Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 27

November 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 27, 2022.

John David LaDue
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:37, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * John David LaDue → Waseca Junior and Senior High School (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned anywhere in the article. Partofthemachine (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The revision where the targeted section was removed is really odd. It was an IP and the edit summary stated "fixed typo." The section was reliably sourced with both national and local coverage. Perhaps the best solution is to add it back? I'm not seeing a good reason why it was removed in the first place. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I am in favor of keeping now that the section has been restored. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:28, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman. I've restored the targeted section to the article. feminist (talk) 14:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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L. ferox
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 04:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)


 * L. ferox → Liopleurodon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect is intended as an abbreviation for the binomial Liopleurodon ferox, which is correct, but unsurpisingly, the term can stand for a number of other binomials, such as Laphria ferox. The redirect should be deleted as ambiguous, as there's little practical hope of maintaining a dab page here. – Uanfala (talk) 18:44, 13 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 19:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:03, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. If there are multiple meanings, why would this not be correct resolution? BD2412  T 21:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not that this hasn't been done before, it has: there's C. elegans (disambiguation), and I think the monstrosity of that dab page should be a good indicator of why this sort of solution probably isn't a good idea. Sure, if someone compiles a list of all species names where the genus begins with "L" and where the specific epithet is "ferox", and is ready to keep it up to date with the constant discovery of new species or or the construction of new combinations, then sure, let them do that. But that's way too much work and it's not scalable. The usefulness of such a dab page would be close to zero too, as people don't normally search using abbreviated binomials. See the pageviews relevant to this redirect: the target is pretty popular as far as such articles go, receiving about 250 views each day. The redirect L. ferox, on the other hand, barely gets a single view once a month |L._ferox. – Uanfala (talk) 21:47, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. If a disambiguation page is likely to be unmaintainable then this should be deleted. No objection to someone writing that DAB page in the future if they want to though. User:GKFXtalk 10:23, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, not because a dab is not feasible, but per Uanfala, that abbreviated binomials are not searched for. Jay  💬 02:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Cut
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 02:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:Cut → Template:Trim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect title does not make it at all clear what the target is; the operation in question is called either "trim" or "strip", not "cut". No evidence that it has ever been deliberately used. All incoming links Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Cut refer to a previously deleted template and the one transclusion doesn't do anything so appears to be in error. User:GKFXtalk 21:16, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Rank and file (chess)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Rank and file (chess)

Brassière or bra
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Brassière or bra

When I get older, I will be stronger
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  by  per G7. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:46, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="When I get older, I will be stronger">When I get older, I will be stronger → Wavin' Flag (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag">They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag → Wavin' Flag (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very infrequently used redirects from lyrics that are not mention in the article. When I get older, I will be stronger had 40 total pageviews in 2021 and They'll call me freedom, just like a Wavin' Flag had 42. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Had forgotten about these two old redirects. With lots of lyric sites now on the web they're not needed and really not encyclopedic as notable snippets. Thanks, Facts707 (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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Afen
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Afen

Charles III of England (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Charles III of England (disambiguation)

Teething troubles (figurative)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 20:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Teething troubles (figurative)">Teething troubles (figurative) → wiktionary:teething troubles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirected to Wiktionary as a result of Articles for deletion/Teething troubles (figurative) in 2015, but, similar to Tavix' comments there, I don't really follow the logic for a redirect. It is not a plausible search term now any more than it was 7 years ago.  points to Teething, and the Wiktionary hatnote there suffices to help anyone looking for the figurative usage. The single backlink, at New South Wales C38 class locomotive, can be bypassed. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 11:36, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per seven-years-ago me. In fact, I'd go so far to say that any word or phrase with a disambiguator would fail the criteria for Wiktionary redirects because they are not natural search terms. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:37, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Removed the backlink from New South Wales C38 class locomotive, the "figurative" usage was not relevant to the article. However, I don't think that link was responsible for the 1200+ views the redirect has in the last 7 years. The AfD had said, so someone has been cleaning up the links or piping directly to wikt per suggestion of seven-year-ago Tavix. Jay  💬 13:50, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Anno reparatae salutis humanae
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Anno reparatae salutis humanae

Military expert
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:15, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Military expert → Singapore Armed Forces ranks (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ambiguous term, certainly could apply to other places. The term is used hundreds of times in the encyclopedia, few have anything to do with Singapore. Delete as confusing. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 05:08, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom unless there is a general article to redirect to. Seems to be WP:ASTONISH to redirect to a specific Singapore article. Natg 19 (talk) 09:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per Natg 19, I don't think users would expect to arrive at that article if they searched "Military expert" – DirkJandeGeer <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(5deg);middle:-.57em;">щи 22:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. A7V2 (talk) 07:57, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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July 4 1894
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to 1894. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:39, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * July 4 1894 → Newlands Resolution (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While this exact date isn't directly mentioned in the target, it is the date of the establishment of the Republic of Hawaii. I personally doubt that most dates are exactly logical search terms (stuff like December 7, 1941 and January 6, 2021 are exceptions, not the rule), and as there's some lack of clarity as to if the Republic of Hawaii, the 1897 event it currently targets, or a section of Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom is the most optimal target, deletion may be best here. Hog Farm Talk 02:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 04:58, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Rename to July 4, 1894 without redirect ,for lack of comma after 4. Then redirect to Republic of Hawaii  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 07:28, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This date is mentioned at 1894 and July 4. Is one of those a better target than the other? Or would it be best to delete it as ambiguous? - Eureka Lott 15:48, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Not ambiguous, it's just that there are two possible targets for most dates. If they contain the same information and link to each other, there is no reason to prefer one over the other, but the similar redirects I checked target the year. Peter James (talk) 20:57, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:26, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to 1894 (no objection to inserting the missing comma, as User:AngusWOOF suggests) to make this align with most other redirects from individual dates. My initial research matches User:Peter James' findings, and makes me think that it could be beneficial to create a r from date rcat. - Eureka Lott 22:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to 1894 seems most appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 20:06, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Little Peeps
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Little people. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:09, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Little Peeps → Vyond (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The proper name for this theme is Lil' Peepz according to the target page. Should this spelling still exist? Also while Lil' Peepz refers to the the Vyond theme, Little Peeps seems like an ambiguous term. I suggest a retarget to Little people, the disambiguation page, and listing Lil' Peepz on that page. Colgatepony234 (talk) 03:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:25, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Little people per Colgatepony234 174.27.66.83 (talk) 03:54, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete searches point to children-themed businesses and organizations. Also confusion with Lil Peep. If it were Little Peepz then it's clearly an attempt to find the Vyond media.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep and retarget to Little people. 174.27.66.83 (talk) 08:57, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mud hen
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Mud hen

Gem corn
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 4%23Gem corn