Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 7

November 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 7, 2022.

Whet
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Sharpening stone. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 01:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Whet → WHET (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this is a WP:DIFFCAPS situation. The primary meaning of "whet", capitalized thusly, is a synonym for "sharpen". I suggest we retarget to Sharpening stone (target of '), with hatnotes''' on both that page and the current target. The hatnote at Sharpening stone could potentially also link to whet. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 23:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget as suggested by the nominator. I would expect the lowercase to point to the primary topic, not a regional radio station. – Scyrme (talk) 18:14, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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War never changes
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 25%23War never changes

Monster Thickburger
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  AGAIN. There's no agreement here to change the outcome of the previous discussion, neither to delete the redirect nor to create a separate list of products; so closing this as "no consensus" once more seems to be the right call. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:11, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Monster Thickburger → Hardee's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers without finding any information about these topics. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 18:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 00:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. A three-week discussion about this closed four days ago, what on earth makes you think spending any more time on this now is a good idea? Thryduulf (talk) 21:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:BEBOLD and add a section, a blurb, something about the Monster Thickburger on the article. I would if I knew anything about it. MightyArms (talk) 21:07, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If the information is never added to the article, this response doesn't address any reason why the redirect should be kept while the target article is in its current form. Steel1943  (talk) 03:37, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per me in the previous discussion. In all fairness, the previous discussion closed to "no consensus", so a new discussion so soon isn't disallowed, especially considering that it was part of a bulk nomination. Steel1943  (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, noting the previous RFD, this redirect is a R with history, but I do not think the article hiding under the history would survive a WP:AFD. Steel1943  (talk) 03:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Is it a good idea to create a separate list of products? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * In the previous RfD, I only mentioned that Melcous removed content, but did not provide the diff. For the benefit of, the content (including about thickburgers) that was removed.  Jay  💬 17:58, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Maybe we could use that information to create a List of Hardee's products page, similar to comparable pages listing McDonald's and Burger King products. Then we could retarget this to the new page. MightyArms (talk) 18:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Xenia (Emulator)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:22, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Xenia (Emulator)">Xenia (Emulator) → Xbox 360 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Xenia (emulator)">Xenia (emulator) → Xbox 360 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the article. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:37, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment See Articles for deletion/Xenia (emulator), where the consensus to turn this title into a redirect to the current target was initially established. That is not to say that said consensus cannot change here, of course, just drawing everyone's attention to the historical record. <small style="font-size:80%;">silviaASH <small style="font-size:75%;">(User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) (inquire within)  16:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In my opinion this should’ve been deleted, not redirected. There was no point in redirecting to the article as no mention of the emulator was added. Plus most of the votes in the discussion voted deletion instead of redirecting so the deletion closer probably should have deleted the redirect instead of redirecting and not adding a mention to the article. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 22:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Not mentioned at Xbox 360 and there's no significant coverage so it probably won't ever get mentioned. Woodroar (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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The good breast
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14%23The good breast

Kandiss Taylor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14%23Kandiss Taylor

PlayStation 5 Pro
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 03:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * PlayStation 5 Pro → PlayStation 5 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. There have been no official announcements about a pro version of the PS5 plus it has been only two years since the release of the PS5. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 21:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:CRYSTAL. Steel1943  (talk) 21:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep while we aren't a crystal ball, it is a reasonable search term in that there is speculation that a pro version will be released. We don't have to give much discussion about it but we should have it. --M asem (t) 21:24, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Do we have the sourcing to say anything about it though? As far as I've seen, there's not even credible rumors about it... Sergecross73   msg me  21:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm familiar with the PlayStation line of products, and there has been essentially no talk of such a product even being thought of yet. Just because the previous generation had such a naming scheme for a product (PlayStation 4 Pro) doesn't mean it's going to carry on. Anything online right now is just a rumor. Steel1943  (talk) 23:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: WP:CRYSTAL while the 4 Pro did exist there was no Pro for PS1–3 so we aren't sure there will be one for 5. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 21:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - As far as I'm aware, there's been no meaningful reliable source coverage/discussion on a pro model to warrant inclusion in the article. Open to recreation if/when that changes though. Sergecross73   msg me  21:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: I view it as a predictable search. Incorrect searches should still go to a relevant subject. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * How do we fix this then though. What sources and content would we add to make this make sense to a general reader. Unless it's a basic misspelling, it shouldn't be left unexplained to the reader like this. Sergecross73   msg me  18:35, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Readers searching for this term are most likely looking for a product that is nonexistent, has not even been announced, and is not mentioned in the target page. To me, this is a blaring obvious trifecta of problems with this redirect existing at the present time and is the very essence of why this is a WP:CRYSTAL problem. Steel1943  (talk) 19:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, and having no article is a pretty good clue that it does not exist and there has been no official comment as such. LessHeard vanU (talk) 17:17, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Jontesta (talk) 20:28, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Talamh an Éisc agus Labradar
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14%23Talamh an Éisc agus Labradar

High-residue diet
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14%23High-residue diet

Anasayfa
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Editors advocating delete have a modest numerical majority, as well as stronger arguments regarding the encyclopedia's usability for readers, as opposed to editors. Arguments for keep are largely grounded in WP:CHEAP, but the asserted harmlessness of the redirect has been challenged by editors in the delete camp. signed,Rosguill talk 16:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Anasayfa → Main Page (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Foreign-language redirect to article not associated with that language - see WP:RFFL. Lithopsian (talk) 16:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The main page is surely not an article, despite its namespace. This is a navigational redirect created by an editor to help themself. I really don't see any problem with this.  J947  † edits 00:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * i literally wrote this in my first edit, and yet you are trying to delete it: """"Anasayfa means main page in turkish. in turkish wikipedia our page named "anasayfa".. and when i change URL with en instead tr, i hoped there will be .. anyway you got it.. dont delete it please. https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa"""" modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 07:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * https:// en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page --> https:// tr .wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page : good 🥰🥰🥰 😁😁😁
 * https:// tr .wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa --> https:// en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasayfa : bad 🥵🥵🥵😭😭😭 modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 07:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Notice that ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ --> Anasayfa doesn't exist; even though ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ is the Main Page of mywiki, nor would I expect it too. — xaosflux  Talk 16:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde!Franklin! 16:08, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sorry but we can't (shouldn't) have redirects from foreign language translations to the English Wikipedia main page. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * For you modern_primat, whenever you come to any English Wikipedia page, existing or not existing, you will see the Wikipedia logo at the top left, which on clicking takes you directly to the main page. It is not much to do. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is the English Wikipedia not the Turkish Wikipedia and we dont have redirects for other languages for the main page Qwv (talk) 11:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, then we should delete the "main page" in turkish wikipedia too? you are wrong! modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 12:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's up to them. The literal string  has special significance as it is the default page name in the software, which just happens to be written in English. —  xaosflux  Talk 16:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep It's getting approximately 20 page views per day, indicating (to me at least) that it's being used by more than just Modern Primat. If it's useful enough that Modern Primat created it and others are using it, it seems mostly harmless and we should ignore it in the spirit of WP:IAR. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 13:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the precedent at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 6. — xaosflux  Talk 16:01, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ;(, nobody get harm from it...... dont delete it, pls.....
 * modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 11:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * if "anasayfa" got deleted, im gonna start deletion for "main page" in turkish side then! modern_primat ඞඞඞ TALK 11:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What happens in Turkish Wikipedia is none of our (English Wikipedia's) business. So, feel free to start a deletion discussion there if you want to. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 18:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I absolutely do not see a problem. In fact, having foreign language redirects is a useful thing. I make use of them all the time when I don't want to guess the foreign term on another language WP (e.g. in template space); it mostly works typing in the English term to get to where I want to go. Can't see a problem with non-English speakers doing the same on the English WP.  Schwede 66  00:59, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This is classis WP:FORRED; the main page has no affinity for any languages. Also per Xaosflux. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: Seems useful to some and absolutely harmless to everyone else (until or unless we actually need an article with this title). WP:FORRED doesn't speak directly to this and isn't an actual policy anyway. I appreciate it when other language wikipedias include this kind of redirect (e.g. "Template:" for "Vorlage:" on de.wiki), so can see how this might be helpful for others (although, who actually finds anything useful on the main page? ) . Furius (talk) 12:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Furius, all default namespace names always work, even when the namespace is given an alternate name on a given wiki. For example, "Project:" always works here and on Commons, although the Project namespace has been renamed "Wikipedia:" here and "Commons:" on Commons.  "Category:", "Portal talk:", "Gadget:", "Template:", etc. will all work on all foreign-language wikis, including German.  175.39.61.121 (talk) 17:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I don't think that changes the fact that it's useful. Furius (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete people may think it takes them to the tr main page.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: WP:RLOTE is a hard argument to apply here in my view as I think there is an affinity between the name of the main page on any other given wikipedia to Main Page as, in my view, different language Wikipedias inherently are related to each other. While this would not be appropriate for all pages, for a page as universal as the main page, I think an affinity to all other languages with wikipedias is fair. Also, it's a WP:CHEAP redirect that does seem to get some usage. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 21:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Imo, if it is kept, it should instead be a soft redirect to Turkish Wikipedia mainpage. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 13:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the precedent at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 6, as well as WP:FORRED which explains why such redirects can be considered harmful since the target page neither has affinity with the language of the redirect nor is a page in the Wikipedia of the same language as this redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 21:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, term not mentioned at the target. Definitely WP:COSTLY, looking at the number of redirects in different languages that had to be listed and deleted during the previous RfD. enwiki has more articles and more readership, and doesn't have to follow the conventions of how other language wikis redirect to their main page. Keeping this will set a wrong precedent encouraging other language redirects without mention to the main page again, which will be a maintenance problem for English language editors. Jay  💬 03:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I promise this isn't to be contrarian, but how would this cause a maintenance problem? <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 22:51, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The premise is that there's nothing special here about Turkish (or the main page). There are several thousand languages in the world (a few hundred of which have wikipedias) and an arbitrarily large number of articles or project pages to redirect to. If the redirect Anasayfa is appropriate, then a very, very large number of other redirects become appropriate, and trying to create or maintain them would be a nightmare. – Uanfala (talk) 23:00, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * If someone created redirects like אָנהייב בלאַט, эхлэх хуудас,  or ទំព័រចាប់ផ្តើម, validating them would be an effort because I would have to find out what language it is, what is the literal English translation, and whether in the context of the language, it really means main page. Whereas if the terms were mentioned at the Main Page (or any corresponding target) this would no longer be a redirect validation problem, but a task for the editors of that target. As for this discussion, we know that the Main Page is not going to have mention of the translated term in every language of the world.  Jay  💬 02:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is a redirect from a reader-facing namespace to a reader-facing page, so the logic in WP:RLOTE absolutely applies. A Turkish speaker stumbling upon this redirect may assume that they can similarly use Turkish terms to search for other project pages or for articles, and that would be a problem. – Uanfala (talk) 21:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
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Teaching
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15%23Teaching

Irisis
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Iris (plant). Legoktm (talk) 16:24, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Irisis → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target; another split off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 with the same caveats. Any past article history does not need to be restored because Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle found the entire series non-notable so individual plot points can't possibly be notable. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde!Franklin! 00:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment this seems to be a not uncommon misspelling of "irises", always in the sense of Iris (flower). Thryduulf (talk) 11:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Additional potential targets suggested in the final comment before relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Iris (plant) as a plausible misspelling. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If we are looking at the misspelling, then we also have a Vincent van Gogh painting and a screen. Jay  💬 16:49, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Mark twain
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawing as there is no opposition to not prolong something that will be unlikely to gain consensus to retarget. (non-admin closure) <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Mark twain → Mark Twain (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This will very likely result in a keep, but if there is consensus WP:DIFFCAPS matters in this instance, then Depth sounding might be a more appropriate target. If not then, keeping makes sense. I do acknowledge there is a Mark Twain (disambiguation) at which that is listed, but this is the only "mark twain" instead of "Mark Twain" at the DAB. Please feel free to liberally WP:SNOW keep if that's where the result is headed. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Urgh... I was going to suggest a refine towards Mark Twain? It's on the same article readers are looking for, and discusses two mark twains. But then I had a little squizz at the pageviews, and... nah. No way. Roughly 2 of those readers were looking for the depth sounding phrase.  J947  † edits 19:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Snow keep. Readers who search for "Mark twain" are highly unlikely to be looking for the depth sounding term. I've just created the redirect Mark twain (depth sounding) for the rare case where one might be looking for that very specific content. Pichpich (talk) 19:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The current article's hatnote serves the purpose on redirecting to depth sounding. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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MCDLXXXVIII
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Joyous! | Talk 19:56, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * MCDLXXXVIII → 1488 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Probably qualifies for '''G5. Creations by banned or blocked users''': created by a sockpuppet that's been globally locked for engaging in cross-wiki abuse. Given the nature of their vandalism and the well-known dog-whistle 1488, this was obviously created in bad faith. However, putting it up for discussion in case anyone feels it is legitimately useful. I do not. Theknightwho (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: Per WP:G5 <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:40, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, also seems implausible. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Quite suspicious when through  are all non existent but this one is created given the number in mention.  <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * As an aside, if we do decide delete (which seems likely), I think we should probably disable page creation due to the potential for abuse. Theknightwho (talk) 18:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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Super Mario 64 DS Versions
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 15%23Super Mario 64 DS Versions

Wii kart
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Wii kart → Mario Kart Wii (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could refer to any other kart racing game on the Wii such as M&M's Kart Racing. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - I'm less concerned about the nominator's concern about alluding to multiple subjects, and more concerned about the fact that I don't believe it was particularly used to refer to any of them. Sergecross73   msg me  18:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If there were a List of racing games on the Wii I’d redirect to there however since that doesn’t seem to exist then I’ll suggest deletion. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's really no precedent for "List of (genre) games on (platform)", and I feel an attempt of one would probably be deleted as redundant to the main ones (in this case, List of Wii games) so I don't think that's a viable option. Sergecross73   msg me  19:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. by default on nintendo platforms, "kart" refers to "mario kart". and "wii kart" means "the version of mario kart that was released for the wii". M&M kart is not a first party game, and is nowhere near as popular as nintendo's kart franchise. it is not a source of ambiguity for the name. -lethe talk [ +] contribs 20:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * For the record, over the span of the last 5 years, this has averaged 0 views per day. This is simply not a term people are using. Sergecross73   msg me  21:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Ambiguous. Steel1943  (talk) 22:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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IPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus
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Waluigi in Super Mario 64 DS
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Waluigi in Super Mario 64 DS → Super Mario 64 DS (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of Waluigi inside the article. I assume that there used to be a section inside the article relating to the theories relating to unlocking Waluigi in SM64DS. It also isn’t mentioned inside of reliable sources either. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 17:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I imagine this was deleted from the article as soon as it was attempted to be added, as it wasn't a common rumor/misconception that reliable sources would cover. The creator seemed to make a lot of questionable redirects too, for what its worth... Sergecross73   msg me  18:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: No mention of this inside the article and no chance it would be re-added based on verifiable research. Jontesta (talk) 20:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Coconut Mall theme
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Coconut Mall theme → Mario Kart Wii (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Coconut Mall itself is mentioned in the article however the theme song isn’t. Most sources that I see are most likely unreliable due to them being fansites. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 17:34, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as the theme itself is undiscussed -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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List of Characters and Races of Mario Kart Wii
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * List of Characters and Races of Mario Kart Wii → Mario Kart Wii (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is unlikely that someone will search a list of both characters and races. The article also doesn’t mention a list of races nor does reliable sources. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 17:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Rename to List of Characters in Mario Kart Wii + Remove Redirect as this list could have usage. PerryPerryD  Talk To Me 17:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not how that works, considering the scope of the subject defined by the current title of the redirect is not the same scope of the subject defined by the new proposed title. If you want the "new" title to exist, feel free to create it (though the "Characters and vehicles" section doesn't contain a complete list of characters, so even that may be considered misleading.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:GAMECRUFT guidance makes it unlikely that any such list would stay in an article. Sergecross73   msg me  18:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:VGSCOPE. A list of characters and/or races would just be better left for the Mario wikis. Regards, SONIC 678 17:26, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Though the target article has a "characters" section, it is unclear what "races" is meant to refer; thus, the redirect's title could be seen as misleading. Steel1943  (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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Double Dash technique
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Double Dash technique → Mario Kart: Double Dash (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article doesn’t mention anything related to a “ Double Dash technique”. The only “technique” the article lists is the Power Drift Technique. Google only shows random techniques that people have made. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Lack of mention in the article aside, the actual "technique" is minor, has no notable coverage, and no one would search for this. The redirect itself has only 121 page views since 2015. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Thomas. Sergecross73   msg me  18:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:08, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Unlikely search term that isn't mentioned in the article. Jontesta (talk) 20:24, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mario kart:Double dash!! characters
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Mario Kart 64 Figures
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The Invincibubble
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Mr. Superawesomeness
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Sour Note
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Sir Pinch-a-Lot
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P92
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 * The result of the discussion was move the disambiguation page over the redirect  . (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 18:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * P92 → P92 (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This had directed to List of national roads in Latvia which is the only thing called primarily just P92. I think that redirect should be restored as the WP:Primary topic <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 14:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The Biblical papyrus (Papyrus 92) and at least one of the aircraft (Boulton Paul P.92) also have possibilities as the primary meaning.  Without evidence that one topic is definitely primary, the dab page is the best target. Tevildo (talk) 19:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If what the person above is saying is true then I think we should Move P92 (disambiguation) to P92. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 22:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Move P92 (disambiguation) to P92, I don't see the previous target as being a primary topic. Absent that, retarget redirect back to List of national roads in Latvia by default per WP:MALPLACED, as the base name should not be a redirect to a page with parenthetical disambiguation. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I would support a Move of P92 (disambiguation) to P92. An unscientific Google search indicates that, if there's a primary topic, it's Tecnam P92, but the term is still ambiguous. Tevildo (talk) 08:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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Foreign language redirects to Hungary
<span id="Hungría"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 14%23Foreign language redirects to Hungary

Nadiril
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Nadiril → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not mentioned at the target and there is nothing that is similar to the word "Nadiril" Roostery123 (talk) 03:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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Isle of Noom
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:24, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Isle of Noom → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not mentioned at the target and there is no island named "Noom" Roostery123 (talk) 03:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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I.Z. aka IDzeroNo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:27, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I.Z. aka IDzeroNo → Grand Hustle Records (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparent self-promotional redirect for someone no longer mentioned at target. See also Sockpuppet investigations/Simplystart. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 01:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. It is very unlikely promotional search term Roostery123 (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget to Lil Wayne singles discography. Jay  💬 02:29, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unnecessary self-promotional redirect. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Llian
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gwenllian.  Jay  💬 05:19, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Llian → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Gwenllian as a nickname. Add see also to Lian (disambiguation), Lilian and  Ilian (starts with I)  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Gwenllian per AngusWOOF Roostery123 (talk) 03:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gwenllian per AngusWOOF -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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