Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 9

March 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 9, 2022.

One Minute Closer to Death
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)


 * One Minute Closer to Death → Death Magnetic (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No assistance to navigation. Probably a rumoured title before release. Failed to find any reference to this title at target, nor at any other page. If there is a better target I have missed, I would remain in favour of retargetting. Richhoncho (talk) 20:50, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak redirect to Ranking Roger, maybe? Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 22:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not retarget to the above suggestion. In the absence of a plausible target, the best solution is to delete this. We don't want to confuse readers who may end up in an article where there's no mention whatsoever of the title in question. CycloneYoris talk! 20:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Redirect to Ranking Roger who, according to Google, has a song by this title.Wiki-psyc (talk) 17:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No mention of this title at Ranking Roger so again no help to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 15:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete [updated] while the song is listed in many catalogs, there are no reliable sources discussing it Wiki-psyc (talk) 14:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC).
 * See the at the target before the working titles were removed.  Jay (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment That revision makes mention that "One Minute Closer to Death" was the working title. Wiki-psyc (talk) 14:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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Yard Ball
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Yard Ball

Wiffle®ball
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay (talk) 22:33, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Wiffle®ball → Wiffle ball (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wiffle(r)ball → Wiffle ball (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The difficulty/unlikeliness of typing the registered trademark symbol, the lack of a space, and the fact that the concept predates the trademark make these redirects unlikely, unhelpful, and possibly misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 22:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The logo on the official website does show the ® symbol after "Wiffle" but not especailly prominently. On first use on other pages the symbol is inlcuded - e.g. the welcome page begins "Dear WIFFLE® Enthusiast:". However usage on the news page includes "[T]he WIFFLE ® Ball was inducted into the National Toy Hall of Fame." with that spacing. Putting all this together I don't think that the unspaced registered trade mark symbol is a likely search term. Thryduulf (talk) 22:43, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete even if the unspaced registered trademark was was used more often in promotional material it’s highly unlikely that the average person who type that trying to search for it.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 03:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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Mossy Land
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Mossy Land

Minimal criminal
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 26%23Minimal criminal

Jodhi Bibi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Jodhi Bibi

Functional dissonance
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 23%23Functional dissonance

Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival
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 * The result of the discussion was restore article  . Only A7V2 !voted to send to AfD as well as restore, so I will leave it to him and/or original BLAR-er Onel5969 to decide whether to AfD. (non-admin closure)  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival → 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Missleading in templates such as Template:Events at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival. Should be deleted to provoke page creation. CLalgo (talk) 13:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 15:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - valid redirect, and to preserve page history.  Onel 5969  TT me</i> 14:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Neutral On one hand, there shouldn't be an article about this, per WP:NOTDATABASE (and due to the fact that no other content seems to exist about this). On the other, even if properly targeted, this is an unlikely search term (giving this is a rather unlikely topic as well), and there is no content about this (other than a line in the sports-by-sports medal table) at the target article (which is itself not much better than a database entry). Removing the redirect would not remove any functionality or valuable content (previous versions of this redirect are entirely unsourced); though at the same time keeping it is a redirect to discourage article creation is also a valid concern. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. Nothing in the completely unsourced history that would help with that. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Revert to the article per WP:BLAR. The objection to the previous article content was one editor disputing notability, the redirect has been objected to with an assertion that it is notable. The place to determine the answer to questions of notability of articles is AfD not RfD. The article was partially sourced, not completely unsourced so the assertion that there is nothing that would help writing a sourced article is incorrect. Thryduulf (talk) 22:49, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Restore and AfD per Thryduulf. I don't feel that it is appropriate as a redirect however since there is next to no information at the target (so second preference delete I suppose). A7V2 (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Revert to the article as there are others like it.Wiki-psyc (talk) 20:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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Nasty Party
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . There doesn't seem to be any appetite for a retarget, restore, or deletion. (non-admin closure)  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Nasty Party → Theresa May (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Appears to have originally been an article retargeted to Conservatism in the United Kingdom but changed to the current target without discussion. Theresa May popularised the phrase, but it isn't really in relation to her. Suggest Restore per Articles for deletion/Nasty Party or retarget to somewhere more appropriate as WP:RNEUTRAL. Bonoahx (talk) 10:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.3em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:52, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete entirely. The original redirect doesn't mention the phrase "Nasty Party" at all (and such a redirect seems borderline PoV/disruptive). The Theresa May reference at least mentions the phrase, but I don't see it being notable enough for this redirect ot exist. — <i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i> 11:18, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as is, or restore: It certainly is a known and probably notable expression enough and probably ought to be included in Conservatism in the United Kingdom—it is used routinely in discussions around British politics to describe the shifts in positioning of the UK's political parties (i.e. following shifts in public attitudes and Howard's failure in the 2005 General Election, the Conservative Party moving away from social conservatism and towards the social liberalism of the David Cameron/George Osborne years). Examples of it being used: Guardian 2002, Independent 2021, BBC 2002, BBC 2008, BBC 2021, BBC 2021 again LabourList 2016. The neutrality argument here seems weak—the phrase is associated with Theresa May. The redirect does not say to the reader "Theresa May is a nasty party" nor "Theresa May is a member of a nasty party". If you read it like that, the neutrality argument would also apply if to any other redirect target (e.g. the Conservative Party or 'Conservatism in the UK'). Redirecting any political slogan or expression could have an obtuse interpretation, but we should assume a sensible reader who can grasp a modicum of nuance. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There's a little bit of content at Compassionate conservatism. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 01:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. A plausible search term that's discussed in sufficient depth at the target article, which is about the person who introduced the term into mainstream political discourse. WP:RNEUTRAL, which the nominator cites, explicitly contradicts their argument. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 12:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I did not make my rationale particularly clear - my thought process was that it could be redirected to Conservatism in the United Kingdom or Conservative Party (UK) as a non-neutral representation of the Tory party. The keep arguments are a good rebuttal to that but just thought I'd try to make myself clear. Bonoahx (talk) 19:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Plausible search term and May is definitely associated with the phrase. Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:27, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Department of Finance
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ministry of Finance. Similar redirects may be boldly retargeted there as well. (non-admin closure)  JBchrch   talk  01:37, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Department of Finance → Finance minister (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm really not sure what the proper process is for converting a redirect to a dismabiguation page so forgive me if I'm in the wrong place here. Currently, Department of Finance redirects to finance minister. I believe however that this page would serve much better as a disambiguation page for a considerable number of Departments of Finance throughout the world. See here for search results. Calistemon (talk) 11:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the right place. Convert to set index per nom, I'll see if I can draft one shortly. ev iolite   (talk)  16:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, while drafting it I found this section Ministry of Finance that already lists ministries of finance called "Department", which serves largely the same purpose. Retarget there instead. ev iolite   (talk)  16:38, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ministry of Finance and tag as . Thryduulf (talk) 22:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ministry of Finance per User:Eviolite -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:57, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment businesses have finance departments... but would not have ministries. And universities have academic finance departments (teaching) and operational finance departments (like a company's finance dept) -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 06:41, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Suggest bundling these redirects that also point to Finance minister: Department of finance, Departments of Finance, Departments of finance, Finance Department, Finance department, Finance departments and Finance Departments. Jay (talk) 22:11, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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Northern Irish nationalism
<span id="Nationalist (Northern Ireland)"> <span id="Nationalism (Northern Ireland)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Northern Irish nationalism

CoBain
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 23%23CoBain

Paul WolFowitz
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Paul WolFowitz → Paul Wolfowitz (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Paul WolfoWitz → Paul Wolfowitz (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible capitalization in the middle of the name. Created in 2008 and not relevant camel case titles. By a user who created redirects with various possible misspelling and capitalization combinations. Suggest deletion. Jay (talk) 05:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Similar RfDs related to the user's capitalizations: RfD for HoWard Taft and Howard TaFt, RfD for HoWard TaFt. Jay (talk) 05:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete both per nom. These don't seem to be receiving much traFFic in the Way of pageviews, apart From a Few mostly relatively small spikes here and there. Regards, SONIC   678   06:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * DeLete both per nom and Sonic678, implausible typo. Bonoahx (talk) 10:03, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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Vlad Puttin
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Vlad Puttin → Vladimir Putin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target is not known by this name. This looks to be a parody twitter handle with a handful of tweets in January 2018, and not mentioned at the target. Suggest deletion. Jay (talk) 05:00, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, no reliable sources use this term (all I can see are Twitter handles, Reddit posts, and comments on other forums), and it is not a plausible typo. Bonoahx (talk) 10:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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HoWard Taft
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 23%23HoWard Taft

Jschlatt
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 18%23Jschlatt

Connection Tour 07
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Limited participation despite two relists. There was no strong opinion for or against the nomination for deletion (assuming this was for deletion, considering the sock creator rationale). Redirecting to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl as a target better than the current, with no prejudice against a renomination.  Jay (talk) 22:27, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Connection Tour 07 → Nintendo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nowhere mentioned in article, and creator of redirect is a confirmed sockpuppet. Quick Quokka [talk] 16:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 02:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Retarget or Delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 04:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl which has a minor mention, or Delete since it's likely not helpful. It used to be mentioned here on Nintendo Australia, the original target, but the material was not merged when the article got AfDed. There was also a mention in a now-deleted article but of course, that doesn't exist anymore. ev iolite   (talk)  17:38, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/2012 proposed revision
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/2012 proposed revision

Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/test
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/test

Kyiv Internatioanl Film Festival "Molodist"
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Kyiv Internatioanl Film Festival &quot;Molodist&quot;">Kyiv Internatioanl Film Festival "Molodist" → Kyiv International Film Festival "Molodist" (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect for an unlikely misspelling Atlantic306 (talk) 01:00, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per ; this is an R from move, which was the article title for a few months. Those few months were enough to see this redirect garner some views from old links, and we are better served not breaking them. It isn't like this redirect is causing any signficant harm. — &thinsp;J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947, and because redirects are cheap, and there's nothing wrong with keeping some typo redirects around. Fieari (talk) 03:32, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was the one who unthinkingly mentioned the possibility of RFD in an edit summary while adding . It was not a serious request for nor attempt at an RFD nomination, and I should have considered the implications more carefully. I am neutral to the nomination as it currently stands. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 05:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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Z (hate symbol)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16%23Z (hate symbol)