Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 21

March 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 21, 2022.

Up and Over
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Neutral Milk Hotel discography. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term is nowhere to be found on target page. There is no lowercase entry, but the phrase of often used in WP articles. Unlikely to benefit anybody by repointing. Richhoncho (talk) 20:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * First, -1 style point for failing to come up with a section title as clever as the last In the Aeroplane Over the Sea RfD I recall. That aside, assuming this is unambiguous, retarget to Neutral_Milk_Hotel_discography, which mentions this song and explains its connection to In the Aeroplane Over the Sea.In closing, But for now we are young / Let us lay in the sun / And count every beautiful thing we can see. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 23:20, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Neutral Milk Hotel discography per Tamzin. I don't see the uppercased term as ambiguous. Jay (talk) 06:54, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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Dunghill fowl
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 29%23Dunghill fowl

Meatcube
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  01:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Wendy's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently a secret menu item of Wendy's of ungodly size, but there doesn't seem to be a primary topic here - usages of the phrase seem to be referring more to chunks of meat than this obscure dish. Hog Farm Talk 20:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. That, and Wikipedia is WP:NOTFANDOM. Steel1943  (talk) 21:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I found several articles about recipes that uses cubes of meat as ingredients but I don't think they are enough to considered for retargetting. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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Draft:I Won't Break
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  01:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Russia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2018 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Leftover redirect following article move from draft space to main space Sims2aholic8 (talk) 20:28, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RDRAFT. I just changed the target of the nominated redirect from I Won't Break to Russia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2018 (and updated this nomination) since the former is now a redirect towards the latter, thus bypassing the double redirect. In addition, I Won't Break had content for over 4 prior to being redirected; as the nominator alluded, the redirected article was formerly a draft at the nominated redirect prior to being moved. The nominated redirect serves as a historical for both the fact that a draft article (that was eventually moved to the article space) existed in the past, and with the R avoided double redirect tag I placed on the nominated redirect, editors can follow the "paper trail" if necessary to locate the former edit history. Steel1943  (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per WP:RDRAFT. Nothing is gained from deletion. A7V2 (talk) 06:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per above - not a valid reason to delete and per WP:RDRAFT there is consensus to keep such redirects. ev iolite   (talk)  00:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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Urens
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 29%23Urens

County Line Country Fest
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target, possibly independently notable. Delete unless either a due addition can be added to the target or if someone wants to start a stub. signed,Rosguill talk 18:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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TheTekkitRealm
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 28%23TheTekkitRealm

Irish separatists
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 28%23Irish separatists

Utricle (fruit)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 28%23Utricle (fruit)

TUROPHOBIA
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 15:54, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → List of phobias (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think that people usually type SCREAMING, especially about such obscure terms. Quick Quokka [⁠talk • contribs] 12:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No transclusions. Not a likely search term in all caps. BusterD (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as the admin who moved the original article - which I'll add has been deleted as well. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  15:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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CAT:VIACOM
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Category:Viacom (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Unlikely to be useful now that the target is a redirect to Category:Paramount Global. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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CAT:WAWTOFUI
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:46, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Unlikely to be useful since the target was renamed from Category:Wikipedia articles with topics of unclear importance in 2007. WANIE was originally Category:Wikipedia articles that need their importance to be explained. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 23:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation)"> → Russian Greek Catholic Church (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Perhaps somewhat unhelpfully, Articles for deletion/Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation) was closed in 2018 as "Redirect somewhere". It was eventually redirected to Russian Greek Catholic Church with a suitable hatnote. If this is acceptable, then it is clear that Russian Greek Catholic Church is not a disambiguation page and so Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation) should be deleted. I would have used G14 if this wasn't controversial. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment a set index could be created somewhere, to list the Catholic churches in what is now and what was in the past Russia (ie. Russian Empire); which would list the churches, instead of the overview article "Catholic Church in Russia"; then this could be retargetted there, per the AfD outcome (since they seem to want to keep it) -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 15:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete so long as no page exists disambiguating the term "Russian Catholic Church". If such a page is created, retarget there. Or create a DAB/SIA here; the 2018 AfD consensus would only preclude creating it as a DAB for just those two pages. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 01:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per Tamzin. An article ending with "(disambiguation)" should never redirect to something else than a DAB. Veverve (talk) 14:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I see this more of a deletion review of the mentioned AfD. Delete, there was no G14 when the AfD closed in 2018. Disambiguation pages were covered under a single bullet point of G6 (technical), and there was no opinion about SIA at the time. Jay (talk) 17:41, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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Ukrainian Revolution of 2013
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 6%23Ukrainian Revolution of 2013

Alkiviadis
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * → Alcibiades (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Anachronistic transliteration that fails WP:RFFL, as the topic has no affinity to modern Greek. Avilich (talk) 00:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The question I would put is, how likely is it that someone reading Greek sources—perhaps tour guides or other tourist literature—or recent histories by modern Greek authors—would run across this form, and wonder who it is? If there's even a small possibility that this form is currently in use, and that people might want to look it up on English Wikipedia, then we should keep it unless it's needed for some other purpose.  I don't feel confident in my ability to guess whether people would or wouldn't run across it—but if this is a typical rendering in modern Greek, then I would guess it could come up.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are people called in both ancient and modern times, and I don't see how the modern "Alkiviadis" could more likely refer to the Alcibiades than any other person. There is in Wikipedia a Greek general named Alkiviadis Stefanis, which is itself a better target for the redirect "Alkiviadis" simply for the fact that he has the actual spelling in the name. Another possibility is retargeting to Alcibiades (disambiguation), but this spelling doesn't appear there. Avilich (talk) 19:52, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * In the absence of any replies I would suggest a soft delete, so that anybody can recreate it with a better target. Avilich (talk) 23:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * There are more people than Alkiviadis Stefanis who use it as the first name. I have attempted a disambig draft at the redirect. Jay (talk) 08:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * These are just variant transliterations, as far as I can tell; would it not make more sense to retarget to Alcibiades (disambiguation) and expand that page to include this transliteration? --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 17:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm OK if someone knowledgeable (in terms of the transliteration) adds all the Alkiviadis entries into the Alcibiades dab. Jay (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd be okay with that too. ev iolite   (talk)  13:39, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as drafted unless we have the merged dab page per Tamzin. The merge can be done even later after this closes. Jay (talk) 17:21, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as drafted - reasonable forename page. ev iolite   (talk)  00:35, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as drafted. Despite the shared origin, the two names – the Modern Greek on and the one in languages of Western Europe (list at Alcibiades (disambiguation)) – are different. They're pronounced differently, often spelt differently, and readers typing one won't be looking for the other. Disambiguating separately is, therefore, best. – Uanfala (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:S
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