Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 13

October 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 13, 2022.

List of Sao Paulo´s sister towns
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * List of Sao Paulo´s sister towns → São Paulo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The acute accent (´) in the title makes it a highly improbably search term. TartarTorte 23:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. If every possessive page name is given a redirect with this accent, it would get costly pretty quickly. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  14:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per UNNATURAL. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible mispunctuation. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:34, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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World's Edge Island
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  World's Edge Island and retarget Faraway Island to Annika Thor with a hatnote. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 00:22, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * World's Edge Island → Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Faraway Island → Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Non notable fictional place. This Island was actually a part of an event exclusive to Japan where you could get an item and you could use that item to go to the World’s Edge Island to get a free Mew. Not mentioned in article and no reliable sources to warrant a mention. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 16:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: I’ll also include Faraway Island since it is just a different name for World's Edge Island. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 16:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:10, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Faraway Island is the title of a book by Annika Thor. Thryduulf (talk) 18:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * And also a book by Elizabeth Jordan. Jay  💬 17:04, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment Would it be appropriate to DAB Faraway Island based on the comments above? We don't have articles for the novels, but both novels are mentioned in the authors' articles. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it would just be better to redirect since Faraway Island isn’t mentioned in the Pokémon article. Pizzaplayer219Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 22:38, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Plus they’re just minor mentions in the author articles. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 22:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * redirect to where? Jay  💬 03:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I ment Retarget to Annika Thor but I just saw the mention of Elizabeth Jordan but you can do whatever. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 12:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget Faraway Island to Annika Thor and put a hatnote there to Elizabeth Jordan. Delete World's Edge Island, not mentioned anywhere in Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:15, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Shhhnotsoloud and PizzaPlayer and hatnote to Elizabeth Jordan. A Google search for '"Faraway Island" -Pokemon' gives more results for the Annika Thor book although it's an English translation from Swedish. enwiki has more mentions of Faraway Island (a music composition and an episode), but I would see them as minor for disambiguation entries. Delete World's Edge Island. Jay  💬 11:05, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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World's fastest rubix solver
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Speedcubing. Basically a keep, but refined to the World records section. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:32, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * World's fastest rubix solver → Speedcubing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

See Talk:World's fastest rubix solver. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:31, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per WP:CHEAP <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 14:07, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, possibly refine to the World records section. Seems like a plausible search term and the target article contains the information someone using it is looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 14:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Refine to Speedcubing which lists the world's fastest rubix cube solvers. A7V2 (talk) 03:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Game hacks
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 21%23Game hacks

Northern Tavria
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Pokémon: Tenth Anniversary
<span id="Pokémon: Tenth Anniversary"> <span id="Pokémon 10th Anniversary Tour"> <span id="Pokémon: Tenth Anniversaary"> Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 22%23Pokémon: Tenth Anniversary

Yinzhen's Quote
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 20%23Yinzhen's Quote

New Nintendo Switch
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 20%23New Nintendo Switch

Wii docking station
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 20%23Wii docking station

Nintendo N5
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DOL-001
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Gamecube technical problems
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 15:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Gamecube technical problems → GameCube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article doesn’t seem to mention any technical problems the GameCube had. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:31, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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Starcube
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdraw  . (non-admin closure) <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 20:31, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Starcube → GameCube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn’t seem to be an alternative name to the target as there is no mention in the article and google only tells me about non notable games. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It was a rumoured name for the system. I have found at least one reliable source discussing the rumours in significant detail and based on that article it appears to have been a really popular rumour at the time []. It may be worth a mention.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 13:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - mentioned at: "The console's succession of codenames was N2000,[15] Star Cube, and Nintendo Advance.[16] " -- ‡ El cid, el campeador talk  13:41, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per El cid. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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NPDP Gamecube
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  14:12, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * NPDP Gamecube → GameCube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect seems to refer to a developer version of the GamCube but there is no mention of redirect in the article. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:25, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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Dolphin OS
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 20%23Dolphin OS

Bosnie-Herzégovine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Delete per WP:FORRED. Languages of Bosnia and Herzegovina indicates no affinity between the target and the French language. Thryduulf (talk) 13:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <span id="Bosnie-Herzégovine">Bosnie-Herzégovine → Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bosnie-Herzegovine → Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
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Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive1
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:15, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive1">Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive1 → Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive1">Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive1 → Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The talk page archive is Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina/Archive 1 (with a space) and dates from September 2007 when it was created at the title without a space by user:Esemono who created the article space redirect at the same time as archiving the talk page. In February 2008 the talk archived was moved to the title with a space, leaving a redirect. That redirect was "corrected" by a bot in April 2009 to match the article space redirect. The article space redirect should be deleted. The talk page redirect should either be deleted or retargetted to where the first talk page archive actually is (I'm neutral on that). Thryduulf (talk) 13:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - serves no purpose. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  21:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete the mainspace redirect. Retarget the talk page redirect to the correct archive as R from move. No good reason to nuke that, WP:CHEAP. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - No practical uses for keeping, so delete.  Johnson 524  (Talk!) 03:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Bosnia and Herzegovina: Federation
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska respectively.  .  Jay  💬 14:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Bosnia and Herzegovina: Federation → Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bosnia and Herzegovina: Republika Srpska → Bosnia and Herzegovina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think the top level article about the country is the best place to target, but I'm not sure whether I think the better target would be Political divisions of Bosnia and Herzegovina or the articles about the subdivisions (Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska). Thryduulf (talk) 12:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska respectively: These, at least in my view, seem to be an alternative attempt at disambiguation so I think they should just target the respective regions. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska respectively per TartarTorte . I created the original redirects in 2016. I see now that I messed both up and sent them to the overall entity: Bosnia and Herzegovina. See diff. See diff. The reason for the redirects is this World Prison Brief source page for List of countries by incarceration rate. Whenever the list is fully updated around once a year, all the redirects can be in use for a short or long time, depending on the table format, and the editors' decisions over time. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:30, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget as proposed above. The DAB form is a bit unusual but apparently in usage as noted by Timeshifter. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above.  Johnson 524  (Talk!) 03:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Engla
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 05:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Engla → English people (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, Engla is a female given name. Privybst (talk) 11:27, 28 September 2022 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Magdalena Graaf appears to be the only notable person who has this name, but as it's not the one she primarily uses it would be an unlikely search term for her. Thryduulf (talk) 12:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, could possibly be a dab page if we get more articles on people with the name.  Hut 8.5  18:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Engla is the genitive of Engle, the Old English name of the Angles. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What could be the reason this got 400+ daily views for a week in Dec 2019, and going up to 700? It died down by May 2020, but since then it is consistently getting daily views. Jay  💬 15:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: For the suggestions above Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 12:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Anders Eklund (murderer) as a R from given name pending the creation of a given name article.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Setindexify between Graaf and the murder victim. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete, it is unclear what would be sought. I oppose creating a name index, such an index would fail WP:NNAME because the murder victim is not notable in her own right. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:52, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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Three Guys 1 Hammer
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Snuff video title not mentioned at the target; while it was apparently a working theory that the crime were carried out in order to create snuff films, this has apparently been rejected and the target article includes no suggestion that the videos were published online. Deletion seems appropriate unless evidence linking the video to this group criminal bio can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 15:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: There has been participation, and additionally, no opposition to the delete suggestion. However I also sense hesitation in using the delete word. I feel the discussion is incomplete, and there may be more to it for one more relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 03:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 12:31, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Three Guys 1 Hammer → Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3 Guys One Hammer → Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Three Guys One Hammer → Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3 guys 1 hammer → Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 3 Guys 1 Hammer → Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Note I've added another three formulations to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:47, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment the target article mentions the videos extensively and does note they were "leaked" onto the internet ("The video showing the murder of Sergei Yatzenko was leaked to a shock site based in the United States and dated 4 December 2008.") but doesn't mention the title, based on my searches of the talk page archives there doesn't seem to have been any particular discussion about whether to include or exclude it. If the title was mentioned then this would be a good redirect but it isn't without such a mention (the motive, both actual and speculated are not relevant in either case). The title is mentioned twice at Shock site (in the "History" and "Ethics" sections) it's a bit more than a passing mention but not a massive amount more and I'm undecided whether this would be enough to anchor a redirect (and if so, which mention would be better). There is deleted former article content in the history of 3 Guys 1 Hammer that was unsourced, only partially encyclopaedic and speedily deleted under criterion A7 for failing to assert significance, if restored today it would also be speediable under A10. Thryduulf (talk) 16:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It was Encyclopedia Dramatica that christened the video 3 Guys 1 Hammer and the name stuck, but it is not in the article due to a lack of sourcing that would meet WP:V.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:COMMONNAME as I've personally found out about the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs via that specific title and the first search Google result of the title leads to the Wikipedia article. Unless the snuff film itself has 0 notability, I don't see why the redirect should be deleted. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 02:22, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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2008 Summer Tour (Maroon 5 and Counting Crows)
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 * The result of the discussion was restored article  and sent to AfD. Hardly any consensus after three relists, but there seems to be some support for restoring the article and nominating at AfD. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="2008 Summer Tour (Maroon 5 and Counting Crows)">2008 Summer Tour (Maroon 5 and Counting Crows) → Maroon 5 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an WP:XY. They were billed as co-headliners so this tour is about as even in terms of not having a WP:PT as you can get. There's no real benefit to disambiguating here as neither band's article has much on the concert. Either delete per WP:XY or WP:REDYES, but as it stands this redirect is not helpful. I will note, this was BLARred 10 days ago by another user per WP:NTOUR, so if consensus opposes the BLAR, I'm also ok with keep without prejudice to AfD; however, I don't oppose the BLAR myself. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 00:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  02:01, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Tagging as the BLARrer in case they want to share their opinion on this. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 00:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - (and thanks for the ping, I really don't care if this gets deleted or kept.  My issue was with the article, which did not meet WP:NTOUR.  I redirected it the the Maroon 5 page, since it is mentioned there, as opposed to the Counting Crows page, where it is not. I guess putting a #Tours in the redirect would make it more specific.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Restore article and nominate instead to WP:AFD, i'm willing to inform to nominate instead to AFD to wheather decide the co headlining tour article by determining the outcome. --2600:1700:9BF3:220:843E:7CB4:B014:18E9 (talk) 05:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Restore article and send to Afd. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Foreign language redirects to Poland
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 24%23Foreign language redirects to Poland

The Lord
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lord (disambiguation). Legoktm (talk) 00:41, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The Lord → Lord (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Shouldn't this direct to God in Christianity or God in Abrahamic religions? "The Lord" with the definite article obviously most commonly means God as referred to by Christian congregations - is this seriously disputable? This redirect currently links to a section with various general examples of the use of "Lord" (without the definite article) and only very few examples that directly parallel "The Lord" as used in Christianity, in English. The only serious English usage counter-example appears to be in Wiccan religion, but surely this can't seriously rival the Christian usage as primary topic? Iskandar323 (talk) 08:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think the target explains the usage well. It also mentions that Mormonism amongst others refers to Jesus as The Lord. That section could do with links to the two articles mentioned though, preferably in prose but hatnotes could be added if that's not practical. A7V2 (talk) 08:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess I was thinking of Mormonism as part of Christianity, but either way both clearly sit under God in Abrahamic religions. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment There are a book and a song of that name, added dab page and hatnote accordingly. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 14:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've boldly redirected that to Lord (disambiguation). That would warrant another discussion. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Is the Christian God the primary topic? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 09:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. There are any number of characters in fiction that might be referred to in-universe as "The Lord". BD2412  T 17:03, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Examples would be nice. More importantly, do they contradict primary position for the Christian God? <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 20:30, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Lord can also refer to the English Lords and deities of other religions. That's what I first thought about when I saw the nomination. Now, that could be because I come from a not-predominantly-Christian place. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That other meanings exist is not in question. Iskandar23 asserted that the Christian god is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "The Lord". The other meanings are relevant only insofar as they relate to this issue. Otherwise, they are just items to be disambiguated. Which they already are. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 10:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm questioning the belief that Christian God is PTOPIC, though I didn't really feel like casting a !vote here. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lord (disambiguation) where there are several uses. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Lord (disambiguation) per Shhhnotsoloud. 193.37.240.164 (talk) 11:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget Theoretically there is a better chance of somebody finding what they are looking for by redirecting to Lord (disambiguation). Even so, the chances are that "The Lord" is specifically referring to Christianity, and I would not be opposed to retargeting instead to God in Abrahamic religions in the slightest.  Johnson 524  (Talk!) 03:40, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lord (disambiguation) per Shhhnotsoloud et al. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:12, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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Health and disease
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 10:44, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Health and disease → Disease (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:XY. Health and Disease are two separate articles. Steel1943 (talk) 09:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete also per nom.  Johnson 524  (Talk!) 03:37, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Disorder(medical)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 10:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Disorder(medical)">Disorder(medical) → Disease (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to no space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with proper spacing, Disorder (medical), exists and is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 09:04, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:RDAB <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:44, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete same as the above.  Johnson 524  (Talk!) 03:38, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Classic WP:COSTLY. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:21, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Donegal, Ireland
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:07, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Donegal, Ireland">Donegal, Ireland → Donegal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think that the most reasonable location to route this would be to County Donegal, given that the disambiguation form appears to suggest that the person typing this is looking for the geographic location. As such, I propose that we retarget to County Donegal. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:57, 29 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It seems equally likely that someone is looking for Donegal (town) as County Donegal (for Irish people the town is probably more likely) so best to keep this targetted at the dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 00:14, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Donegal (town). Most "Foo, Country" redirects usually target the town/city not the county, eg Durham, England, Carlow, Ireland, Galway, Ireland, Kilkenny, Ireland, Limerick, Ireland, Sligo, Ireland Waterford, Ireland, Wexford, Ireland, Wicklow, Ireland (but not Cork, Ireland or Roscommon, Ireland). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep target to Donegal (disambiguation) as R from partial disambiguation / R from ambiguous term -- per Thryduulf -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 08:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: While there has been no support for the nominated suggestion, there is also no agreement between keeping at the current disambiguated target, and re-targetting to the town. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 05:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf et al. Skynxnex (talk) 23:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose if anything it would probably be the town.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:35, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Donegal (town) per Shhhnotsoloud. Why should Donegal be treated differently than other towns in Ireland? Is there any indication that County Donegal is somehow more notable than County Wickford or County Galway? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:56, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Thryduulf and others. Much better to keep this pointing at the DAB, as to provide readers with multiple options which they can choose from. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Targeting the county article would be surprising given the format ("Place, Country" normally goes to cities, not bigger units). Targeting the town is not optimal either: the link to the town on the dab page gets 3x less clicks than the link to the county, so it's quite unlikely the county is what most readers want. – Uanfala (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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