Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 26

November 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 26, 2022.

Redirects without the letter i in film
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:44, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Forty Carats (1973 flm) → 40 Carats (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Supari(Flm) → Supari (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Calcutta Flm Society → Calcutta Film Society (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects don't have much history beyond being leftovers from moves and fixing double redirects, and aren't getting very many pageviews nowadays, possibly because of the misspelling of "film." They also don't have any links from article space, so I'm not sure if we still need them. Also, I didn't nominate Comedy flm because it's been getting an interestingly large number of pageviews this year. Regards, SONIC 678 22:47, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all, including "Comedy flm" - I don't know how many articles we have with "film" in the disambiguator, but keeping these would be a precedent for them all to have a redirect from "flm". No thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:04, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:COSTLY, all were moved to the correct title years ago.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 08:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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Malformed MOS: redirects
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Malformed MOS: redirects

List of ancient Jedi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23List of ancient Jedi

7 Regional
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Jay  💬 08:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 7 Regional → Prime7 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Seven Regional → Seven (Southern Cross Austereo) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an ambiguous term, because there’s more than one Seven Regional. For example Seven (Southern Cross Austereo), is sometimes called Seven Regional and the former GWN7 network is now called Seven Regional WA. Someone may also put the current redirect target (Prime7) at the top of the new disambiguation page. Bassie f (talk) 21:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Adding Seven Regional into this discussion Bassie f (talk) 21:33, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Beat you to it. Steel1943  (talk) 21:34, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Too quick for me @Steel1943 Bassie f (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - In my nomination for this discussion, I said this is an ambiguous term, well actually 7 Regional currently targets Prime7 which is a former Australian television network which has since been folded into the Seven Network while Seven Regional currently targets Seven (Southern Cross Austereo), which is a Seven Network affiliate owned by Southern Cross Austereo.
 * Bassie f (talk) 02:17, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation page drafted at Seven Regional just now. Bassie f (talk) 09:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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MSRV
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 11:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * MSRV → Indian Navy amphibious vessel acquisition project (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer (was meant to be MRSV for "multi-role support vessel"), but created in 2012 so not R3-eligible. We don't have an article for modified semi-solid Rappaport-Vassiliadis medium, and the mention of multiple sclerosis–associated retrovirus is buried deep in Endogenous retrovirus that a redirect wouldn't seem helpful. Paul_012 (talk) 09:05, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!</b> 21:18, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We might want to disambiguate this. In addition the the usage identified above (multiple sclerosis retrovirus, also discussed at Human Endogenous Retrovirus-W), it can also refer to Fearless-class patrol vessels (maritime security and response vessels) of the Republic of Singapore Navy. Plus, the very similar MSRv is the bibcode abbreviation for Mass Spectrometry Reviews. - Eureka Lott 17:38, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No opposition to disambiguation on my part. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * Attempted a dab draft at the redirect. Jay  💬 10:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Moo (Monster Rancher)
<span id="Moo (Monster Rancher)"> <span id="Moo (monster ranchers)"> <span id="Moo (Monster Ranchers)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Moo (Monster Rancher)

Mocchi ball
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Yūka Morishima
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Yūka Morishima

Eastern Christian Orthodoxy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 20:35, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Eastern Christian Orthodoxy → Eastern Orthodoxy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently created, first pointing to Eastern Orthodox Christianity and then to here. The other two pages can clearly be treated synonymously, and either might be searched but improbable that people would search for "Eastern Christian Orthodoxy" looking for those pages, and the term is not synonymous, as it means, literally, Eastern Christians who are orthodox, but orthodox would include Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and perhaps even orthodox protestantism. It does not uniquely refer to "Eastern Orthodoxy". Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * which "eastern orthodox christians" are typically known as protestants or catholics instead? eastern catholic is obscure and protestantism is (since the reformation) one faith quite unable to be orthodox by definition even if it tries to be (since it rejects several ancient ecumenical councils). you could make this a separate page instead explaining orthodoxy from the perspective of eastern Christian church faith. Lord saturnus (talk) 08:49, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note that the above editor is the creator of the redirect. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete for the reasons clearly explained by the nominator. Unnecessary and confusing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:59, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  // Timothy :: talk  23:13, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Ahmadiyya in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Ahmadiyya in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Gellieman
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 19:25, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Gellieman → Aïcha (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete: it redirects to a section that no longer exists and was based on a viral video from the mid-2000s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.23.192.69 (talk) 16:02, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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Ɡ
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Ɡ

Amenability
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Amenability

ᵮ
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2020 Chinese skyscraper ban
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of tallest buildings in China. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:02, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 2020 Chinese skyscraper ban → National Development and Reform Commission (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There was a supertall skyscraper ban, but the National Development and Reform Commission had nothing to do with it. Mucube (talk) 05:16, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: There's also Chinese skyscraper ban created by the same user. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde!Franklin! 06:14, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The user who created this redirect has been blocked as a sockpuppet. I have been going through their edits as they made a number of problematic edits, a few of which are some questionable redirects.  I changed the Chinese skyscraper ban redirect to List of tallest buildings in China and was just about to do the same to this one as I didn't initially notice that there was a discussion because the blocked user removed it.  (The list article might not be the best target, but the lede did at least mention a ban on buildings above 500 meters, so I figured that was better than what it was. Also, I have restored the deletion notice at the redirect.)   With all that aside, I don't really know if the redirects are needed.  As mentioned, the list does mention the ban, but it is only a brief mention in the lede.  This redirect seems to be less useful than the other as I don't really see the need for the year to have been included.  --Super Goku V (talk) 02:25, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of tallest buildings in China where it is mentioned in detail. RoostTC (please ping me when replying) 10:55, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Roost. The list article's lead invalidates the nomination statement. On Super Goku's concern about the year in the title, the year is mentioned in the list's lead. Jay  💬 07:01, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Wei Lang
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:17, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Wei Lang → Huineng (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. I was not able to find any mention of "Wei Lang" in the Huineng article. Mucube (talk) 04:50, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde!Franklin! 05:12, 19 November 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Try again? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde!Franklin! 06:12, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment "Wei Lang" appears to be an unsystematic attempt at transcribing either the Cantonese or Minnan pronunciation of his name. It shows up primarily in early 20th century sources . On the other hand there's a totally different notable person (zh:魏朗; no English Wikipedia article of his own, though mentioned in several other articles) whose name is spelled Wei Lang in Pinyin. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 04:57, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * Disambiguate between the current target and zh:魏朗. Jay  💬 07:46, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Fredric Bedoire
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Fredric Bedoire → Bedoire family (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. The article tells nothing more about this person. There is more about at commons than in the article. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 04:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mark Stenwyck
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23Mark Stenwyck

Little Bukaria
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  04:15, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Little Bukaria → Uzbekistan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term is not mentioned in the target article. No incoming links and not likely to be used by readers. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 03:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Little Bukaria" was the 18th-19th Century word for Uzbekistan; see:
 * Aron Arrowsmith (1831), A Compendium of Ancient and Modern Geography, The British Library, p. 679.
 * Samuel Griswold Goodrich (1840), The Second Book of History: Including the Modern History of Europe, Africa, and Asia, C.J. Hendee, and Jenks and Palmer, p. 167
 * John Hartley (1813), Geography for Youth, Adapted to the Different Classes of Learners, J. Parry, p. 148
 * Anonymous (1835), No Opium! Or, Commerce and Christianity, Working Together for Good in China. A Letter to James Cropper, Esq. of Liverpool. By a Minister and a Layman., Thomas Ward and Co., p. 44
 * Even if the article does not mention it, I believe it is a valid synonym for the country; country synonym indexes such as this one list "Little Bukaria" as an alternate name for Uzbekistan. Surely Redirects are cheap should apply here. -- benlisquare T•C•E 10:22, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep: Per benlisquare. With those citations realistically a mention could be added to the article of its being called Little Bukaria historically, but even if not an R not mentioned should be helpful. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 15:24, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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ToyTalk
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 3%23ToyTalk

Swearing in of John Adams
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Inauguration of John Adams. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Swearing in of John Adams → John Adams (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect might cause confusion: Adams' swearing-in can refer either to his presidential or vice presidential oath of office. JJLiu112 (talk) 02:09, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Inauguration of John Adams I agree that the redirect is potentially confusing, but Adams's presidential inauguration is the clear primary topic here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:15, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as unneeded and per WP:G7. Please note that John Adams (unique among all elected US vice presidents) was sworn in independently from the presidential inauguration. This is the reason I created the redirect at “swearing in of …” and not “1st VP inauguration of ...” and why IMO the current target is more appropriate than his presidential inauguration. I created this redirect to support a living vice presidents template, part of a system developed in my user space. I later modified this system so the template was not necessary and have just now modified it so that this redirect is no longer used. Consequently there are now no more references to this redirect other than those associated with this discussion. Thus i think it qualifies for speedy deletion under WP:G7 but I’m not sure that applies after a RfD is under way. YBG (talk) 14:43, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, this redirect no longer qualifies for WP:G7 since voted for something other than deletion.  Steel1943  (talk) 21:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That makes good sense. Thanks for the clarification. YBG (talk) 22:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Inauguration of John Adams. I concur with Presidentman that his presidential inauguration is the clear main topic. Also, the current target doesn't even mention his inauguration as VP. Clyde!Franklin! 23:28, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Inauguration of John Adams with a hatnote to John Adams. Being sworn in as President is overwhelmingly the more significant topic, and a hatnote will resolve all doubt. BD2412  T 23:40, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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