Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 23

October 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 23, 2022.

Daco-Romania
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 17:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Daco-Romania → Romania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not sure what's best for this redirect as the term is not used in the target article. Daco-Roman begins with "Daco-Roman describes the Romanized culture of Dacia under the rule of the Roman Empire." and "Daco-Roman" is used in the Antquity and Middle Ages sections of Romania and in the Origin of the Romanians article. Daco-Romanian is a term used in comparative linguistics that is covered at Romanian language where it redirects. Two articles on Wikipedia do use the exact term, the first is a list entry at Dumitru Berciu and this book is reponsible for almost all the google hits. the second is Sextil Pușcariu in the sentence "he founded Daco-Romania magazine", elsewhere in the article (and in other articles) a magazine by the name Dacoromania is mentioned several times, but Dacoromania is a redlink here and at ro.wp. Thryduulf (talk) 12:12, 9 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde State your case (please use&#32; on reply) 16:11, 16 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:50, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Daco-Romanian is the name that the Romanian language receives when Romanian linguists discuss Eastern Romance languages as a whole. They believe Aromanian, Megleno-Romanian and Istro-Romanian are dialects of Romanian and thus refer to Romanian proper as Daco-Romanian to differentiate it. "Daco-Romania" is just the country of the Daco-Romanian-speakers (the Daco-Romanians), if following the same terminology. Super   Ψ   Dro  12:35, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I see the logic, but that doesn't address the term not being used at the target article nor there being no apparent reliable sources that use the term in this manner to support a mention there. It also doesn't reflect that it is used in at least one other context (the book). Thryduulf (talk) 13:55, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The book is evidence of the existence of the term or that the same logic I applied was also applied by notable scholars with articles in this website. If the book was to get an article, we could disambiguate it by titling it Daco-Romania (book). Super   Ψ   Dro  16:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. If Daco-Romania refers to a place, we have no information on enwiki about it. I don't find it useful to retarget to the target of Daco-Romanian, which, while has mentions of geographical areas of the speakers of the language, doesn't say that Daco-Romania is or was a region that referred to those places. Targetting to Dumitru Berciu will just be confusing. Jay  💬 10:47, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't seem to be a real term and anyone entering it in the search box will get both Daco-Roman and Daco-Romanian as suggestions. Furius (talk) 12:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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Helena (empress)
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Whoop whoop pull up
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 17:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Whoop whoop pull up → Ground proximity warning system (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a plausible search term on Wikipedia, and one which could refer to multiple articles. QueenofBithynia (talk) 23:30, 16 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 23:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support This redirect is not used by any page in mainspace. Dolphin ( t ) 23:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm split on this because it is a joke redirect, but it seems to unambiguously refer to the GPWS. My thought for whether or not this should be kept is whether it's feasible someone would see this term without the context of GPWS being there as well and want a definition for this and if they'd search this specific term on wikipedia. It gets some pageviews, but not a ton. It's a bit of a flip of a coin. TartarTorte 01:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd tend to think people searching for the system (say, from seeing it in a movie) would be more likely to search "pull up" - which does gets them to the article - before this version with the onomatopoeia. And if they looked here first and it didn't exist, surely they'd look for plain "pull up" after. —Cryptic 02:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's a pretty solid point. I think I'm leaning delete per Cryptic's reasoning. Tartar</b>Torte 12:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as unambiguous, harmless and well used (114 hits last year for example). There is no benefit to deletion and, given that people are using it, potential harm in doing so. Thryduulf (talk) 09:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. Mdewman6 (talk) 17:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep it's a search term that can be plausibly used by someone who does not know the terminology of GPWS. CapitalSasha ~ talk 04:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to User:Whoop whoop pull up. (joke)  175.39.61.121 (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Seconded. /jk &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:37, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thirded. Some airplane thingy? Never heard of it. Wikipedia user? Heard of them. Clearly the main topic. <span id="ClydeFranklin:1666668204839:WikipediaFTTCLNRedirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_October_23" class="FTTCmt"> — Clyde!Franklin! 03:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf and CapitalSasha. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 13:32, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Amusing onomatopoeia though it may be, I can't see a reason for deletion as it certainly isn't misleading and seems to be a redirect actually used by the lay readers so I'm happy for people to whoop and pull up to their heart's content here.  The C of E God Save the King!  ( talk ) 09:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Russian intervention in Ukrainian civil war
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Underpass
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Tunnel. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:14, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Underpass → Subway (underpass) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This had redirected to Tunnel. The current target is specifically about a passageway for pedestrians or (bicycles). An underpass is really a general term that could pass a sidewalk/pathway/road/railway/canal/pipeline/wildlife corridor/etc. under another. I think the prior target should be restored. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 20:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. There is already a hatnote there to the current target. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hooked On Love
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Acting the goat
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to act the goat. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 17:54, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Acting the goat → Professor Calculus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was surprised and confused to land on this redirect to a seemingly unrelated page. There is a paragraph on the phrase, but Professor Calculus doesn't appear to be the origin of or a particularly prominent use of the phrase (though I couldn't find much about it elsewhere on Wikipedia.) tbodt (talk) 17:10, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, as a Tintin fan: this is the sort of common, idiomatic phrase where a retarget to Wiktionary (act the goat) may be in order. It is important to note that Calculus is especially associated with this present continuous tense of the phrase.  J947  † edits 00:31, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Soft Retarget - This should go to Wiktionary, as stated above. As a fan of the series as well, I know that the words are strongly associated with that character, but they also certainly predate his creation. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:29, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Anasayfa
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Borg (fabric)
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  13:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Borg (fabric)">Borg (fabric) → Polar fleece (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:12, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Ibrahim Habibullah
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Ibrahim Habibullah → Enaith Habibullah (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:10, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I was just looking at the same redirect.  I tried in vain to find references anywhere that support this alternate name, or even as a related name (of a relation?).  There are a couple of mentions out there, but these all appear to be traceable to an old version of the Wikipedia page.  See the history for a comment when the page was moved that the name is erroenous.  Lithopsian (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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The lettuce
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Makataan
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Watermelon. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 15:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Makataan → Citron melon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * According to makataan, this is a word in South African English which Wiktionary defines as "watermelon"; thus it would make sense for it to redirect somewhere. I don't know enough to know exactly what kind of melon it should redirect to. CapitalSasha ~ talk 13:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Watermelon where I added a cited entry for this term -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:33, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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You aren't dead 'til you're warm and dead
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  13:46, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * You aren't dead 'til you're warm and dead → Hypothermia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've added a mention to the target. It's a common saying about the phenomenon discussed in Hypothermia, and someone searching for it wouldn't necessarily be aware of where on Wikipedia it is discussed. CapitalSasha ~ talk 13:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per information added by Sasha. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:28, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Embodies
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Embodiment.  ✗  plicit  13:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Embodies → Personification (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary entry. The word is not sufficiently closely related to the current target to warrant a redirect there. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Embodiment as R from avoided double redirect of Embody. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:48, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Embodiment per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:09, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Embodiments
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Embodiment.  ✗  plicit  13:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Embodiments → Personification (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:44, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Embodiment as R from singular. Not a close enough association with the current target to justify a WP:DIFFPLURAL primary redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Embodiment per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:16, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Cossart, Pennsylvania
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 08:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Cossart, Pennsylvania">Cossart, Pennsylvania → Kennett Square, Pennsylvania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

In doing research Cossart might or might not be an actual place or just a name accidentally extrapolated from a railroad station that was there called Cossart (possibly due to Cossart Road which is in the area of the former station) on the Wilmington and Northern Branch. Regardless, what is referred to as Cossart is in Pennsbury Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania, not Kennett Square it seems, but it is not mentioned in either article. It is mentioned in List of places in Pennsylvania: C, and I pressume that comes from GNIS where it is listed as a "Populated Place", but that regularly was applied just to train stations. With no actual mention of it in either place it could be targeted and the only mention of it on Wikipedia is that it exists in List of places in Pennsylvania: C makes me think deletion is the way to go. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:49, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of places in Pennsylvania: C: I still think it may be worthy of a redirect since it's listed on the list of places in PA but you may know better than me if it's an actual place or not  User:Ric36 User talk:Ric36 20:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It indeed seems to be in Pennsbury Township but isn't currently mentioned there. If mentioned and there isn't a different place in Kennett Square then the township would seem a better target than the list but otherwise redirect to the list per Ric36.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:52, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to WP:REDLINK it, in accordance with other places at List of places in Pennsylvania: C that do not have articles. Per the nominator's research, it may be even better to have a more objective inclusion criteria for List of places in Pennsylvania and purge accordingly. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Tavix. These sorts of list articles aren't good targets where they don't contain much information, and possibly shouldn't list places without articles. A7V2 (talk) 03:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to REDLINK it per Tavix. The only other redirect to List of places in Pennsylvania: C is Cookport, Pennsylvania, which can be nominated next. Jay  💬 16:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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LeGM
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Not mentioned in article. Seems to be a slang term. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 01:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * LeGM → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Legm → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Westbrick → Russell Westbrook (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Term used by fans to describe LeBron James' perceived control over the Lakers' Front Office (GM = General Manager), similar to Westbrick for Russell Westbrook or Vinsanity for Vince Carter, both redirects currently in use by Wikipedia. JohnnyYeet (talk) 01:23, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Comment added Westbrick for the same reason. (Vinsanity is listed as a nickname). <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 01:38, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess they could be removed if need be. They aren't very flattering nicknames anyway JohnnyYeet (talk) 02:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Confusing without a mention. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * They are basically joking terms/memes that are commonly used by Lakers fans and haters alike, particularly the use of "Westbrick" by anchors such as Skip Bayless. That being said, Westbrook has frequently expressed his disdain for the "Westbrick" moniker, so I suppose it could be taken down due to being somewhat offensive. That being said, I think keeping LeGM as a meme redirect wouldn't be particularly offensive or harmful. JohnnyYeet (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Speedy delete all under WP:G10 as BLP violations - "Ghost  of  Dan Gurney"   15:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Cáchy
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Akwizgran
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Tom Playford
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Thomas Playford. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 01:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Tom Playford → Thomas Playford IV (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Inconsistency with the formal version of the name, Thomas Playford, which is a disambiguation page. The only scenario where this primary redirect is warranted would be if IV was the only Thomas Playford to be called Tom during his lifetime, which given how common "Tom" is, I doubt. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Thomas Playford. It seems like Tom Playford is more frequently used as a name for Thomas Playford IV than the others, but not enough to be the sole target of the redirect. Alternatively if it's kept, there should probably be a hatnote on Thomas Playford IV for people looking for the others. Dylnuge  (Talk • Edits) 01:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Pretty much what I thought. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:58, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Within South Australia, for at least 60 years, "Tom Playford" has only meant the politician conveniently labelled in Wikipedia as Thomas Playford IV. Elsewhere, it's "Tom who?" Doug butler (talk) 09:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Thomas Playford. If this primarily refers to the current target, then a RM discussion should consider moving it there as the commonname. Having this as a primary redirect doesn't make much sense to me. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Thomas Playford; it is very rarely appropriate for a formal name and a nickname to point to different places. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Quaker City Night Hawks
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  for want of a suitable target.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 09:01, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Quaker City Night Hawks → Rock the Ocean's Tortuga Music Festival (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Quaker City Night Hawks → Leon Bridges (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: ' ]  Added. -- T'''avix  ( talk ) 00:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Originally targeted Leon Bridges, but seems to be distinct from Bridges, although at least part of the band has toured with him if I'm reading what's on the internet right. The current target is a festival the band has played at, and is not a useful target as way too narrow. It's possible there's enough sourcing for an article on this band, but the best thing for now is to delete so that this can become a redlink, as I'm not seeing a single target better than others. Hog Farm Talk 01:26, 9 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Two different proposed retargets. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Clyde State your case (please use&#32; on reply) 04:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: relisting to add The Quaker City Night Hawks to this discussion Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:47, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Retarget - Retarget this and The Quaker City Night Hawks to Leon Bridges, unless an article can be created. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * - What exactly is the connection between Quaker City Night Hawks and Bridges? They aren't mentioned in his article, and searching online didn't indicate any particularly strong connection. Hog Farm Talk 01:46, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Reply - Or redirect to Rock the Ocean's Tortuga Music Festival. --Jax 0677 (talk) 04:22, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not a helpful target either, as the band has a much greater footprint than just one festival. Hog Farm Talk 23:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Reply - Should The Quaker City Night Hawks not be included in this RFD? --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:11, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should, I just didn't realize that that redirect existed as well. Note to closer: both redirects should have the same outcome. Hog Farm Talk 22:01, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete both per nom, both suggested targets are too tenuous. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Matah
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Sambal. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 00:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Matah → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target; another split off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 with the same caveats. Any past article history does not need to be restored because Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle found the entire series non-notable so individual plot points can't possibly be notable. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sambal, which is linked from Template:Indonesian cuisine as "Matah", which matches Matah sambal being by far the primary topic in google. Add a hatnote there to Mataso, an island of Vanuatu for which this is an alternative name. Thryduulf (talk) 11:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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Tiaan
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 00:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Tiaan → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target; another split off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 with the same caveats. Any past article history does not need to be restored because Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle found the entire series non-notable so individual plot points can't possibly be notable. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate this one too, it's also a name (given or diminutive of Christian or Christiaan), so I've started drafting a disambiguation page. Like with my reasoning at the related discussion for "Mariem," it's just not a feasible action to WP:ASTONISH people looking for someone with this name. Regards, SONIC 678 02:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow, I'm impressed by the amount of missing disambiguation pages this little project of mine is finding. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambig per Sonic678. Thryduulf (talk) 11:14, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support dab -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Irisis
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 30%23Irisis

Cryl-Nish Hlar
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 08:58, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Cryl-Nish Hlar → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target; another split off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 with the same caveats. Any past article history does not need to be restored because Articles for deletion/The Three Worlds Cycle found the entire series non-notable so individual plot points can't possibly be notable. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not finding anything other than Three Worlds Cycle-related hits for this. Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Thryduulf's findings.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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