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another batch of redirects with malformed disamiguators with doubled closing brackets. Delete per WP:UNNATURAL. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 14:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 15:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. BD2412  T 22:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all as implausible. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Soul/R&B Music
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Soul/R&B Music">Soul/R&B Music → Rhythm and blues (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY. This redirect combines two genres of music together and as such it is unclear which one it should target, it could point to Rhythm and blues or Soul music. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 14:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 17:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as unhelpful ambiguous combo redirect. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Independent journalism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Independent journalism → Citizen journalism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Independent journalist → Freelancer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure if these two terms are synonymous. To add confusion to the mix, Independent journalist redirects to Freelancer. I suggest both of these should be redlinked to encourage article creation, unless there is an obvious redirect or disambiguation page I'm missing. QueenofBithynia (talk) 10:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * bundled since the nom is suggesting its deletion. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 11:30, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! QueenofBithynia (talk) 14:54, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDYES. Veverve (talk) 17:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I also feel that the general concept of being an "independent journalist" is broad enough that it needs its own page, being distinct from merely being a "freelancer" in terms of writing. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:55, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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The most remarkable formula in mathematics
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 15%23The most remarkable formula in mathematics

Czechoslovak
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 * The result of the discussion was move DAB to title  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 21:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Czechoslovak → Czechoslovakism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Divert to Czechoslovakia : The word "Czechoslovak" is a demonym for the erstwhile country. Please also see the Astronaut page where "Czechoslovak" is used to describe a person from Czechoslovakia. Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Support speedily retargeting to Czechoslovakia, the original longstanding target of the term from when I created this redirect in 2014 until a few months ago when it was changed without discussion. BD2412  T 04:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Czechoslovakia. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Move the disambiguation page at Czechoslovak (disambiguation) to this title, just like we do with other country demonym titles, e.g. Polish, American or French. A quick search sugggests that the disambiguation page could be expanded with a few other ambiguous terms too, like Czechoslovak people and Czechoslovak citizens. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 19:45, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Retarget to Czechoslovakia or move Czechoslovak (disambiguation) to this title? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, feminist (talk) &#124; never forget 07:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Support the ideal retarget would either be Czechoslovakia or Czechoslovak (disambiguation). Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 22:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB Struck - see below thank you 192..78 Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  02:58, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @IAmChaos If you agree that this title should lead to the disambiguation page then the DAB page should be moved here. When you have a redirect at "Foo" pointing to "Foo (disambiguation)" you have what is called a WP:MALPLACED disambiguation page. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 17:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. I guess my !-v is Move DAB Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  17:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Move dab per 192.76.8.78. - CRGreathouse (t | c) 14:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, as is standard practice for such fairly generic adjectives. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 07:16, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Move dab to this. Adjective could refer to any of the things listed on Czechoslovak (disambiguation). A7V2 (talk) 11:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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MacOS Mammoth
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  07:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * MacOS Mammoth → MacOS Ventura (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Draft:MacOS Mammoth → MacOS Ventura (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This was originally a page created before Apple announced macOS Ventura, under the presumption that some rumors that Apple would call the next release "macOS Mammoth" were true. The rumors turned out to be false. At some point Apple might release a "macOS Mammoth", at which point the page will become a page for that release rather than a redirect to another release. (Note that, when it was the aforementioned article, rather than a redirect, Articles for deletion/MacOS Mammoth was created, and the result of the discussion was "delete"; it might have been deleted and then replaced with a draft article that also mis-guessed the release name.) Guy Harris (talk) 05:47, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Noting that I declined A10 here because I felt there was a colorable argument that this is a valid r from incorrect name. That's not to say I definitely think it is one, just that I felt discussion was merited. I'm currently neutral. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 05:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Unnecessary redirect page -- Hajoon0102 💬 06:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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List of members of the Nebraska Legislature
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  07:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * List of members of the Nebraska Legislature → List of Nebraska state senators (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Vague target; the Nebraska Senate only became the sole chamber in 1938. For members of the defunct Nebraska House, we have Category:Members of the Nebraska House of Representatives; in any case, redirect title doesn't apply cleanly or solely to target. Iseult  Δx parlez moi 04:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and add hatnote. The Nebraska Legislature is currently synonymous with Nebraska Senate. Since we don't have any article on members of the bicameral legislature, there's no ambiguity to resolve here. But we can add, which can be turned into a link to a List of members of the Nebraska Legislature (1867–1934), if such a list is written.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:11, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and add hatnote per above - I think there's useful distinguishing information, and it's possible to convert the redirect into an article. I'll just add that I've been thinking of creating that list, but there is a lot of research to do for that peculiar time in Nebraska history ;). Urve (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep and add Tamzin's hat. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:18, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep and hatnote per Tamzin. Although perhaps someone searching this is looking for a list of current members? So a redirect to Nebraska Legislature could be reasonable also. If anything that table should probably be added to the top of List of Nebraska state senators. A7V2 (talk) 00:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Add "See Also" section to the Senators page. This way, all Senators are in a page while all Reps are in another page. Moreover, although I typically support self-refs, the Category is a poor choice for it because of its relatively low navigability. NotReallySoroka (talk) 04:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Mr. Beast
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Empire Air Training Scheme
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Empire Air Training Scheme → Australia and the Empire Air Training Scheme (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should this be retargeted to British Commonwealth Air Training Plan, of which this was an alternative name? –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. The redirect was pointing to the suggested target for some 13 years until retargeted it to the current one, around the time he was working on both targets.  Jay (talk) 09:28, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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