Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 27

October 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 27, 2022.

Lithium compound
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lithium.  Jay  💬 02:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Propose refining to and moving the hatnote up from Inorganic compounds (since many lithium compounds are organic), analogous to. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 00:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Lithium compounds → Lithium (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lithium compound → Lithium (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Touch of IAR, moved this to the 27th so it'd be on the same page as the related nomination, since I filed it just after midnght. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 00:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Refine target and move section hatnote per nom (and my comments below in the salts discussion). Mdewman6 (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Refine target per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:28, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Refine as per above. 141Pr 12:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Lithium salt
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lithium.  Jay  💬 02:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Lithium salt → Lithium (medication) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lithium salts → Lithium (medication) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not all lithium salts are used as medications. I would suggest either a retarget to Category:Lithium salts with hatnote to current target or a retarget to with hatnote to Category:Lithium salts and current target, in either case without prejudice against later listifying to List of lithium salts (or a subsection of a List of lithium compounds). -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 23:45, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to  where there is and move the hatnote Category:Lithium compounds, of which Category:Lithium salts is a sub-category, up from the Inorganic subsection header. A hatnote can be added there to the current target. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Modified my comment pursuant to Tamzin's related proposal above. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Be glorious, our city!
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 15:45, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Be glorious, our city! → Tiraspol (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion, because if it doesnt meet WP:GNG, why not delete it? Just redirecting it to Tiraspol may not be the best idea... While yes it does redirect to Tiraspol, letting them know who the anthem belongs to, but there's no info ON the anthem so there's no point in it! Some could have even called it unrelated! Kxeon (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. GNG is not really a factor for redirects. The target seems to be the only city associated with this anthem, and I see that you have started a draft on the anthem. Either the content can be incoporated into the target, when it is ready, or it can be judged on standalone article status, at which time the redirect can be deleted to make way. Jay  💬 02:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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European discovery
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 5%23European discovery

Renaissance exploration
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Renaissance.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 16:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Renaissance exploration → Age of Discovery (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target subject refers to exploration that happened in the seas and oceans, but to my knowledge, exploration also occurred on the land (exclusive from any sea travel) as well during the renaissance era. In addition, there's no evidence that the redirect was an alternative name for the target subject. In other words, the redirect seems ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 23:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * How about retarget Renaissance, which is again about exploring unknown lands by sea? Which is the exploration on land that you talk about? Jay  💬 01:58, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems to hit the nail on the head. Steel1943  (talk) 02:22, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Maritime discovery
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Maritime discovery

Sergeant Garcia
<span id="Sergeant García"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Sergeant Garcia

Ten Capital News
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to CTC (TV station). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:32, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Ten Capital News → 10 (Southern Cross Austereo) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ten Capital News should redirect to CTC (TV station) because Ten Capital News and former and current names of this news program is mentioned there. Also this redirect was a result of a merge. Bassie f (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. The suggested target will actually contain information on "Ten Capital News". Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 07:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Mariana Mamonova
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  without prejudice against recreation as an article or a redirect to a target that mentions her.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 21:32, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Mariana Mamonova → Armed Forces of Ukraine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target or elsewhere on Wikipedia, internet searches establish that this is the name of a Ukrainian POW held by Russian forces and released in September. She appears to potentially be independently notable (although it would be a WP:PAGEDECIDE situation with respect to the various pages relating to the war), but unless a due mention is added to an existing article, the redirect should be deleted. signed,Rosguill talk 21:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Dürrüşehvar Hanım (figlia di Abdülhamid I)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 21:34, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dürrüşehvar Hanım (figlia di Abdülhamid I)">Dürrüşehvar Hanım (figlia di Abdülhamid I) → Dürrüşehvar Hanım (daughter of Abdülhamid I) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RLOTE case, no affinity between the subject and Italian/Italy. Deletion seems appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 21:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Seems like a redirect left over from a move almost reverted by the mover 4 minutes later, in what I assume was a good faith mistake. With that being said, this isn't a needed remnant of said move. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 15:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Nintendo N5
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Nintendo N5 → Wii (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in article and no reliable sources to warrant a mention. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 15:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure if we need this but it was kept about 4 and half years ago and some reliable sources did use the term at the time Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 22. This was never an official name though and I believe it was used since it was a speculated name for Nintendo’s then unnamed 5th main console.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 13:21, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep. It was commonly used enough that it's a plausible search term. It's not harmful. Skynxnex (talk) 20:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep per 65.92.162.81. It is used in various media sources and it is unambiguous.
 * Roostery123 (talk) 05:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per the old discussion and the use of this term in reliable sources. A7V2 (talk) 02:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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DOL-001
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * DOL-001 → GameCube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Only 2 really minor mentions in the article which doesn’t explain what this model is. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 15:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is mentioned, it is a common (within this space) term so a possible search term, probably can be expanded on in the article, and WP:CHEAP since it's unambiguous. Skynxnex (talk) 01:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Year of Three Prime Ministers
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 * The result of the discussion was setindexfy  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:59, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Year of Three Prime Ministers → 1827 in the United Kingdom (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With Truss' resignation, it seems like this redirect will very likely have multiple targets. I figured pre-empting any retarget and having a discussion about what to do with this redirect at RfD would be a good way to decide. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * While I know it can generally take a while from resignation to new PM, it seems like Truss is saying the new PM will be known in around a week's time, which would still have this well within 2022. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * No mention at the target. Was this an actual term? If not delete as generic. Many countries have prime ministers. Jay  💬 16:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Striking off, but I would support the article to be at something like List of years with three Prime Ministers, although I don't find any lists with this pattern of naming. Jay  💬 02:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambig Google finds uses of the exact phrase relating to 2022 in the UK, 2016 in Croatia , 2013 in Australia , 1868 in the UK . It's too early to say whether this will be a notable epithet for 2022 in the UK but it definitely seems to be for 2013 in Australia and 2016 in Croatia. Thryduulf (talk) 18:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is a notable epithet for Australia and Croatia, at least from the references provided. Jay  💬 11:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Update the October 2022 Conservative Party leadership election has concluded with Rishi Sunak slated to start his term as PM tomorrow, so 2022 in the UK will now almost assuredly be a year of three prime ministers. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @TartarTorte it is now a year of at least three prime ministers - I'm not betting against there being a fourth before 2023. Thryduulf (talk) 21:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf, you know... you're not wrong. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as there are a few countries where this has happened, New Zealand in 1972, 1974, and 1990 being other examples. This is Paul (talk) 16:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW, not in '74.  J947  † edits 01:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: While there appears to be agreement that the current target is not suitable, it's not clear which entries would be appropriate to include, as it is not clear which years have actually been nicknamed "Year of Three Prime Ministers" by sources, regardless of which years could plausibly qualify Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:04, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete unless it can be shown that this specific term is commonly used to refer to one (in which case, the title should be redirected) or more (in which case, disambiguate) specific years or events. This subject probably fails WP:NLIST as trivial.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 22:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * See my comment above for samples of sources using the exact term for multiple specific years. Thryduulf (talk) 02:16, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: There's a few sources for the term, but this from the Wall Street Journal says For Britain, 2022 will be remembered as the year of three prime ministers. This is Paul (talk) 01:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Setindexify (drafted) with scope of years that have been called this, not just any year where it's happened. Australia 2013 and UK 2022 are supported by multiple reliable sources. UK 1868 and Croatia 2016 are a bit more tenuous, but I think fine to include if there's gonna be a list either way (and a list of 2 would be fine here, so). Ironically, cannot find any sources for the UK in 1827. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 02:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the sort of thing I was thinking about when suggesting a disambig above. I endorse the draft. Thryduulf (talk) 12:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also added 1941 in Australia and 1999 in Russia with sources. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Setindexify as has been so fabulously drafted.  J947  † edits 01:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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NickToons (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 21:30, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="NickToons (film)">NickToons (film) → Jared and Jerusha Hess (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Nicktoons (film)">Nicktoons (film) → Nickelodeon Movies (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I would like this redirect deleted because there was no official announcement about the Nicktoons film. 99.209.40.250 (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting in order to allow for a full 7 days with the tag on before closure, despite the current consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm almost positive the Nicktoons film was just a rumor that spread like wildfire, considering it got leaked back in 2017? 2018? and we haven't heard so much as a peep from Paramount or Nickelodeon about it. MightyArms (talk) 18:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The redirect was not tagged for RfD. Done now. Also bundled Nicktoons (film) which is also an article-turned-redirect whose target also doesn't mention the movie. Jay  💬 15:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both This was all based on one article in the PMC publications back in 2016. Nothing has been heard since, Viacom has merged with CBS, there have been many executive shifts in six years, and any signs this film would actually hit a theater screen with the existence of Paramount+ have long disappeared. In the end, this was a desperate attempt at a spec script that was never fully-formed, and all additional details since have been the invention of people who need to go on a foliage drive.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Roads and Highways
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Road transport. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:25, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Roads and Highways → Road (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:XY: Highway is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 17:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:36, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of roads and highways. These are distinct topics, redirecting to one or the other would cause surprise. The list appears to serve both purposes. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  18:19, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete the average reader would probably want information about road and highways in general not a list that lists a few roads/highways plus WP:XY. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:39, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per El cid, the first line of that article has links to Road and Highway for anyone who wants to read those articles and a hatnote to the more general Road transport article would also be appropriate (we don't appear to have a general Road transport infrastructure article). Thryduulf (talk) 19:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Road transport. This probably isn't an implausible search term. I feel this article serves as a better target given it has more substantive content. A reader might not necessarily be looking for a list. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * P.S. I've added a link to the list to Road transport's "See also." Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 06:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: One last try for a firmer consensus between the suggested retargeting solutions. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Road transport. Seems more useful than a list article. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 01:44, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Road transport. BlackholeWA (talk) 15:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Road transport, though El cid's proposal would be my second option. Roads and highways (especially highways) are used for transport. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Dictator of Belarus
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 20:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Dictator of Belarus → Alexander Lukashenko (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Procedural nomination for a deletion request originally filed at AfD by. Personally, I suspect that this falls under WP:RNEUTRAL, but will leave it to others to discuss. signed,Rosguill talk 19:41, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as political commentary/NPOV violation. OhNo itsJamie Talk 20:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL. From the lead of the target article Thryduulf (talk) 21:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep RNEUTRAL, as there hasn't been a recognized election in decades.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 22:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've added an old rfd list of several related RfDs and an AfD. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 03:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Leaning keep per comments above regarding the subject's self-identification as a dictator, and meeting the definition of the term. BD2412  T 05:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: WP:RNEUTRAL gives latitude for redirects like this to exist, even if Lukashenko did not self-identify as a dictator, but with his self-identification as one, I think the argument to keep is strengthened. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 15:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Redirects with disambiguators missing ")"
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The crux of the discussion was whether or not this type of redirect provides value to our readers. Those suggesting they be kept point to specific examples where they are used as part of external links. Those suggesting they be deleted note there are ways the software currently helps those who might arrive at a URL without a closing ) and that this practice done on a large scale would create issues. Ultimately there are no policies or guidelines which suggest one side or the other deserves extra weight and so it comes down to whether there is a consensus among participating editors. Given the number of editors who participated we have (barely) reached a consensus that these should be deleted. Barkeep49 (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to missing the right parentheses. None of these redirects have incoming links in the article space, and their properly disambiguated titles exist. Also, please see User:Gurch/Reports/Missing ")" for what seems to be precedence per the sea of deleted titles. Also, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 20. Steel1943  (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <span id="Bearpen Mountain (Greene County, New York">Bearpen Mountain (Greene County, New York → Bearpen Mountain (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Bijan (designer">Bijan (designer → Bijan (designer) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Born to Kill (CSI: Miami episode">Born to Kill (CSI: Miami episode → CSI: Miami (season 5) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Break On Through (To the Other Side">Break On Through (To the Other Side → Break On Through (To the Other Side) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brian Cox (physicist">Brian Cox (physicist → Brian Cox (physicist) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Britannia (board game">Britannia (board game → Britannia (board game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Burn (Scotland">Burn (Scotland → Burn (landform) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Carcassonne (board game">Carcassonne (board game → Carcassonne (board game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Children's Medical Center (Dallas">Children's Medical Center (Dallas → Children's Medical Center Dallas (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cluster (computing">Cluster (computing → Computer cluster (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Commander in Chief (TV series">Commander in Chief (TV series → Commander in Chief (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Commodore (rank">Commodore (rank → Commodore (rank) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Composition (number theory">Composition (number theory → Composition (combinatorics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dartmoor (HM Prison">Dartmoor (HM Prison → HM Prison Dartmoor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Democratic Party (United States">Democratic Party (United States → Democratic Party (United States) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Don't Panic (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy">Don't Panic (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy → Phrases from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Doomsday (comics">Doomsday (comics → Doomsday (DC Comics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Edd (Ed, Edd, n Eddy">Edd (Ed, Edd, n Eddy → List of Ed, Edd n Eddy characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Escapades (Hungry Kids of Hungary album">Escapades (Hungry Kids of Hungary album → Escapades (Hungry Kids of Hungary album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Eyebeam (comic">Eyebeam (comic → Eyebeam (comic strip) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Fat Bastard (Austin Powers Character">Fat Bastard (Austin Powers Character → Fat Bastard (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Forever Yours (Alex Day song">Forever Yours (Alex Day song → Forever Yours (Alex Day song) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Gap (clothing retailer">Gap (clothing retailer → Gap Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Georgia (U.S. state">Georgia (U.S. state → Georgia (U.S. state) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Go (board game">Go (board game → Go (game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Heaven's Gate (religious group">Heaven's Gate (religious group → Heaven's Gate (religious group) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="How I Feel (song by Kelly Clarkson">How I Feel (song by Kelly Clarkson → My December (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Jenny (867-5309">Jenny (867-5309 → 867-5309/Jenny (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="John Kelly (U.S. politician">John Kelly (U.S. politician → John Kelly (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Join (SQL">Join (SQL → Join (SQL) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Joseph Ashton (actor">Joseph Ashton (actor → Joseph Ashton (actor) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kayla Huntington (Desperate Housewives character">Kayla Huntington (Desperate Housewives character → List of Desperate Housewives characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kenneth Clark (psychologist">Kenneth Clark (psychologist → Kenneth and Mamie Clark (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="La Bamba (film">La Bamba (film → La Bamba (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Lost (TV series">Lost (TV series → Lost (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MOD and TOD (video format">MOD and TOD (video format → MOD and TOD (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Monster House (2006 film">Monster House (2006 film → Monster House (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mork (file format">Mork (file format → Mork (file format) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mothra (web browser">Mothra (web browser → List of Plan 9 applications (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mungo Park (explorer">Mungo Park (explorer → Mungo Park (explorer) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Nerds (candy">Nerds (candy → Nerds (candy) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Progress (philosophy">Progress (philosophy → Progress (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Quail Valley (Missouri City, Texas">Quail Valley (Missouri City, Texas → Quail Valley (Missouri City, Texas) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Race (classification of human beings">Race (classification of human beings → Race (human categorization) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Random Virus (Ace Lightning">Random Virus (Ace Lightning → List of Ace Lightning characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ray tracing (graphics">Ray tracing (graphics → Ray tracing (graphics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Rhinoceros (play">Rhinoceros (play → Rhinoceros (play) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ruby (programming language">Ruby (programming language → Ruby (programming language) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Seal (Chinese">Seal (Chinese → Seal (East Asia) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Shocker (hand gesture">Shocker (hand gesture → Shocker (gesture) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Skynet (Terminator">Skynet (Terminator → Skynet (Terminator) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Smoke (Mortal Kombat character">Smoke (Mortal Kombat character → Smoke (Mortal Kombat) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Buddha of Suburbia (novel">The Buddha of Suburbia (novel → The Buddha of Suburbia (novel) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Centurions (TV series">The Centurions (TV series → The Centurions (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Doors (film">The Doors (film → The Doors (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Oregon Trail (video game">The Oregon Trail (video game → Oregon Trail (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Phantom (game system">The Phantom (game system → Phantom Entertainment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Pianist (memoir">The Pianist (memoir → The Pianist (memoir) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Producers (1968 film">The Producers (1968 film → The Producers (1967 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Trap (television documentary series">The Trap (television documentary series → The Trap (British TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Wang (surname">Wang (surname → Wang (surname) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Up (2009 film">Up (2009 film → Up (2009 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete all per WP:RDAB due to missing the right parentheses. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 19:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I see the redirect was created 13 years ago and maybe the problem this was supposed to solve has been dealt with another way.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment refers to Doomsday (comics unless otherwise specified. Steel1943  (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What's to discuss? I'm confused; what's the issue with the redirect?  Leaving off the closing parenthesis is a fairly common typo but we all know what someone who typed that was searching for.  Rogue 9 (talk) 19:55, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment refers to Heaven's Gate (religious group unless otherwise specified. Steel1943  (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ping current participants now that the respective discussions have been merged. Steel1943  (talk) 20:33, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to deletion. From my notes when creating the redirect for Lost, I believe the problem was 2009's MSN Messenger automatic URL parsing algorithm would interpret the closing bracket/parenthesis as a punctuation part of the message instead of part of the URL. So if you were to send a non percent encoded URL e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series) as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series) and the link would not work. MSN Messenger is long dead, however I expected despite the popularity of Wikipedia, some software still does that since ultimately interpreting punctuation characters at the end of a URL always has some imprecision. For example, you probably don't want your software interpret https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series), as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series),, even the Wikimedia algorithm does not. You could do more sophisticated URL parsing e.g. looking for opening brackets in the URL or in the text at the cost of more complexity so not all software is going to do that. But I accept it doesn't really make much sense to have a bunch of redirects for when someone happened to create one and there's no realistic chance we're going to get consensus to mass create them nor to handle it in software, so just deleting them probably makes sense. Nil Einne (talk) 21:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep all as WP:Redirects are cheap and some can be easily made misspellings where someone fails to close the parentheses. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:22, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The negligable value of a handful of redirects having an alternative "no closing parenthesis" edition, compared to the zillions that do not have this convenience feature, is more than countered by having a second search result for these redirects confusingly show up in an autocomplete search. Just because Wikipedia can have spinach in its teeth doesn't mean it should have spinach in its teeth, no matter how cheap that spinach is. --NapoliRoma (talk) 23:13, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * But more... R. S. Shaw notes below that this is, in at least some cases, not just a simple typo, but an accommodation of a misfeature in some Markdown parsers. I'd still argue that making Wikipedia ugly to accommodate what is essentially an unfixed bug in someone else's software is bad precedent.  And as Steel1943 notes, this was the cpnclusion of an identical previous discussion.--NapoliRoma (talk) 15:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all to avoid setting a precedent that would allow for millions of new minimally-useful redirects. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom and all "delete" !voters above. These just seem like search bar clutter-why have these when the correctly formatted versions exist? Also, I haven't checked through all of these; but it seems a bunch were made many years earlier after their respective articles for reasons like alternative spellings, how the subjects were written in newspapers in ways that may or may not warrant a mention, to make way for moves, and for technical reasons that were since resolved; and plus I need to go to bed tonight before I do any more investigation! Regards, SONIC 678 05:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep most that would be useful. Britannia (board game for example is directly linked to by important urls on board game websites. To remove the redirect would be to remove the link. The other dubious ones could go. Would be important to determine "what links there", though, I imagine. Page views, for example. KingAntenor (talk) 05:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all. There's a reason this form of redirect exists.  I looked at the one I created and the edit summary brought it all back: redir broken url usage.  There is a widely used markup language called Markdown.  It's a bit like wikitext but much simpler, and various versions of it are used on zillions of sites, including on Reddit and StackOverflow/StackExchange.  The relevant thing here is that the way one specifies a link (display text & URL) is   (the wikitext near equivalent being  ).  There's a common problem for people posting on such sites when they want to link to some Wikipedia articles,  like It (novel).  The user normally simply pastes in the URL, here  , which ends up like:  .  Note the last two characters.  Many Markdown parsers are relatively simple and will take the first parenthesis after the start of the URL as the Markdown closing character of the URL of the link.  Hence there are many URL references to WP articles out there which are missing the trailing parenthesis like all the ones listed above.  Note that this not a typical typo: the user typed the correct characters of the syntax and pasted the correct URL, but didn't know or didn't remember to "correct" the last character of the URL to be "%29" instead of ")". --R. S. Shaw (talk) 06:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: For what it's worth, in Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 20, which resulted in a "delete" consensus, the main argument there for deletion was essentially that Wikipedia should not accommodate linking mistakes that occur on third party web sites at the expense of having plausible titles, which I agree with. If Wikipedia accommodated every linking mistake that occurs on third party web sites, there would be figurative tons of nonsensically titled redirects. Steel1943  (talk) 09:22, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That RfD discussion did have have all 4 of its votes for delete, but the reasons given varied; I only saw one that said we shouldn't "accommodate other websites' every shortcoming". Another indicated they'd keep such redirects if, on a case-by-case basis, "it can be shown that they are genuinely useful". --R. S. Shaw (talk) 18:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Stats: I looked at usage stats for maybe half of the proposed deletion redirects, and found that all of those had some usage in the past year. Some had a bit surprising amount of usage.  Here are the top 7 of the ones I looked at:
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Redirect !! Hits in past year
 * Brian Cox (physicist || 478
 * Georgia (U.S. state || 433
 * Heaven's Gate (religious group || 1495
 * Join (SQL || 921
 * Lost (TV series || 593
 * Ray tracing (graphics || 614
 * Shocker (hand gesture || 10,383
 * }
 * Removing redirects like these will inconvenience thousands of readers each year, dissuading some of them from reading a Wikipedia article. In return, what does WP get?, a tiny bit of space saved and a slightly tidier set of namespace entries.  That might be nice (a few editors wouldn't have to think about or investigate cleaning them up, for instance), but I don't feel that warrants doing such a disservice to would-be Wikipedia readers.  I'm not saying that no such redirect should be deleted, but I think deleting one should not be done without balancing it against actual service to users.  However, I very much would be in a favor of a policy to prevent mass creations of such redirects; there are occasional editors who get bad ideas like that into their heads. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Since there's a legitimate problem, and this is a legitimate workaround, if the result is "keep", I propose (in all seriousness) introducing a new redir template along the lines of "R to support incoming links (from a Markdown site" to make it clearer what's being addressed.--NapoliRoma (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * R from external link was created for this very purpose. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thanks. NapoliRoma (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * See Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 31. I don't think that RCAT template should exist now that I know it does. Steel1943  (talk) 20:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Shocker (hand gesture || 10,383
 * }
 * Removing redirects like these will inconvenience thousands of readers each year, dissuading some of them from reading a Wikipedia article. In return, what does WP get?, a tiny bit of space saved and a slightly tidier set of namespace entries.  That might be nice (a few editors wouldn't have to think about or investigate cleaning them up, for instance), but I don't feel that warrants doing such a disservice to would-be Wikipedia readers.  I'm not saying that no such redirect should be deleted, but I think deleting one should not be done without balancing it against actual service to users.  However, I very much would be in a favor of a policy to prevent mass creations of such redirects; there are occasional editors who get bad ideas like that into their heads. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Since there's a legitimate problem, and this is a legitimate workaround, if the result is "keep", I propose (in all seriousness) introducing a new redir template along the lines of "R to support incoming links (from a Markdown site" to make it clearer what's being addressed.--NapoliRoma (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * R from external link was created for this very purpose. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thanks. NapoliRoma (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * See Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 31. I don't think that RCAT template should exist now that I know it does. Steel1943  (talk) 20:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all Utterly pointless and might as well be deleted now that someone has bothered to round them up.★Trekker (talk) 11:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all, utterly pointless and per WP:RDAB. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Typos clutter autocomplete suggestions in CirrusSearch and Visual Editor, and conceal wikilinks that need repair. In this case with the missing ) at the end, when typing in CirrusSearch, the redirect is suggested in spot #1, and the actual article is suggested in spot #2, which I don't think is ideal. – Novem Linguae (talk) 00:55, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all Creating all sorts of variants is silly, if Markdown has a compatibility issue either 1) let Markdown solve it, or 2)Solve on our side with some general rule (unless creating a zillion ")"-less redirects seems logical to anyone) - Nabla (talk) 02:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Wikipedia exists for the readers. If these help people to find the article they are looking for, and don't seem to be causing any harm, they should be kept. If there's some technical way these can be rendered unnecessary then they can be deleted. A7V2 (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete due malformed modifiers -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:51, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I created Up (2009 film rather than edit a Teahouse archive, one reason being I'm editing another editor's reply, though I edit Teahouse archives all the time in case someone wants to click on a link that is no longer valid because the question was archived. I went ahead and edit the archive in question so the link would work anyway.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Come on, people, deleting a redirect that gets 10,000 uses a year is insane! Re-evaluate your !vote. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 01:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all please. GoodDay (talk) 04:08, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per R. S. Shaw's excellent explanation. These redirects are at worst harmless, and it has been shown how they are useful. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all, helpful and harmless; demonstrably not utterly pointless. Agreed that there are better methods to handle this, but that isn't something which can be created through RfD. This isn't a huge problem, given lightbulbs at e.g. Eddie Long (ice hockey, but these redirects are less of a problem.  J947  † edits 01:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all and tag with R from external link to show purpose. Longterm, implement a technical solution for this (maybe: if a page doesn't exist, before returning this error, look for the same page but with a closing parenthesis and return that). I notice that our search autocompletes "Up (2009 film)" before "Up (2009 film"; is there a way that we can get CirrusSearch to do that too? (Better yet, keep these out of the search results, but that seems harder.) ―Toby Bartels (talk) 10:24, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * See Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 31. I don't think that RCAT template should exist now that I know it does. (Repeat comment from earlier in the discussion, but it applies here as well.) Steel1943  (talk) 20:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. —  Paper Luigi  T • C 19:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all as Redirects are cheap. The one I created was because of a Markdown issue, people accidentally do this all the time on Reddit in particular. If Mediawiki learns how to autoadd closing parentheses, this will resolve the issue to where these can be deleted, but until then, it makes sense to keep. --TIB (talk) 00:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. It is harmful to the encyclopedia to send the signal that we are willing to be lackadaisical about obvious errors. BD2412  T 06:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all We already have a system to point people in the right place that covers every article with parenthesis instead of needing to create a redirect for each one. If you visit "Foo (computing", it says, "Did you mean: Foo (computing)?". Legoktm (talk) 02:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep at least Shocker (hand gesture Say everyone going to Shocker_(hand_gesture (rounding down to 10000) takes a very quick 0.5 seconds to click the link. That would be around ~1.38 hours per year, which I feel is enough. By my count (might be slightly inaccurate) there are 63 articles and 39 responses, so unless people are spending more than an hour to comment, the maintenance cost of keeping at least this specific article is less than the value of keeping it.  AltoStev  ( talk ) 23:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Let us do disambiguation and redirecting correctly and consistently and leave it to others how to best tap into that resource. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 10:30, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all per J947, R.S.Shaw, A7V2, et al. Fixing external errors in this manner costs us essentially nothing but significantly helps a large number of readers. Allowing readers to find the content they are looking for is equally as much our job as Wikipedians as writing that content in the first place. So I can see no justification at all for forcing people to jump through one or more hoops (note that whehter you get the "did you mean" depends on multiple factors that are outside of our control, it's not always obvious). Thryduulf (talk) 11:36, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep all per R.S. Shaw. At worst harmless, and at best would actively impede linking and navigation from some very popular websites. Apparently, despite updating to New Reddit in the last couple of years, links with concluding parentheses are still an issue that requires special formatting to avoid. While obviously, not every single possible variation of this should be created, I don't see the harm in individual creations where such external links exist. Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per Legoktm and BD2412. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 18:51, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Two-way communiation
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 19:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Two-way communiation → Two-way (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as an unlikely misspelling, or retarget to Two-way communication. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:32, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely misspelling. Tea2min (talk) 19:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely misspelling -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that the redirect is an unlikely misspelling and it can be eliminated as basic housekeeping. --- <b style="color:#C71585"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 02:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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Dolphin OS
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Foreign language redirects to Hungary
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Thomas Louis Green
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 * The result of the discussion was Close - converted into article.   Natg 19 (talk) 23:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thomas Louis Green → Thomas Green (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of the articles about Tom/Thomas/Tommy Green/Greene mention "Louis", so if this a person then Enwiki has nothing about him under this name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Was mentioned in the dab page as an external link (Special:Diff/36420409) but no longer does. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:40, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Hope it's OK but I created an article for him. JASpencer (talk) 21:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Unnmentioned examples of greetings
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Who is a Hindu: Hindu revivalist views of Animism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and other offshoots of Hinduism
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HUngary
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  BD2412  T 06:06, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * HUngary → Hungary (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. There is no particular reason why this typo is any more plausible or likely as a search term than any other. Thryduulf (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:48, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * DElete unless an affinity can be shown. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 07:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * DElete per nom. I'm fairly sure the search bar can correct errors like this anyway (even tho I do sometimes accidentally capitalize the first 2 letters of a word). ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * DElete We should let the search bar do its job. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * KEep because views. From a cursory look they look to be old-link or genuine-misspelling –related rather than search-result–related.  J947  † edits 01:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Seems rather historic, created back in late 2005. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's a bit useless and was obviously created in error. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Vengria
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Legoktm (talk) 02:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Vengria → Hungary (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This was created with the comment that it was a "rare exonym for Hungary", but it's not mentioned at the target. All the results in the article namespace are for the now-dead vengria.ru and used to verify settlements in Russia and Hungary being twinned with one another. There is one relevant hit in talk space - an unsourced comment from 2010 by Tamfang reading. I can find no uses in reliable sources on Google either. Thryduulf (talk) 17:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hm, where was that? —Tamfang (talk) 17:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Talk:List of alternative country names. I meant to link that in my nomination, sorry. Thryduulf (talk) 18:26, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging again, as the author of the only mention of the term in enwiki.  Jay  💬 18:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging me for what, my opinion on deletion? I imagine that few will go looking for Vengria in English, so weak delete.  If the question is source, apparently I transliterated ru:Венгрия from the article – anglicizing latinizing slightly from the stricter Vengrija, by analogy with many other –ia = –ия names, because I'm not interested in divergent spellings of obvious cognates.  (On lists of exonyms, I am deletionist.) —Tamfang (talk) 22:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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G'mornin
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Good morning.  Jay  💬 18:52, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * G'mornin → Greeting (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target page. Bringing it here since I was considering retargeting it to Good morning, but that page is a disambiguation page with no title matches for "G'morning", so it could be considered unhelpful if the redirect targeted that page. Steel1943 (talk) 17:13, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The primary topic for "G'morning" is the greeting "good morning", and the DAB links to the Wiktionary entry, as well as to any number of titles that could be misheard or misremembered as "G'morning", so retarget to DAB. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 08:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to DAB per Tamzin. Clearly the primary topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:17, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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List of words for hello
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Kiss hello
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Esposimi/WXRK
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . WP:CSD G6: clearly created in error.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 02:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Esposimi/WXRK">Esposimi/WXRK → WINS-FM (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Esposimi/WNOW-FM">Esposimi/WNOW-FM → WOSF (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This odd redirect seems like a remnant of a page move that went awry, and is unlikely to be of any actual use.  WC  Quidditch  ☎   ✎  11:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Inplausible search term plus it might be a WP:XY situation. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:49, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I’m also including Esposimi/WNOW-FM into the nomination. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Guo Ping
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 03:27, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Guo Ping → Guo Pingtan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The person's name was incorrect and I moved the article to the correct name. The redirect should be deleted. Johnj1995 (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. There are several mentions of Guo Ping in different wiki articles but they are just mostly listings or mentions in references. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:50, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Too generic of a term. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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June Offensive
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:27, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * June Offensive → Kerensky offensive (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The target article, Kerensky offensive, occurred mainly in July 1917, not June. Natg 19 (talk) 00:23, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. There have been tons of military offensives in June, humans being quite violent and disputatious, and no one in particular sticks out.  Certainly not one in July.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC) Keep per TartarTorte.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 14:26, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: While this took place in July on the Gregorian calendar, Russia was still using the Old Style dates until 1918, which means in Russia this offensive largely did take place in June. Many Russian language sources for this conflict refer to it by the name Июньское наступление of which the first word means June (see the declensions at июньский) and it essentially translated to "June Conflict". The Russian term used for July Conflict is used for a variety of different conflicts. I can't find a good citation that uses the Russian term in the article for the conflict. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per TartarTorte. "June Offensive" is actually the article title on ru-wiki. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:07, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tartar and Presidentman. A Google search for that exact term indicates that term is still used for the revolution, regardless of which calendar one's using as their template. Seed  of  コスモ  (alternative account of Sonic678) 21:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Great Anabyng
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:39, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Great Anabyng → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:33, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Eiryn Muss
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:39, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Eiryn Muss → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Do note that it is mentioned in "Muss" dab page which then points back to the target article -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:32, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Faelamor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:39, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Faelamor → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Yalkara
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Yalkara → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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