Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 11

November 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 11, 2022.

Chinook Chess Program
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Chinook Chess Program → Chinook (computer program) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article was mistakenly given the wrong name at creation time and then immediately moved to a better title. It's a checkers program, not chess, so this is a wildly implausible search term. Suggest deltion. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 20:06, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete It is a checkers program, not chess program. Also, it has no non-RFD page views. Roostery123 (talk) 02:06, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Donald Trump endorsements
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate and retarget  . Disambiguate the first and retarget the other two redirects there. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Donald Trump endorsements → Donald Trump presidential campaign endorsements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Donald J. Trump Endorsements → Donald Trump presidential campaign endorsements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Trump endorsements → Donald Trump presidential campaign endorsements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects are ambiguous and so might cause confusion: each could refer to endorsements by Trump or endorsements of Trump (the current target). I would say that the former is slightly more likely to be the primary topic, in that Trump's endorsements are subject to some ongoing discussion in reliable sources, while endorsements of Trump have mostly only received attention during his 2016 campaign. But I wouldn't object to deleting these either, especially as the "endorsements by" article is just five lines of prose and a lot of tables devoid of context. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: If disambiguated, how many entries will the disambiguation have, and is List of endorsements by Donald Trump the primary topic? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 18:00, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Ambiguous. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or convert to DAB page: This is something that people would reasonably search for. p  b  p  15:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. This could refer to endorsements of Trump as a candidate, endorsements of Trump in some other capacity (like positive reviews of his books), endorsements by Trump of political candidates, or endorsements by Trump of other things such as commercial products. BD2412  T 05:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per WP:TWODABS, and hatnote to List of endorsements by Donald Trump. When there are more then you can make it a disambiguation page as with Hillary Clinton endorsements AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I have started drafting a disambiguation page under the redirect. BD2412  T 21:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:CPOV
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Civil POV pushing.  ✗  plicit  23:47, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * CPOV → Wikipedia:Christian POV on Wikipedia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This shortcut more often than not refers to civil POV pushing, and only 3 of the 20 backlinks use it in the sense of "Christian POV" (I checked all of them). In any case, the target essay already has two shortcuts, and it certainly doesn't need a third. Retarget to Civil POV pushing. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:18, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget as Civil POV is the primary term/more commonly used Roostery123 (talk) 02:07, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Baltic past and present/ Baltic mythology
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Baltic past and present/ Baltic mythology → Baltic mythology (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Left over from a page move that was quickly moved back. Seems implausible this would be searched for. – Novem Linguae (talk) 15:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. – Sabbatino 16:05, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. It is absurd that a bizarre redirect resulting from an undiscussed page move should itself require discussion to delete. BD2412  T 16:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * What criteria? <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:40, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:DENY. BD2412  T 06:28, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:59, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This could probably be speedied, it's the result of a student editor moving their page around to different titles in main space. The redirect was created when the article was moved back to its original title. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:52, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment As Liz said, this wasn't an intentionally-created redirect, it was the product of confusion by the student editor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:39, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Granola eaters
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 18%23Granola eaters

Penny Doe
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per G8.  By User:Happy-melon (non-admin closure) .  Crouch, Swale  ( talk )  11:49, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Penny Doe → List of unidentified murder victims in the United States (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect should be deleted. Non-notable topic that is not mentioned in the target article. 4meter4 (talk) 03:42, 4 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:52, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment is Penny Doe a placeholder name like John Doe?  Should it redirect there?  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:14, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and re-add: @AngusWOOF It's not a generic placeholder in this case. I think Penny Doe is referencing the name given to real unidentified murder case in Pennsylvania (she was found with two pennies in her pockets), and has had coverage over the years so not quote "non-notable": 32 years later, the July 1990 'Penny Doe' case in Clarion County, Pennsylvania, remains unsolved. I'm was a bit surprised Penny Doe wasn't listed in that article. Spelunking through the history, however, it was in the page as a valid target around the time the redirect was made then that content was merged to List of unidentified murder victims in Pennsylvania, which was then merged back to  List of unidentified murder victims in the United States but apparently not Penny Doe.
 * So, any reason to not just add back this real unidentified murder victim to the target article? Skynxnex (talk) 02:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for digging that up. It is kind of a placeholder name still, but at least it has a history that's worth adding back to the list of entries, especially with NBC giving it a segment. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 02:35, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Speedy delete tagged with Db-redirnone as the target has been deleted at AFD.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 09:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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Gandara Central Elementary School
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  02:25, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Gandara Central Elementary School → Gandara, Samar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 01:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The pre-redirect page history was unsourced and had nothing significant worth merging. Jay  💬 02:12, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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Hıristiyanlık
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 02:07, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Hıristiyanlık">Hıristiyanlık → Christianity (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No particular affinity for Turkish, and a misspelling anyway, see tr:Hristiyanlık -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as misspelled foreign-language redirect. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 08:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Roostery123 (talk) 02:08, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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