Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 23

March 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 23, 2022.

Penisular redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Tiger snake (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Tiger snake (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * → Peninsular Gneiss (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These are the only redirects with this misspelling of "peninsula(r)". Just like with other redirects for expressions where the generic term is misspelt, these can get in the way of all other searches where the user makes the misspelling. I propose that they are deleted (except maybe for Penisula tiger snake, which can be moved to the correct version Peninsula tiger snake. – Uanfala (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom and do not move Penisula tiger snake per WP:MOVEREDIRECT - if it's necessary we can just create it. ev iolite   (talk)  22:39, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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M*A*S*H(tv series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 *  → M*A*S*H (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB; no space between title and left parentheses of disambiguator, and M*A*S*H (tv series) exists and targets the same target. Steel1943 (talk) 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:06, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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Gianpaul Gonzalez
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Cleveland Guardians minor league players (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Elected free agency from the Indians/Guardians system, so no longer belongs in the scope of the target article and is thus not mentioned. A stand-alone article on the subject has been deleted via PROD. Hog Farm Talk 21:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator-- Yankees10 21:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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Brad Jones (baseball)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 *  → Toronto Blue Jays minor league players (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

According to milb.com, Jones retired in June 2018. He no longer qualifies for the list criteria for the current target, and I don't think there's anywhere good to retarget here. Hog Farm Talk 21:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator-- Yankees10 21:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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Smart Sockets
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 30%23Smart Sockets

Chakra(Naruto)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:45, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 *  → Naruto (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target section doesn't exist. The proper spaced variant, Chakra (Naruto), doesn't exist (and content at this title was deleted multiple times). There doesn't seem to be a proper place in Naruto-related articles to target this redirect or the nonexistent aforementioned proper spaced variant. Probably best to delete to let search results provide the best assistance. Steel1943 (talk) 16:58, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 01:49, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:06, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Should we create Chakra (Naruto) as a redirect to Naruto which does say what the chakra is? We can then delete the spaceless Chakra(Naruto). However, I see other Naruto disambiguated redirects to non-existing sections - Ninjutsu (Naruto), Puppet (Naruto) and Taijutsu (Naruto), and a redirect Genjutsu (Naruto) that doesn't have a mention, and can be nominated. Jay (talk) 17:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and delete other Naruto disambiguated redirects to non-existing sections too. --Balkovec (talk) 15:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Aluminium(metal)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Aluminium(metal)"> → Aluminium (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB. The properly spaced variant, Aluminium (metal), exists and targets the same page. Steel1943 (talk) 14:29, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:40, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 10:07, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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Bego Turks
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  . RfD is for redirects, not articles (and no, you can't get around that by turning an article into a redirect and then immediately nominating it for deletion as a redirect). I've started an AfD discussion at Articles for deletion/Bego Turks. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 23:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Ada Kaleh (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Made up name. "Bego Turks" only gives Wikipedia-related results and "Bego Türkleri" gives 0. Super  Ψ   Dro  13:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * In the source who is written in German, there is given the name Bego Turks for the Inhabitans.
 * https://www.academia.edu/23622641/Mustafa_Bego_t%C3%BCrkischer_Nargileh_Raucher_und_ungarischer_Nationalheld_Nationale_Aneignung_und_internationale_Vermarktung_der_Insel_Ada_Kaleh

called Bego Turks Nalanidil (talk) 14:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , can you give the page where this name is said? By the way, if only one single source talks about this term, the information becomes doubtful. Super   Ψ   Dro  18:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a PDF, I will scroll down it, but yes i understand what you mean, this is why i was confused too, the majority sources said they are turks, only one source said they are of mixed background
 * I think we can deleted the article then. Nalanidil (talk) 22:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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Bucharest summit
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 30%23Bucharest summit

Z (hate symbol)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . The keep and delete votes were only regarding the Russian symbol, and did not provide an opinion about the suggested target Wolfsangel. The retarget vote did not provide an opinion about the Russian symbol. However, retargeting to Wolfsangel as a more appropriate target based on the nomination, and a better target based on one comment.  Jay (talk) 19:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Z (hate symbol)">Z (hate symbol) → Z (military symbol) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The Russian "Z" does not appear to be regularly described in reliable sources as a hate symbol – a more appropriate target would probably be Wolfsangel per USA Today. Maybe I missed something, since it's a tad difficult to search for a single letter in this manner, but I would suggest it's too soon to be classifying the Russian "Z" as a hate symbol, given the reliable sources aren't there. Sdrqaz (talk) 00:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Redirects don't require reliable sources, they just have to be an unambiguous alternate title or search term. That said, you may be right that Wolfsangel is a better target, except that the Russian Z is a current hot news topic and people may be struggling to figure out how to describe it in their searches for it... and this does seem to be a plausible way they might search for it, given that some people (not reliable sources, just some people) online are describing it as a hate symbol.  I almost want to create a disambiguation page for various uses of Z-like symbols as group identifiers, but that might be too broad.  But regardless... searching for information on this thing is difficult, because it's so generic! It's just a letter of the alphabet! Fieari (talk) 03:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep as a likely search term. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:09, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. How is it a hate symbol anyway? Veverve (talk) 15:52, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not known as a hate symbol. Most likely search would include "Russia" or "Russian". Wiki-psyc (talk) 12:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wolfsangel casualdejekyll  13:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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macOS 13
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  01:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → High Sierra (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should point to the upcoming macOS 13, not High Sierra (10.13). Kreb (talk) 03:33, 16 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep people did refer to it as 13. Tag as R from incorrect name / R with possibilities, when a section opens up for OS 13 at macOS, it can be retargetted there, where 10.13 is already listed. After an article on the replacement for Monterrey is written, it can again be retargetted, and a hatnote added for 10.13; As there is no section at macOS for the future replacement, nor an article on it, it can remain as is. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 11:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep Exactly what IP said. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  09:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Umm ... redirects should not point to themselves. (Is there something I'm missing here?) Steel1943  (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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Willie Foster
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 30%23Willie Foster

Homaridae
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 * The result of the discussion was keep, nomination withdrawn  . (non-admin closure)  ev iolite   (talk)  11:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * → Lobster (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, so it is unclear what this is meant to refer. It seems this word has some sort of connection to lobsters, but the closest title match I could find is Homarus, and it is not completely clear if the redirect and the aforementioned term are synonymous. There is also Homeridae, but that is a subject unrelated to lobsters. Steel1943 (talk) 05:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * it was a spelling mistake in Lobster that seems to have been there for a long time (and wrongly italicized). "Homaridae" is a junior synonym. I've corrected the article with a reference. A Google Scholar search shows that older sources frequently used "Homaridae". Peter coxhead (talk) 07:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It was wrongly changed in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lobster&type=revision&diff=924904764&oldid=924078595 this edit]. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Consider this withdrawn. Steel1943  (talk) 14:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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HoWard Taft
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete "F", no consensus on "W"  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * HoWard Taft → William Howard Taft (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Howard TaFt → William Howard Taft (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete these implausible ones for the same reasons as the nom. WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 2 below ; created by the same blocked user. UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Need consensus for HoWard Taft which is probably linked externally. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 04:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Howard TaFt - crosses the line of implausibility - it's extremely rare to capitalize random letters in the middle of words. Likely created as disruption, given the history of the page creator, but keep HoWard Taft as it's inexplicably getting linked to from somewhere, probably externally. Hog Farm Talk 15:23, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk&#124;contribs) 22:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both neither are old enough to be R from camelcase oldstyle links from early 2000s -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep HoWard Taft and delete Howard TaFt per Hog Farm. Deleting the Former might inconvenience a lot of readers (it's still being linked, possibly From external links as Well), but not so much With the latter, Which only got a Whopping 7 pagevieWs compared to the Former's 453. Regards, SONIC   678   06:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 14:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not valid ways to write target's name. Searching them will likely be enough to educate the user. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 09:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep due to external links . Might as well keep the other one too. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:36, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep capital W; cheap and links, Delete capital F per consensus above. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  09:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Ward, Delete Ft casualdejekyll  20:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete: both per nom. Balkovec (talk) 11:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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CoBain
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete ToBy, no consensus on CoBain  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * CoBain → Kurt Cobain (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * ToBy → Toby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible capitalization in the middle of the name. Created in 2008 and not relevant camel case titles. By a user who created redirects with various possible misspelling and capitalization combinations. Suggest deletion. Jay (talk) 05:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Similar RfDs related to the user's capitalizations: RfD for Paul WolFowitz and Paul WolfoWitz, RfD for HoWard Taft and Howard TaFt, RfD for HoWard TaFt. Jay (talk) 05:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Kinda weak keep CoBain, which for some reason keeps getting a decent stream of pageviews such as 146 last year, and delete ToBy, that one hasn't Been getting a lot of use nowadays. Regards, SONIC   678   06:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete 146 per year is a statistical irrelevance, ~1 every other day or two. Probably a weird fan site or a mirror, or linkfarm. They'll cope. Zaathras (talk) 21:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep CoBain per Sonic678 - the 150-200 hits per year it consistently gets is a very large number for a redirect, statistical noise amounts to a low single digit number per year. I've got no idea where those views are coming from, but that doesn't matter - making it harder for the people to access the content they are looking for harms the encyclopaedia without bringing any benefits. Thryduulf (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak delete ToBy. The 15-20 hits it gets per year are borderline relevant, but there is no obvious connection to the capitalisation. Thryduulf (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Patently inaccurate written names for the targets. Deleting them will correctly tell our readers they are not applicable, and searching them will likely bring up relevant topics of interest. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 08:58, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep/delete per Thryduulf. Zaathras' argument is just incorrect; 146 pageviews per year is well above-average for a redirect. Looking through my own redirect creations, the only ones that exceed that are ones where I happened to snag a common term that for some reason hadn't been redirected yet, like or . As to Zeke's argument, we don't break incoming links just to teach our readers a lesson about spelling. In fact, our guideline says the exact opposite. There are valid reasons to break incoming links (like if the redirect is impermissibly non-neutral), but that isn't one. I don't like the idea of keeping CoBain, but it seems clear enough it's what we have to do. If someone wants to check back in a few years, maybe whatever page links to that redirect will have gone down or changed the link, and we can delete it. Delete ToBy as probably just noise from search-bar suggestions, or miscapped searches that Special:Search would have handled anyways.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:38, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete ToBy, weak keep CoBain per Sonic/Thryduulf/Tamzin. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  09:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete: both per nom. Balkovec (talk) 11:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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Functional dissonance
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  .  Jay (talk) 11:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Functional dissonance → Consonance and dissonance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Structural dissonance → Consonance and dissonance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target (the word "functional" does not even appear there at all). 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 14:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Functional dissonance as per Functional and Non-Functional Dissonance  Journal of Music Theory Vol. 4, No. 2 (Nov., 1960), pp. 233-235 (3 pages)Wiki-psyc (talk) 03:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Both "Functional dissonance" and "Structural dissonance" deserve articles of their own, with a subject matter distinct from what can be dealt with in "Consonance and dissonance." See James Tenney. A History of Consonance and Dissonance, New York: Excelsior, 1988. Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 09:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Need consensus for Functional dissonance. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 15:31, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Hucbald.SaintAmand, REDYES. Veverve (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Struck off to avoid the double-vote per the updated vote below. Jay (talk) 10:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Comment: While it may be ideal to have a separate article, it would seem the redirect for "Functional dissonance" makes sense in the interim. It seems to me that functional and non-functional dissonance could be covered in an article about dissonance.Wiki-psyc (talk) 17:14, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. While eventually we should have articles about both, the redirects are reasonable as they are pointing to the most closely related content we have right now. The redirects can be switched into articles whenever someone feels competent enough to write them. One of the uses of redirects is to decouple building infrastructure from (re-)organizing contents, and it is good to have them so that continuing to build infrastructure isn't hindered by content work laying somewhat behind. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 12:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete all per nom. and REDYES. Veverve (talk) 15:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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