Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 2

March 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 2, 2022.

Do Men gossip more than Women
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Do Men gossip more than Women → Gossip (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Re-direct is nonsense and possibly sexist. Maurice Oly (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Very weak redirect to § In psychology, or delete per nom and because that is a very unlikely search term, and not answered at target. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 22:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a question, not a topic.Wiki-psyc (talk) 03:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  10:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The title is not nonsense (it's very clear what someone using it is looking for) and whether it is sexist or not is irrelevant (per WP:RNEUTRAL), but someone looking for information on this topic will not find anything relevant at the target or anywhere else on Wikipedia that I've found. The title of a couple of references used in articles that are extremely tangentially related to this term suggest that there is probably scope for a section discussing gender differences in gossiping behaviour and/or stereotypes and this title would not be an inappropriate redirect to that, but as it stands there is no suitable target that exists. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Thryduulf. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and above. The redirect speaks for itself. XtraJovial (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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One Minute Closer to Death
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23One Minute Closer to Death

Mossy Land
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Mossy Land

Super swamper
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Super swamper → Swamp (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear what this redirect is meant to refer. Steel1943 (talk) 19:49, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete a quick google seems to find a bunch of tires? That isn't notable, and seemingly nothing at target. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  10:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. My first thought was that this was the name of a water pistol, but on investigation I think I'm misremembering the Super Soaker. Thryduulf (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete with no remorse. Review of the user's edit history on the day they created the article indicates the term likely relates to Batman. The Batmobile from Christopher Nolan's Batman films—aka “The Tumbler” uses super-swamper tires.Paleorthid (talk) 19:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Schwingmoor & Swingmoor
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn/resolved  per Richard New Forest's addition to the target article to explain/mention the redirects. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Schwingmoor → Bog (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Swingmoor → Bog (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirects are not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirects and the target unclear. (Due to their similar spelling, I am assuming that whatever subject these redirects refer is the same.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, the quaking bog para ought to mention these terms, which mean the same thing. I've added them in.  Thanks.  Richard New Forest (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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Guido Fawkes (blogger)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Paul Staines. (non-admin closure)  ev iolite   (talk)  16:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Guido Fawkes (blogger) → Guido Fawkes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Technically, the blogger is Paul Staines, who uses the penname "Guido Fawkes" both for his blog (Guido Fawkes) and himself. Not sure how best to deal with this; probably best just to delete this as a redirect. AFreshStart (talk) 12:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 15:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Paul Staines. If someone is using this search term they are most likely wanting to read about the person behind the blog, not about the blog itself. A hatnote to the blog can be added if desired. Thryduulf (talk) 23:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or retarget per  Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 19:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget I’m confident that someone typing Guido Fawkes (blogger) is looking for the person not the website where they post to.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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שרעק
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep שרעק, Delete the remainder.  . Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:50, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="שרעק">שרעק → Shrek (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="שחמט">שחמט → Chess (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="קיעוו">קיעוו → Kyiv (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="קוניאק">קוניאק → Cognac (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="אנטי-גלובליזציה">אנטי-גלובליזציה → Anti-globalization movement (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="אדמת">אדמת → Rubella (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="פירנצה">פירנצה → Florence (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="סוניק יות'">סוניק יות' → Sonic Youth (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="בולוניה">בולוניה → Bologna (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ביסוס מורלי">ביסוס מורלי → Moral psychology (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ספטמבר 24">ספטמבר 24 → September 24 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="קִנָּמוֹן">קִנָּמוֹן → Cinnamon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="צֹועַן Ṣōʕan">צֹועַן Ṣōʕan → Zoan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="ספגטי בולונז">ספגטי בולונז → Bolognese sauce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete because Hebrew versions have no relevance to targets, per WP:RLOTE. Quick Quokka [⁠talk • contribs] 14:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep שרעק in some capacity since "Shrek" is derived from the Hebrew word-I'm not 100% sure about this action since that franchise (and the book that spawned it) is American. Definitely delete the rest per WP:RFOREIGN, since these other topics aren't particularly connected to Hebrew. Regards, SONIC   678   15:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait, Shrek is derived from Hebrew??? Also, the article for Thessaloniki had a redirect @ סלוניקה, but I'm not sure if I should add it to RfD, because it has some connection. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 16:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * שרעק is Yiddish for fright, derived from the German Schreck. Shrek the film franchise is transliterated to שרק in Hebrew-language versions of the film and advertising of the film in Israel. There might be an argument to retarget שרעק to Schreck (disambiguation) but I'm not sure, Yiddish and German are very similar but distinct languages. Bonoahx (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Good points. I'm also not sure what target this would best suit this redirect, so hopefully we can find one. Regards, SONIC   678   19:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:RLOTE, no affinity to the Hebrew language. Bonoahx (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above. There is no particular affinity with the Hebrew or Yiddish language, and these are unlikely search terms here. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget שרעק to Shrek! due to Shrek!'s title coming directly from the Yiddish word שרעק. delete the rest especially צֹועַן Ṣōʕan which isn't even entirely in Hebrew but a garbled mix of Hebrew and IPA? <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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Functional dissonance
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Functional dissonance

Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival

Equimolar
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Glossary of chemistry terms.  Jay (talk) 14:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Equimolar → Molar concentration (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is not mentioned at target; is a Wiktionary redirect to equimolar a better alternative? 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 13:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Glossary of chemistry terms as R to list entry where I have added a definition. Mdewman6 (talk) 07:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Mdewman6. (And thanks for adding it.) ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Lawn bowls at the Summer Paralympics
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural keep  . Not a redirect anymore; hence this discussion is moot (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  17:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Lawn bowls at the Summer Paralympics → Paralympic sports (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

— Edit: Withdrawn, Thanks to fast page creation by SFB. CLalgo (talk) 08:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No content about this at the target, and misleading as well per nom. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Deleting valid redirects to provoke others to undertake some editing work doesn't feel like a particularly helpful mode, but I suppose it has worked. Consider me provoked { SFB 22:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow. That is the fastest I've ever seen that happen. Proposal withdrawn. CLalgo (talk) 08:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Nasty Party
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Nasty Party

Follow the white rabbit
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . With no prejudice to a disambiguation page being created.  Jay (talk) 14:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Follow the white rabbit → Follow the White Rabbit (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrase "follow the white rabbit" is used a lot in conspiracy-theory discourse (e.g. QAnon/Pizzagate), and it is not clear this would be the primary topic for someone searching for the uncapitalised version of this phrase. To avoid confusion, IMO, this should either be made into a disambig page, or deleted. AFreshStart (talk) 21:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 03:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * A disambiguation page with what? Thryduulf (talk) 00:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I feel the redirect should be DABIfied with White Rabbit and the Follow the White Rabbit episode. The capitalised current target should link to the DAB. Veverve (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and add a hatnote something like . Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Amstelodami
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Amstelodami → Amsterdam (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Correct Latin name for Amsterdam is Amstelodamum. Amstelodami is an adjective. Of course, Amstelodami is the Genitive and Locative of Amstelodamum. Thesmp (talk) 17:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how you arrive at this conclusion; this seems to be just the genitive of the name. No opinion if it should be kept, though. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  18:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Keep as a valid search term or perhaps soft redirect to Amstelodami. A7V2 (talk) 03:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete We should always delete redirects that aren't in nominative case (for inflectional languages) or aren't the stem (for agglutinative languages), but explaining why is a bit tricky since English is neither. Translating Amstelodami as Amsterdam is flat-out wrong, because it's the genitive and locative form. The correct translation for genitive is Amsterdam's, and for locative is in Amsterdam. If someone created the redirects Amsterdam's and in Amsterdam and redirected it to Amsterdam, there is little doubt in my mind that both redirects would be deleted. The Latin equivalents should be deleted too. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 07:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a point that people unfamiliar with the language are not unlikely to enter an inflected form they saw somewhere, and as such redirects like this would serve a similar purpose as the usual redirects from other languages. Leaning delete though. 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 23:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Oiyarbepsy Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  10:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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Set out
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Set out → wiktionary:Special:Search/set out (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:SSRT: "Please keep in mind that only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects. We don't need a soft redirect for every possible word or phrase to be included in Wikipedia." Fram (talk) 08:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think this link is useful, because we can think that the owner of the dictionary will link to here, and then if you don't lead these people to wikt, people who come to here will feel puzzled. ⸺Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 04:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Recently created redirect that can be safely deleted. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Weak Delete - Don't need this in Wikipedia, and the argument for keeping, by the creator of the redirect, is nearly incomprehensible. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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HoWard Taft
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23HoWard Taft

HoWard TaFt
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 04:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * HoWard TaFt → William Howard Taft (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While I'm usually supportive of redirects with non-standard capitalization, this one takes it a little too far into implausability, as there's nothing logical or systematic about this set of capitalization errors at all. Hog Farm Talk 04:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Agreed there is no reason to beleieve someone would think his name is spelled HoWard. Remove this redirect.Nerguy (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This redirect Was created Well aFter the CamelCase era, and it just seems to be collecting dust in the search bar other than the sparse uses. Regards, SONIC   678   16:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, but if kept, this would beg for the creation of an R from SpongeBob capitalisation. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 02:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia it's called StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs capitalization. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:37, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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Nguyen Ngọc Tho
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Not much of an agreement after two relists, and I'm not sure if a third relist would be particularly fruitful. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Nguyen Ngọc Tho">Nguyen Ngọc Tho → Nguyễn Ngọc Thơ (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I know redirects are CHEAP however; this redirect is incredibly improbably as it is from a title without diacritics but includes ọ, which is a letter with a diacritic making it a redirect from partial diacritics to a page with full diacritics. The diacriticless Nguyen Ngoc Tho is a redirect that works perfectly well. I recommend delete. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 20:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Keep, gets non-negligible pageviews. And that's enough. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems like a majority of the page views over the past 365 days (12-of-16) have been since the RfD nom. I think some of the earlier use was that was not created until 2014 whereas this has existed since 2007 so the data dating back to 2014 could start to lean towards  for that time period. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte — Preceding undated comment added 14:13, 24 February 2022‎
 * This is why the stats link at the top of all nominations is configured to show the period ending the day before nomination. However, the page view tool is currently broken for me so I can't see what the actually relevant figures are. Thryduulf (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This got 5 page views in the last year, which is basically noise levels of usage. As a title with partly missing diacritics I don't think it's a plausible search term. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 20:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keepish. WP:CHEAP, as nom said, and there are at least a few pageviews per year. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  11:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per 192.76.8 - page views are essentially negligible, and this redirect would only help searchers that somehow are able to type ọ but not any of the other diacritics. ev iolite   (talk)  02:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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Connection Tour 07
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Connection Tour 07

🔴
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Red Circle. Without prejudice to retargeting other similar characters that were listed by the IP if necessary. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="🔴">🔴 → Circle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems a little weird to me that we're assuming that people who specifically write in 🔴 want to go "Circle"—seems much more likely that if they're gonna take the time to copy and paste the unicode emoji, they'd want to be navigated to The Color Red. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 01:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If you cannot see this emoji, it is a large red circle the same size as other emojis. On some platforms, it has a glossy specularity. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep without prejudice. This character is U+1F534 "LARGE RED CIRCLE", the similar characters 🟠 🟡  🟢  🟣  🟤  🔵  🔶  🔷  🔸  🔹  🔺  🔻 🟥 🟦  🟧  🟨  🟩  🟪  🟫  all redirect to Circle, Rhombus, Triangle or Square as appropriate to their shape and this one should not be singled out from the set. All individual unicode code points that have a defined meaning are plausible search terms and should lead to somewhere. In this case I don't see any reason why that somewhere should not be the article about the shape, but if others prefer the colour or some other target then the set should be discussed as a whole. Thryduulf (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - no opinion on Circle vs e.g. Red, but changing it to the color would require a discussion involving all of the other ones pointed out above. Although the song in question apparently has been illustrated as a red dot on some versions of the CD, it doesn't look like there's an official name, and the album predates emoji's inclusion in Unicode anyway (so the dot isn't specifically the emoji.) ev iolite   (talk)  04:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Red Circle. feminist (talk) 03:29, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Red Circle, and additionally, take the other ones pointed out by @Thryduulf and retarget them to Orange Circle, Yellow Circle, Blue Square, Orange Rhombus, etc etc, if such articles exist. If such articles don't exist (if there is actually an Orange Rhombus article I will genuinely be surprised), keep the current redirects. casualdejekyll  01:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to this suggestion. Thryduulf (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Red Circle per WP:REMOJI and above. Bonoahx (talk) 17:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget + Retarget list of thryduulf per casualdejekyll Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  11:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment there are very few "colour shape" pages for which these emoji have any plausible connection to the topic discussed; and Red Square (painting) seems to be the only ones are actually about solid-coloured geometric shapes (to be fair, I haven't checked rhomboids and triangles yet) 61.239.39.90 (talk) 03:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * is about the North American sign for a beginner's skiing trail (which actually looks like a green circle); Green Circles is a song (i.e. not a plausible target); Green Ball/ball/Balls/balls are red; an album
 * is about a traffic circle in a town called Orange; Orange Ball is an album; → basketball (ball) is under discussion (probably going to get retargetted to the album); Orange circle/Circles/circles/Balls/balls are red
 * Yellow Circle/circle/Circles/circles/Ball/ball|Balls/balls, Brown Circle/circle/Circles/circles/Ball/ball/Balls/balls, and Purple Circle/circle/Circles/circles/Ball/ball/Balls/balls are all red
 * redirects to Blue Circle Industries (whose logo is a hollow blue circle rather than a solid one); Blue Ball is a disambiguation page (mostly consisting of settlements and other proper nouns which aren't actually blue); blue balls an article (to which Blue Balls redirects); Blue circle/Circles/circles/ball are red
 * is a TV episode; red ball is a disambiguation page (to which redirects); Red Circle is a disambiguation page as mentioned above; Red circle/Circles/circles/Balls are red
 * Red Square is of course in Moscow, and there's also a Red Square (disambiguation). Red Square (painting) is the only entry there that actually looks like a 🟥; Red square/Squares/squares are all red
 * Orange Square/square/Squares/squares, Yellow Square/square/Squares/squares, and Purple Square/square/Squares/squares are all red
 * Green Square is a disambiguation page for a few locations; square/Squares/squares are all red
 * Blue square is a dab page with only one entry that actually looks like a 🟦 (again, a skiing sign); redirects to the dab page; Squares/squares are red
 * Brown Square is a location (and is stated to be green); points to Brown Square; Squares/squares are  red


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Department of public services
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Public Service Commission. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Department of public services → Baguio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Department of Public Services → Baguio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm pretty sure that there are many other, more prominent departments along the lines of public services other than this random "now-defunct Department of Public Services"  — twotwofourtysix (My talk page and contributions) 07:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 08:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget to Public Service Department (Malaysia) as the most plausible target. Other targets are partial title matches (ex. Vermont Public Service Department and Administrative Department of Public Service (Colombia). I don't mind it getting deleted though since it's almost too vague for me. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Public Service Commission and convert that to a set index (which is mostly what it is anyway), adding various public services departments including those listed above, Public Services and Procurement Canada, New York Public Service Commission (part of a Department of Public Service that is not covered in a separate article), Public Service Commission (New Zealand), Department of Public Service and Administration. Thryduulf (talk) 16:46, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: added Department of Public Services to this nomination. Please revert if you disagree. - Eureka Lott 15:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: One more try for consensus given that there's clear dissatisfaction with the status quo. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 01:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to public service Public Service Commission This type of department doesn't just exist in one Filipino city, but is a worldwide concept. Definitely shouldn't be limited to one country or city.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 20:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note: The page thryduulf linked is now an SIA. Pinging who participated before it was relisted twice with no discussion to let you know that that was changed. Happy Editing-- IAm  Chaos  11:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that page now matches what I want in a target for this redirect so my recommendation to retarget to Public Service Commission stands. Thryduulf (talk) 11:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Consider this an 'aye' in regards to the retargeting; that now makes much more sense. Vote! so changed.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 20:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with a SIA. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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Future Event List
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 11%23Future Event List

Wikipedia:AW
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Article wizard. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Should this redirect to Article Wizard, like WP:aw? – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk | contribs) 03:51, 11 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 14:35, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AW → Template:Wikipedia Awards (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Aw → Wikipedia:Article wizard (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * I would suggest bundling the other redirect into this nomination, since the aim here seems to be to syncronise them. I would be tempted to retarget WP:aw, since it was fairly recently created and has no real incoming links, as opposed to WP:AW which has been around for 15 years and has a few dozen links. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 17:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Bundled. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)  23:05, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 01:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd say target all to the article wizard. It's weird that it currently goes to Template:Wikipedia Awards rather than Awards. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 23:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Admin note I've nuked WP:aw per WP:G5. If someone wants to recreate it following the result of the above discussion I don't see any reason why that would be an issue. Primefac (talk) 07:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. There needs to be a very good reason to change a shortcut that has "been around for 15 years and has a few dozen links", and I'm not seeing any in this nomination or elsewhere. Thryduulf (talk) 20:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * One good reason to change a shortcut is when most (or all) of the existing uses are not for the current, but for the proposed target :) – Uanfala (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Change. I've checked five existing uses of the shortcut at random (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), and in all of them the intended target was the article wizard. Retargeting there certainly makes sense, though it may be wiser to both resolve potential future ambiguity and accommodate present uncertainty by creating a disambiguation page. – Uanfala (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Uanfala. Article wizard is much popular and searched for page than Wikipedia Awards as shown by |Template:Wikipedia_Awards pageview stats of past 12 months. If a significant number of current links to WP:AW were meant for Article Wizard but are leading to Wikipedia Awards instead, I think that's an issue needs to be solved. AW is a much more natural shortcut for Article Wizard than anything else. Article Wizard page itself was created 5 years ago. No way someone would have known 15 years ago that we'd have a much better candidate for AW to redirect to. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To be fair, the current version of the Article Wizard was written in 2017 but the old version previously occupying that title goes back to 2007. This redirect was created before that, in 2006, so your point is still valid. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for correcting me. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:41, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Article wizard per Uanfala (until the last clause, I oppose disambiguating). I've spot-checked a few additional links myself (6, 7, 8, 9, 10) and came to the same conclusion. Additionally, the new target will resolve the namespace mismatch. I'm not concerned at all about the lowercase version; lowercase shortcuts are rarely (if ever?) used. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * re lowercase shortcuts. They are sometimes used when the shortcut is a word, especially if it's 4 or more letters (e.g. |Wikipedia:KEEP WP:KEEP and WP:Keep both get used) but two letter combinations that aren't a common word are rare. I wouldn't go out of my way to create one, but equally wouldn't go out of my way to delete one that matches the target of an unproblematic uppercase version. Thryduulf (talk) 11:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm shocked that you're replying to me about something that I already expressed that I don't care about, instead of correcting your hasty !vote in the face of "new" information (new in quotes because it was there for you to figure out on your own). -- Tavix ( talk ) 12:53, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/2012 proposed revision
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/2012 proposed revision

Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/test
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9%23Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/test